'12 AL QB Jameis Winston (FSU Verbal)

Corry

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Not calling you out personally, but you're about the third or fourth person I've read who has said this, or along these lines.........it means A LOT!!!! When you're raped, and or assaulted, sexually or in any other way, you don't view your attacker the same way as you once did......and what I mean by that, in almost every rape case, the female goes through many emotions, and many have a hard time just seeing their attacker, in any capacity.....maybe she's the exception to the rule, but I have a hard time believing that she was raped, and then still carried on a relationship with him.......JMO

I just don't feel comfortable putting guidelines or rules of thumb to victims. Just my take.
 

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I just don't feel comfortable putting guidelines or rules of thumb to victims. Just my take.

I get what you're saying, and cannot disagree with your stance......just playing devil's advocate somewhat, I guess......
 

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I could also see the PC being scheduled more to address the accusation of mishandling by their PD.
 

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>ICYMI:Jameis Winston's dad says son will not enter 2015 <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23NFL&src=hash">#NFL</a> draft. <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23FSU&src=hash">#FSU</a> <a href="http://t.co/oHSnem8G06">http://t.co/oHSnem8G06</a> <a href="http://t.co/YnRmXjEdBc">pic.twitter.com/YnRmXjEdBc</a></p>— CollegeFootball 24/7 (@NFL_CFB) <a href="https://twitter.com/NFL_CFB/statuses/479637341275844609">June 19, 2014</a></blockquote>
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Wow, that would be pretty dumb if he has the kind of year everyone expects.
 

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>ICYMI:Jameis Winston's dad says son will not enter 2015 <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23NFL&src=hash">#NFL</a> draft. <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23FSU&src=hash">#FSU</a> <a href="http://t.co/oHSnem8G06">http://t.co/oHSnem8G06</a> <a href="http://t.co/YnRmXjEdBc">pic.twitter.com/YnRmXjEdBc</a></p>— CollegeFootball 24/7 (@NFL_CFB) <a href="https://twitter.com/NFL_CFB/statuses/479637341275844609">June 19, 2014</a></blockquote>
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Wow, that would be pretty dumb if he has the kind of year everyone expects.

I wouldn't take his dad's word for too much.
 

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It's just a plan. Plans change. A story like that's worth about the pixels it's printed on. Though I did learn he's an engineering major, which is impressive.
 

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I bet he makes more playing for F$U than he would playing in the NFL!

Why would he want to leave?
 

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So how do the Irish stop him? Have the D challenge him to a spelling bee on the line?

Winston: "Red! Sixty-two!"
Irish D player: "Jameis, how do you spell that?"
Winston: "Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh."
Ref: "Penalty, FSU. Delay of game."

It's worth a try.
 

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>ICYMI:Jameis Winston's dad says son will not enter 2015 <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23NFL&src=hash">#NFL</a> draft. <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23FSU&src=hash">#FSU</a> <a href="http://t.co/oHSnem8G06">http://t.co/oHSnem8G06</a> <a href="http://t.co/YnRmXjEdBc">pic.twitter.com/YnRmXjEdBc</a></p>— CollegeFootball 24/7 (@NFL_CFB) <a href="https://twitter.com/NFL_CFB/statuses/479637341275844609">June 19, 2014</a></blockquote>
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Wow, that would be pretty dumb if he has the kind of year everyone expects.

Yeah, except that it's a forgone conclusion here in Tallahassee that he is.
 

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So how do the Irish stop him? Have the D challenge him to a spelling bee on the line?

Winston: "Red! Sixty-two!"
Irish D player: "Jameis, how do you spell that?"
Winston: "Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh."
Ref: "Penalty, FSU. Delay of game."

It's worth a try.

Definitely worth a try.
Hopefully Vangorder thinks of such tactics to take advantage of the lesser educated.
How many fingers have I got if I take away one on each hand? Heck, how many finger same I holding up would confuse him enough probably. The way that dude squints could be an advantage...
Jeez I'm a horrible person ain't I?
 

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Definitely worth a try.
Hopefully Vangorder thinks of such tactics to take advantage of the lesser educated.
How many fingers have I got if I take away one on each hand? Heck, how many finger same I holding up would confuse him enough probably. The way that dude squints could be an advantage...
Jeez I'm a horrible person ain't I?

Why do you guys think he's dumb? I've never gotten that impression. Did you know he was accepted at Stanford?

I'll grant you that his style of speech is different from mine, but I've always attributed that to him being from the deep south.

I understand he has a 3.4 GPA, earned tons of high school honors, is a two sport star athlete who was already drafted once in baseball. He seems humble and driven to succeed and to help his teammates.

The one off the field incident seems like total BS to me, and I'll give him a pass on the crab legs for now. I like Winston and I'll take him 10/10 times over a prick like Manziel.
 

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I only know what I've seen on TV (the guy is a fucking moron through his words and actions), but I don't take much stock in the whole "GPA" thing. Hero worship is so big, especially in the South, a lot of these guys get A's for breathing.
 

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I only know what I've seen on TV (the guy is a fucking moron through his words and actions), but I don't take much stock in the whole "GPA" thing. Hero worship is so big, especially in the South, a lot of these guys get A's for breathing.

How would you compare his words and actions to say... Everett Golson
 

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From my understanding, JW has always done pretty well in the classroom. Too bad he doesn't show it in interviews.
 
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