Diaco Hired as Purdue DC

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Seriously, Bob Diaco was in charge of recruiting, within the program. Kelly gives his staff autonomy for their responsibilities. This was clearly the case. Toward the end, the truth be told, I think Kelly overrode Diaco on a few. So the tide was moving, and BVG just came in and gave a face to the opposite sort of philosophy in recruiting, and on defense. So that made it more pronounced.

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Your speculation is rampant: Bob Diaco was in charge of recruiting, within the program. Kelly gives his staff autonomy for their responsibilities. This was clearly the case.

It amazes me that what people digest MUST be the truth. For all I know, you could be right, but let's take a realistic look at your statements-somewhat irrational, eh? A college coach may give an aqssistant autonomy but not give complete control to a subordinate. Delegation is a great concept, but the man with the big fuzzy nutz still has to make the final call.

I think the last time I actually believed a college coach passed that type of control to an assistant was the Weiss-Tenuta clusterf@ck. That went over well. I believe that's the typical outcome when that type of control is given to a subordinate- reading the help wanted ads.

Not saying this doesn't happen, but i seriously doubt that happened with Kelly. IMO, a successful coach does not chance that success on the complete decisions of someone else not in the drivers seat.


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Re: Kelly/ Diaco and recruiting for the defensive side of the ball...

Yes "the buck stops at the HCs desk", but that's not what successful athletic executives do. The real world "social dynamic", even looked at pragmatically, is far more complex than this.

Kelly does not want to have to coach the entire team and knows that he cannot anyway and hope to win many games --- so he hires people whom he hopes and really good at their parts of the job. This is especially true when hiring coordinators.

Kelly misfired on his first OC and was happy to see him go. He then went conservative and picked someone whom he absolutely felt he understood. What this tells us is that the OC DOES have a lot of autonomy. THAT alone should tell us that the DC does too.

And, since Kelly really wants to concentrate on offense, "our" DC undoubtedly has more. So Coach goes out to hire a DC. The real world is not that Diaco tells Kelly what Kelly already thinks about defense and in detail, but tells Kelly what DIACO thinks about defense and in detail. Kelly likes Bob and takes a chance.

Part of what Diaco tells Kelly are his ideas about recruiting TO his desired system. Kelly is not going to suddenly obstruct his DC after hiring him and his system. There is doubtless a LOT of negotiating when it comes to who's on the war room board.

I believe that Coach caved into Bobby's desires on player measure-ables most of the time --- as I'm sure Beamer does with Foster. etc etc. I believe that I'm not blowing smoke here because Kelly caved into him on the biggest thing in ND defensive football -- BEND don't BREAK. Kelly didn't want that. HE WANTED THE BALL. But, you could see in the Presscons, Kelly would sigh at the question of Bend don't Break, and say "that's who we are."

I have no surprise at all if Van Gorder shakes a whole lot of things up, including rigidity about "player body plans." I like Diaco as a sort of authentic slightly offcenter good guy, but I think we'll ultimately be more creative, flexible, and develop more on-field leadership in the end under someone else. As I've said elsewhere on IE, I believe that it's harder to grow leadership inside a Clock.
 

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Kelly misfired on his first OC and was happy to see him go. He then went conservative and picked someone whom he absolutely felt he understood. What this tells us is that the OC DOES have a lot of autonomy. THAT alone should tell us that the DC does too.

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I have no surprise at all if Van Gorder shakes a whole lot of things up, including rigidity about "player body plans." I like Diaco as a sort of authentic slightly offcenter good guy, but I think we'll ultimately be more creative, flexible, and develop more on-field leadership in the end under someone else. As I've said elsewhere on IE, I believe that it's harder to grow leadership inside a Clock.

For all the talk about Kelly's "offense" at Cincy, it's pretty clear at this point that his strong suit is as a program CEO, not as schematic savant. That means, by definition, his coordinators have a lot of influence on system/play-calling, and, one would think, on recruiting the type of athletes who'll best fit that system. So if the DC loves his linebackers big and tall, that's what you go and get. The number of people we offered after Diaco left speaks volumes about the kinds of kids he didn't offer.
But. Diaco had a lot of strengths and let's not forget how good a coach he wound up being (especially, oddly enough, in 2012 when he had a bunch of players from the previous regime hitting their peaks coupled with some of his guys learning fast). And we really don't know how BVG will pan out yet. It's just too early.
But I agree a change was needed. Diaco had probably outgrown the job (or felt he did) and something was missing this year on the chemistry front. Hopefully BVG brings a new energy and our defense grows a lot. Lord knows they'll need to.
 
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And that's where all of us on the outside end up doing-believing our perceived truths and ultimately, wondering if we are correct.

Usually we do swimmingly, Fbolt. In fact, I have invited you to be on the board of my upcoming successful avatar campaign. But I have to say, I have a problem with your "I believe" quote of OMM. Those are your words not his. You talk about wishing to attend UND, but your quote, if part of an academic assignment, would get reviewed for academic honesty.

By cutting Mike's words to one and a half, from his original quote you changed everything about the word and a half you left. You took a complex statement about his view of the coaching staff's interaction, which he is able to make a pretty educated guess upon, and you mitigated it to him taking a flier, throwing. It isn't right to take someone's words and so twist them. You took a specific statement written in the past tense about the state of affairs at a specific time and turned part of two words into an open-ended statement of blind trust. Why? Because it didn't support your point?

All I was expressing was a logical explanation as to how things could have happened, without Kelly taking the angst now being expressed toward Diaco. Of course you are right; no one that wasn't there knows exactly what happened. I don't know much, except there are about a million stories about prospective recruits one coach or another wanted to get a good look that were nixed. There are stories about Bob Diaco's flexibility, or lack thereof. There are even stories of Bob Elliott's frustration at having to deal with the situation. That is something!

Last year as the contract extension negotiations drug on, there were stories leaked. Supposedly from an assistant coach source. Really bad stories about Kelly, that showed him in a poor light. The key part or central focus of all of that is that he wanted a really low buyout for his contract. So I took it all with a grain of salt. Any contract written these days for a successful head coach is going to be about whether the buyout is ridiculously high, or prohibitively high. Anyone wants this coach, let them pay for him; so I took all that with a grain of salt. I took many of the Diaco stories with a grain of salt, also.

Now, I will be honest I sat at a good seat to get a view of Bob Diaco. Not the impressive imagery, the supercharged vocabulary, or the flawless delivery. The real guy. In '12 they showed tape inside the locker at half time and after the game. One week they caught Bob talking about how his defense was flying around like Freddy Krueger out there. It was published in a video on UND.com. Do you remember seeing it? Shortly afterword, at a press conference Bob was directly asked about the incident. Everyone loved the speech. Bob denied it. Vehemently, multiple times. Said it never happened. Someone, piped up when he was standing there lying, that it was on UND.com, and everyone had seen it.

He was made to understand that it was out there and every one had seen it. They tried telling him they loved it but he wasn't listening. Instead, all he could say was what a shame it was that coach player interaction couldn't be kept private. That week there was hell to pay at Black Rock. And here is a significant point. Kelly started going in to his we are the team and they are the fans, routine, right at that time. I don't disagree that I am not part of the greater ND effort, and therefore don't have a right to be treated like an insider, or part of the team. But I do buy the tickets. So just don't shovel shit in my boot and call it sunshine.

All Bob had to do was from the very first say, "Interaction between coaches and players on our team is a very private thing." He could have ended with a no comment, or an I will not discuss. And to tie the whole thing up, I had friends from Cinci that warned me of a number of things about Bob Diaco, and that was one. Actually two of those behaviors are encompassed within what was described to me as a general petulance.

Here is what I have heard. After '12 Bob got paid more to stay. But he didn't have any job offers so he wasn't going to leave. This year he had his first job offer and he left. Before he left things got heated in some areas. One was recruiting. Related to the number of offers made. There were some coaches who felt certain players were never going to come to ND, and recruiting time could be spent "casting a wider net." There were a few kids who a position coach, or a recruiter found in their area that were wanted, but their pursuit was nixed. Kelly turned thumbs up on a couple, and if I remember correctly Drue Tranquill was one. Why did Kelly have to override on any unless someone below him had absolute authority to decide?
 
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I mostly agree. But to me, the biggest problem was not Diaco insisting on measuables, it was his refusal to go to plan B when plan A was not going to happen. Why let the Austin Hoopers of the world walk? How do you possibly explain slow playing Drue Tranquil based on measurables?

There are a lot of kids who meet the measurables, for every Tuitt, there are a lot of Matsukas and Hounshells. And you have to set priorities. Most people think the correct way to set priorities is to say, I'll take the kids with the highest potential, regardless of measurables. But its not like that is fool proof. A smaller kid who was highly-rated, like Tyler Stockton, doesn't give you much if he doesn't pan out.

If you stick with measurables, on the other hand, at least you'll always end up with some beef. Even John Turner made a couple of vital special team tackles.

From the Drue thread, we have DN weighing in. This fits quite neatly with OMM, and dshans(???) points. So we have heard from the triumvirate.

Seriously I repped DN's original post, because I think he hit the nail on the head.

My last post was the lay out of my feelings on Bob Diaco. Please read it as I was a bit prejudice against him before he started. Consequently, I began to notice negatives more and more. The bottom of any hope of objectivity with Diaco fell out with "Kreugergate." I kept my head down and just watched. But I heard more and more things from different sources that indicated conflict, and process control issues.

I have to be mindful of some people that have made comments that I have heard, but when you hear something from an NFL organization, half way across the country, that has details that sound accurate, more so than some of the rumors coming out of the bend. You have to go with it.

The best thing about DN and OMM's read is that there is no blame involved. All Bob D needs is a few more years of experience, and he needs the experience of head coach.

In conclusion, it is no misstate that his UCONN start has played out with this Ernest Jones issue. The whole story, from its public inception to its conclusion speaks of the kind of internal control problems that might come up with a style of management dictated by the persona we have observed at ND. Hopefully he will he (Bob D) will learn from this. I would love nothing more than to see Chuck Martin and Bob Diaco succeed, and start a healthy "Kelly Koaching Tree!"
 

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Analyzing Bob Diaco and the uphill climb at UConn | CollegeFootballTalk

Kevin Ollie succeeded in pulling off an improbable run to a national championship last night for UConn basketball, but on the gridiron Bob Diaco has a much steeper climb just to get the Huskies back to respectability.

Diaco, who took over the program in December after spending the last four seasons as Notre Dame’s defensive coordinator, is tasked with the challenge of getting a team that floundered to a 13-23 record after longtime coach Randy Edsall left for Maryland. UConn football is still in its relative infancy, only being revived at the Division I level in 2000.

But Edsall showed winning in Storrs isn’t impossible — from 2007-2010, UConn won 33 games and made an appearance in the Fiesta Bowl — though it certainly is difficult. Connecticut and the Northeast aren’t fertile recruiting grounds, and that shows in UConn’s recruiting class rankings in the Rivals era:

2002: No. 104
2003: 88
2004: 99
2005: 80
2006: 86
2007: 65
2008: 71
2009: 76
2010: 84
2011: 102
2012: 78
2013: 65
2014: 117
Average ranking: 85.77

In 2014, the state of Connecticut produced just two three-star recruits (who didn’t sign with UConn). Massachusetts offers some more fertile recruiting territory, though Diaco will have to pry the state’s top players away from Boston College (which signed six of Massachusetts’ top 10 players in 2014).

But Diaco does have good recruiting connections in the Northeast and is a native of the talent-rich state of New Jersey. While at Notre Dame, Diaco signed a number of highly-recruited players from the area he’ll have to hit hard at UConn:

New Jersey: ATH Rashad Kinlaw (3 stars), S Elijah Shumate (4 stars), WR Bennett Jackson (3 stars)
New York: DL Jarron Jones (4 stars), DE Ishaq Williams (5 stars)
Massachusetts: OL John Montelus (4 stars)

Not all these guys panned out — Kinlaw, for one, was just kicked off Notre Dame’s football team last week — but Jackson was a two-year starter and senior captain as a cornerback, while Jones and Williams are likely starters on this year’s Irish squad.

Notre Dame, of course, is an easier sell to recruits that UConn. But plenty of Irish players loved playing for Diaco, raving about his energy on the practice field and enthusiasm for player development.

It’ll take a few years to find out if Chef Diaco’s cake at UConn tastes good (seriously, he loves that cake analogy). But if he can start pulling talent from the areas he did while at Notre Dame, he’ll at least give his proud basketball school some hope on the football field.
 

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Diaco using some daytime television to help recruiting?
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Hey ND fans your old D coordinator is cooking on TV here in Connecticut! Haha what can't he do! Lol <a href="http://t.co/WIcky4T12T">pic.twitter.com/WIcky4T12T</a></p>— christine golic (@NDmom) <a href="https://twitter.com/NDmom/statuses/476815777098915842">June 11, 2014</a></blockquote>
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I know Kliff at TTU has had luck with the moms, but I'm not sure this is how he's doing it...
 

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Diaco using some daytime television to help recruiting?
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Hey ND fans your old D coordinator is cooking on TV here in Connecticut! Haha what can't he do! Lol <a href="http://t.co/WIcky4T12T">pic.twitter.com/WIcky4T12T</a></p>— christine golic (@NDmom) <a href="https://twitter.com/NDmom/statuses/476815777098915842">June 11, 2014</a></blockquote>
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I know Kliff at TTU has had luck with the moms, but I'm not sure this is how he's doing it...

Shutdown Navy on a consistent basis?
 

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Hopefully BVG can cook up a recipe for consistent success against the option.

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Tuesday commit recap: Ohio State makes the right call on Conner
Diaco’s sleeper

We like the pickup by UConn in Marshe Terry out of New Jersey. He’s a safety that is only rated as a low three-star on 247Sports so we’re acknowledging that the pickup is a projection by the UConn staff but we don’t think it’s a reach.

Terry has outstanding size at around 6-foot-4, you can see on film that his body has already begun to transform from his sophomore to junior seasons and he has great ball skills, doubling as a wide receiver. New UConn head coach and former Notre Dame defensive coordinator Bob Diaco has a chance to really mold Terry into a unique player at safety or potentially even outside linebacker. Terry will be worth checking back in on once his senior film is out.
 

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If I were a UCONN fan, I would be excited simply to see those physical measurements.

Of course, we as ND fans know that Diaco's requirements weren't necessarily best for the defense in the long-run, but I think for UCONN it's a good place to start. Get the guys that fit the physical profile and hope they develop.
 

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I guess he's gonna go for the tallest kids and hope they fill out once they get a few years in the program
 

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If I were a UCONN fan, I would be excited simply to see those physical measurements.

Of course, we as ND fans know that Diaco's requirements weren't necessarily best for the defense in the long-run, but I think for UCONN it's a good place to start. Get the guys that fit the physical profile and hope they develop.

Living in CT, everyone is eating up his inspiring and positive attitude. He held a meet and greet at the various Buffalo Wild Wings in the state and I've heard nothing but positive things from them. People were worried about recruiting for a bit until Uconn received it's first verbal on June 9th. 10 more followed in June so that has calmed down. That being said, following Paul Pasqualoni has set a very low bar for Diaco to start with. Really looking forward to that first home game on Friday night vs BYU, but that's just a warm up before ND Rice on Satruday!!!
 

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I personally hope and wish Diaco success.

I think he'll get UConn back to beating folks they shouldn't.

GD that loss hurt a few years ago...
 

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He must have had a he'll of a bbq last month or he forgot to start recruiting till June started
 
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He's got 20 stars verbally comitted. Unfortunately, it's spread over 10 comitts.
 

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Their direct recruiting rival BC has 22 commits right now including 3 from CT so yeah they are gonna have to get creative to compete
 

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Is he speaking to a retirement home? He has mic's no need for yelling.
 
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