'15 CA QB Travis Waller (Oregon Verbal)

[TheChosen1]

Barton Simmons on why he CB'd to Notre Dame:

- Has no inside source, just a prediction based on what he knows about Waller
- Waller truly values academics, as does his Mom (that was from Wiltfong) which why he is truly interested in Northwestern
- Waller wants the big stage, which is why he is interested in schools like OSU
- He fits NDs system
- Simmons thinks ND leads for St. Brown

That news is just about as good as any poster on this site can post and put #insider.

 

[STLDomer]

That news is just about as good as any poster on this site can post and put #insider.

No need to disrespect Barton. Do u know Waller personally and know what he values? Barton even began his explanation for the prediction with the fact that he has no inside info but was sharing his reasoning.

 

[Domina Nostra]

No need to disrespect Barton. Do u know Waller personally and know what he values? Barton even began his explanation for the prediction with the fact that he has no inside info but was sharing his reasoning.

Servite Top100 QB Travis Waller hoping for Texas Stanford offers

"For Northwestern, I’m a big academic guy, my mom is too so she really is considering that school."

 

[woolybug25]

He looks too much like Winston Bishop from New Girl for me to take him seriously.

Winston played semi-pro ball, dude....

 

[GBdomer]

Someone summarize Anna's scout article. God that women is on top of it.

 

[ResLife Hero]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Spoke tonight with QB coach Steve Clarkson, who works with <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23ND&src=hash">#ND</a> target Travis Waller. Waller wants to visit ND. Expect decision within weeks</p>— Bob Wieneke (@BobWienekeNDI) <a href="https://twitter.com/BobWienekeNDI/statuses/474706494080827392">June 6, 2014</a></blockquote>
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[Kaneyoufeelit]

Loy just said his source (seems like it is a family member) tells him that ND is very in the mix.

Also, it sounds like ND reached out to the coaches of QBs yesterday. Loy said Waller was offered earlier than Stidham because he contacted the staff first.

 

[rocket66]

Honest question if you had your choice: Would you take a trade of Barnett for a package deal of Waller/St.Brown? Considering our qb situation an depth, I think I do. St.Brown is the real deal.

 

[IrishLax]

Honest question if you had your choice: Would you take a trade of Barnett for a package deal of Waller/St.Brown? Considering our qb situation an depth, I think I do. St.Brown is the real deal.

No, I'd still take Barnett. I think the only players really comparable to Barnett for what we want to do are Stidham and Brady White. Brady White has less upside but has all the markings of a dominant college spread QB. I think there are a lot of "comparable" guys to ESB that you can pick up.

 

[BeauBenken]

I'd stick with Barnett before he decommitted.

Now? Waller and ESB.

 

[TheTurningPoint]

Honest question if you had your choice: Would you take a trade of Barnett for a package deal of Waller/St.Brown? Considering our qb situation an depth, I think I do. St.Brown is the real deal.

Absolutely not. Barnett has the potential to be a program changing QB. Do you want ND to take the next step and be consistent with the big boys? You need QBs with the no ceiling.

Waller is a good QB. But doesnt have a great arm. He is def a runner more than a QB. He has a lot of positive things about him and Id be happy to have him. But has a lot of things that need work to be able to play the competition that ND plays. The good thing for Waller is if he does commit, he wont be asked to contribute immediately and will have that time to be developed.

There is a significant difference between Barnett, Rosen, White, Murray to Towns, Stidham and another step to Waller. But theres a bigger gap between Waller and Francois.

 

[NDPhilly]

TP your saying that Waller is better than Francois by a good amount? I think a lot of people (myself included) would disagree with that.

 

[koonja]

Absolutely not. Barnett has the potential to be a program changing QB. Do you want ND to take the next step and be consistent with the big boys? You need QBs with the no ceiling.

Waller is a good QB. But doesnt have a great arm. He is def a runner more than a QB. He has a lot of positive things about him and Id be happy to have him. But has a lot of things that need work to be able to play the competition that ND plays. The good thing for Waller is if he does commit, he wont be asked to contribute immediately and will have that time to be developed.

There is a significant difference between Barnett, Rosen, White, Murray to Towns, Stidham and another step to Waller. But theres a bigger gap between Waller and Francois.

I think you straight trippin brah.

 

[rocket66]

Absolutely not. Barnett has the potential to be a program changing QB. Do you want ND to take the next step and be consistent with the big boys? You need QBs with the no ceiling.



Waller is a good QB. But doesnt have a great arm. He is def a runner more than a QB. He has a lot of positive things about him and Id be happy to have him. But has a lot of things that need work to be able to play the competition that ND plays. The good thing for Waller is if he does commit, he wont be asked to contribute immediately and will have that time to be developed.



There is a significant difference between Barnett, Rosen, White, Murray to Towns, Stidham and another step to Waller. But theres a bigger gap between Waller and Francois.

I don't get this at all considering the recruiting experts have Waller higher than Barnett still even at this point. Can the gap really be that big, or are you seeing something more than the experts?

 

[TheTurningPoint]

I don't get this at all considering the recruiting experts have Waller higher than Barnett still even at this point. Can the gap really be that big, or are you seeing something more than the experts?

Im not saying Waller isnt a good player. Im not saying that at all. Watch Wallers highlights. Its majority runs. The throws he makes are not on a level of a Barnett,Rosen,White, Stidham or even Towns. Barnett has zero D1 players on his team. White has 7, and Rosen has like 150. Waller Im not sure about, but obviously there is talent there bc ND is recruiting St.Brown. At a high school level a D1 QB and a D1 WR, should win you games alone. He makes some good throws, but he also doesnt have a throw on his tape that stands out. He is Reesesque in that he moves the chains, and doesnt take a ton of chances with his throws. He doesnt have a huge arm, and at a high school level throwing to a 6'4 St.Brown is a huge advantage. Now, he can run with the best of them. He is a great running QB. He runs zone read excellent, really sets up the speed option well, and I believe I saw a little bit of midline in there. He understands the concepts of "read" football and where to attack the defense. I think that part of his game is great. Kelly hasnt run a Auburnish/Urbanish offense in his career...will that change..possibly. But Waller fits that offense more than the spread Kelly typically runs.

Like, I said, Im not trying to downgrade the kid or anything like that bc I think he is fine football player and Id love to him in the Blue and Gold. But there is a lot for him to work on if he is going to pass the ball the way Kelly wants his QBs to pass.

Francois. Is a project. He isnt the runner Waller is and he isnt the passer of Waller. Im not sure what you want me to say NDPhilly.

This is from a few months ago. Its like 5-6 passes in a camp, but you can tell he struggles with control and accuracy. The guys I mentioned that are a level ahead of Waller dont have these issues. The last throw...Barnett/White hit in their sleep and Francois isnt remotely close to hitting it.

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[TheChosen1]

IMO the staff is forced to find a stop gap type of player. They need a QB to fill the spot and are now going all out on 2016 kids. Unfortunately I think the did the same thing last year missing on Allen.

 

[arrowryan]

Travis Waller's tape reminds me a lot of Malik Zaire.

 

[rocket66]

'15 CA QB Travis Waller (Offer)

'15 CA QB Travis Waller (Offer)

Im not saying Waller isnt a good player. Im not saying that at all. Watch Wallers highlights. Its majority runs. The throws he makes are not on a level of a Barnett,Rosen,White, Stidham or even Towns. Barnett has zero D1 players on his team. White has 7, and Rosen has like 150. Waller Im not sure about, but obviously there is talent there bc ND is recruiting St.Brown. At a high school level a D1 QB and a D1 WR, should win you games alone. He makes some good throws, but he also doesnt have a throw on his tape that stands out. He is Reesesque in that he moves the chains, and doesnt take a ton of chances with his throws. He doesnt have a huge arm, and at a high school level throwing to a 6'4 St.Brown is a huge advantage. Now, he can run with the best of them. He is a great running QB. He runs zone read excellent, really sets up the speed option well, and I believe I saw a little bit of midline in there. He understands the concepts of "read" football and where to attack the defense. I think that part of his game is great. Kelly hasnt run a Auburnish/Urbanish offense in his career...will that change..possibly. But Waller fits that offense more than the spread Kelly typically runs.



Like, I said, Im not trying to downgrade the kid or anything like that bc I think he is fine football player and Id love to him in the Blue and Gold. But there is a lot for him to work on if he is going to pass the ball the way Kelly wants his QBs to pass.



Francois. Is a project. He isnt the runner Waller is and he isnt the passer of Waller. Im not sure what you want me to say NDPhilly.



This is from a few months ago. Its like 5-6 passes in a camp, but you can tell he struggles with control and accuracy. The guys I mentioned that are a level ahead of Waller dont have these issues. The last throw...Barnett/White hit in their sleep and Francois isnt remotely close to hitting it.

I get most of it, but your critique makes him sound like a low 3* QB. This kid is the #2 DT with a .9623 rating and a top 40 player nationally. I think you're being a little too harsh. I guess we'll see how he competes at elite 11, which I'm surprised he qualified for considering his Rees-like arm.

 

[NCND]

I get most of it, but your critique makes him sound like a low 3* QB. This kid is the #2 DT with a .9623 rating and a top 40 player nationally. I think you're being a little too harsh. I guess we'll see how he competes at elite 11, which I'm surprised he qualified for considering his Rees-like arm.

Agree. I had to double check the ratings to make sure I wasn't tripping. Lol

 

[koonja]

I think Beau made a good point about how Waller has the best touch, and that's the one thing you can't improve.

I think Waller puts on 25 LBs of muscle, and he has as high of a ceiling as anyone mentioned above, spare Blake Barnett.

That's the 'if'.

He's too damn small and doesn't have the arm at this point. Yes, he has 3 years before he'll have to play at ND, but is 25 LBs of strength realistic? Who knows. I'm not a doctor. But if I knew he was going to strengthen his arm and be strong enough to stay alive, I'd take him in over anyone else above, minus Blake.

 

[BleedBlueGold]

IMO the staff is forced to find a stop gap type of player. They need a QB to fill the spot and are now going all out on 2016 kids. Unfortunately I think the did the same thing last year missing on Allen.

This is basically what I was trying to say yesterday when I mentioned that I felt the staff should shoot for a role player at QB. One that can be developed but just needs time. He may never amount to a starter, but having a solid QB at backup as a "stop gap" helps spread the depth chart a little --> Which means there's less of a chance that the QBs become disgruntled over lack of PT and transfer, which is a helluva lot worse situation, imo.

Waller may or may not be that guy. I honestly don't know. I'm not a QB-evaluating guru.

Note: Don't get me wrong, if the staff lands White or Stidham, I'll be ecstatic.

 

[PANDFAN]

OVERALL TRAITS
Size-Strength-Mobility
Tall and lanky, he shows good body control. Shows excellent frame development upside to add strength and mass. Measurables are ideal. Is a deceptively good athlete capable of eluding the rush and keeping a play alive while keeping his eyes downfield. More of a pocket movement player than a scary run threat, but could be utilized as a runner and while not a true dual-threat, he will surprise you with his legs. Speed is very good for the position.
Mental-Makeup
Is a really good ball handler and operator of the scheme. Shows poise and command within the pocket. Very competitive when the play breaks down to keep eyes downfield and buy a second passing chance. Has a highly competitive temperament. Can move the ball efficiently with his arm and feet. Takes some calculated risks with the ball, but not foolish or erratic. Plays with a high level of confidence. Our concern is with how he plays under duress. Does not show the same level of accuracy or authority with people in his face.
Accuracy
Very good in this area. Balanced, set and consistent with his feet. Light on his feet with a good base. Drop speed and set up are quick and sound with quality weight transfer to maximize arm and accuracy. Shows touch and zip and leads receivers nicely on crossing routes. Very good to intermediate levels along the sideline. Excellent at dropping the ball over the top of coverage. Must be careful not to throw off back foot on deep balls.
Release/Arm Strength
Displays excellent arm strength. The ball comes out quickly and with very good zip and RPMs. Has flashed the ability to drive the ball to the sideline from the opposite hash and push the ball deep downfield from within the pocket. Ball really comes out when he needs to zip it. Can make some difficult throws to intermediate and deep levels. We wish his delivery was smoother and a bit more compact. Release is over-the-top, but can also be robotic and tense. Slightly cups the ball with his wrist. At the end of the day, his production trumps unorthodox delivery method.
Bottom Line
Waller is without question flying under the radar. He is intriguing because he could play in just about any scheme and his athleticism may be his most undervalued trait. Plays a highly competitive brand of football. We would anticipate he'll see a significant uptick in recruiting attention well into his senior year. There is a high ceiling for development here with quality tools to mold. Reminds us of Jacob Park from the 2014 class.
Junior Eval
insider. i believe i posted this in the 15' qb thread....but while i know some people here coach football or played collegiate level football....some people who are paid to review film see some different things than what others are posting here..tifwiw

 

[NCND]

OVERALL TRAITS
Size-Strength-Mobility
Tall and lanky, he shows good body control. Shows excellent frame development upside to add strength and mass. Measurables are ideal. Is a deceptively good athlete capable of eluding the rush and keeping a play alive while keeping his eyes downfield. More of a pocket movement player than a scary run threat, but could be utilized as a runner and while not a true dual-threat, he will surprise you with his legs. Speed is very good for the position.
Mental-Makeup
Is a really good ball handler and operator of the scheme. Shows poise and command within the pocket. Very competitive when the play breaks down to keep eyes downfield and buy a second passing chance. Has a highly competitive temperament. Can move the ball efficiently with his arm and feet. Takes some calculated risks with the ball, but not foolish or erratic. Plays with a high level of confidence. Our concern is with how he plays under duress. Does not show the same level of accuracy or authority with people in his face.
Accuracy
Very good in this area. Balanced, set and consistent with his feet. Light on his feet with a good base. Drop speed and set up are quick and sound with quality weight transfer to maximize arm and accuracy. Shows touch and zip and leads receivers nicely on crossing routes. Very good to intermediate levels along the sideline. Excellent at dropping the ball over the top of coverage. Must be careful not to throw off back foot on deep balls.
Release/Arm Strength
Displays excellent arm strength. The ball comes out quickly and with very good zip and RPMs. Has flashed the ability to drive the ball to the sideline from the opposite hash and push the ball deep downfield from within the pocket. Ball really comes out when he needs to zip it. Can make some difficult throws to intermediate and deep levels. We wish his delivery was smoother and a bit more compact. Release is over-the-top, but can also be robotic and tense. Slightly cups the ball with his wrist. At the end of the day, his production trumps unorthodox delivery method.
Bottom Line
Waller is without question flying under the radar. He is intriguing because he could play in just about any scheme and his athleticism may be his most undervalued trait. Plays a highly competitive brand of football. We would anticipate he'll see a significant uptick in recruiting attention well into his senior year. There is a high ceiling for development here with quality tools to mold. Reminds us of Jacob Park from the 2014 class.
Junior Eval
insider. i believe i posted this in the 15' qb thread....but while i know some people here coach football or played collegiate level football....some people who are paid to review film see some different things than what others are posting here..tifwiw

That doesn't sound like Rees to me..

 

[ResLife Hero]

Im not saying Waller isnt a good player. Im not saying that at all. Watch Wallers highlights. Its majority runs. The throws he makes are not on a level of a Barnett,Rosen,White, Stidham or even Towns. Barnett has zero D1 players on his team. White has 7, and Rosen has like 150. Waller Im not sure about, but obviously there is talent there bc ND is recruiting St.Brown. At a high school level a D1 QB and a D1 WR, should win you games alone. He makes some good throws, but he also doesnt have a throw on his tape that stands out. He is Reesesque in that he moves the chains, and doesnt take a ton of chances with his throws. He doesnt have a huge arm, and at a high school level throwing to a 6'4 St.Brown is a huge advantage. Now, he can run with the best of them. He is a great running QB. He runs zone read excellent, really sets up the speed option well, and I believe I saw a little bit of midline in there. He understands the concepts of "read" football and where to attack the defense. I think that part of his game is great. Kelly hasnt run a Auburnish/Urbanish offense in his career...will that change..possibly. But Waller fits that offense more than the spread Kelly typically runs.

Like, I said, Im not trying to downgrade the kid or anything like that bc I think he is fine football player and Id love to him in the Blue and Gold. But there is a lot for him to work on if he is going to pass the ball the way Kelly wants his QBs to pass.

I'll admit I had similar impressions from his game tape, but I was watching ESB's film yesterday because I'd never gotten around to it (btw, WANT), and you see him unleash on some bigger, riskier throws. Not all of them are on a dime, but he's certainly got more firepower now than Ress had as a college senior. Unless Servite ran a 2 QB set, I'm not sure why Waller didn't include those same plays in his reel.

 

[arrowryan]

I think Beau made a good point about how Waller has the best touch, and that's the one thing you can't improve.

I think Waller puts on 25 LBs of muscle, and he has as high of a ceiling as anyone mentioned above, spare Blake Barnett.

That's the 'if'.

He's too damn small and doesn't have the arm at this point. Yes, he has 3 years before he'll have to play at ND, but is 25 LBs of strength realistic? Who knows. I'm not a doctor. But if I knew he was going to strengthen his arm and be strong enough to stay alive, I'd take him in over anyone else above, minus Blake.

Uhhhh Travis Waller is 2 inches taller and 25 pounds heavier than Everett Golson when he was a senior in high school, according to Rivals. Waller is not even close to being too small and definitely doesn't need to be 220 to be a college quarterback

 

[koonja]

Absolutely not. Barnett has the potential to be a program changing QB. Do you want ND to take the next step and be consistent with the big boys? You need QBs with the no ceiling.

Waller is a good QB. But doesnt have a great arm. He is def a runner more than a QB. He has a lot of positive things about him and Id be happy to have him. But has a lot of things that need work to be able to play the competition that ND plays. The good thing for Waller is if he does commit, he wont be asked to contribute immediately and will have that time to be developed.

There is a significant difference between Barnett, Rosen, White, Murray to Towns, Stidham and another step to Waller. But theres a bigger gap between Waller and Francois.

Uhhhh Travis Waller is 2 inches taller and 25 pounds heavier than Everett Golson when he was a senior in high school, according to Rivals. Waller is not even close to being too small and definitely doesn't need to be 220 to be a college quarterback

Yes, Golson was shorter and lighter than Waller, but Waller right now is a twig. Here's a pick of Golson in high-school. Although he was smaller then, I don't think there was a concern that he'd fill out his frame well. I don't know if Waller's strength will catch up to his wiry-ness.

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[WakeUpEchoes]

Yes, Golson was shorter and lighter than Waller, but Waller right now is a twig. Here's a pick of Golson in high-school. Although he was smaller then, I don't think there was a concern that he'd fill out his frame well. I don't know if Waller's strength will catch up to his wiry-ness.

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Have you seen Barnett. Most of the '15 QB's are wiry right now. A lot of them develop and fill out their freshman year.

 

[koonja]

Have you seen Barnett. Most of the '15 QB's are wiry right now. A lot of them develop and fill out their freshman year.

You can look at Barnett and see he's going to have good size. IMO, I look at Waller and that's more of an uncertainty. That's all I'm saying.

I really don't see Barnett as wirey. No, he's not ready to take shots from MSU's defense, but you can tell he's about a year or two away.

 

[NCND]

You can look at Barnett and see he's going to have good size. IMO, I look at Waller and that's more of an uncertainty. That's all I'm saying.

I really don't see Barnett as wirey. No, he's not ready to take shots from MSU's defense, but you can tell he's about a year or two away.

U don't see him as Wirey? C'mon man he's skinny as hell.

 

[#1rish]

All of this is subjective. How in the hell can someone tell if a 17-18 year old kid will fill out his frame?