'15 CA QB Blake Barnett (Arizona State Transfer)

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Even Loy has given in and CB'd him to Oregon

Buck up fellas. A week ago we all thought Loy was an idiot, and now we're taking his CBs as the gospel. As recent as 2 or 3 days ago, I read a rant from someone on IE about how silly the whole CB thing has gotten and how it wasn't a good predictor of anything. He's our recruit until he says otherwise. Let the staff do what they do. Let them scuff up some of the luster from that new shiny visit.
 

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Buck up fellas. A week ago we all thought Loy was an idiot, and now we're taking his CBs as the gospel. As recent as 2 or 3 days ago, I read a rant from someone on IE about how silly the whole CB thing has gotten and how it wasn't a good predictor of anything. He's our recruit until he says otherwise. Let the staff do what they do. Let them scuff up some of the luster from that new shiny visit.

I take whatever he says with a grain of salt, but from a guy who CB's everyone and their mother to ND, it was a little odd to see from him.
 

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Buck up fellas. A week ago we all thought Loy was an idiot, and now we're taking his CBs as the gospel. As recent as 2 or 3 days ago, I read a rant from someone on IE about how silly the whole CB thing has gotten and how it wasn't a good predictor of anything. He's our recruit until he says otherwise. Let the staff do what they do. Let them scuff up some of the luster from that new shiny visit.

Loy is one of the biggest homers with his CBs on the 247 network. If he thinks he's gone, he's gone.
 
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I bet any money BK is as purple as the USF game.

Or as drunk as a Kennedy.

Or both.
 
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Sorry boys but if Loy said that he is gone then he is gone oh well who cares I'm over it. Have fun being. The next some else instead of the first Blake Barnett.
 

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This!!! Everyone keeps talking about QB's to the league from ND or Oregon. I think an important reminder would be the O-Line Haul the last few years, the current incoming class, and next years committed class. A quarterback is only as good as the line in front of him. ND's haul has been top 3 last 3 years. Thats what I am hitting home with Blake, along with the TE, and possible WR talent.

Excellent point.
 

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Losing Blake will hurt, but if DeShone shows promise early on it'll make it a lot easier. I feel really good with 1 year left of Everett, 2 of Malik, and (potentially) 4 for DeShone.
 

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This might be the straw that breaks the camel's back for me when it comes to following recruiting. I just don't know how to care anymore before NSD when the vast majority of prospects we target have huge flip risk and even the ones that are "solid" can turn 180 degrees in a hurry.

ND got absolutely worked on this one. Oregon is known for recruiting through "mentors" (Lache Seastrunk, anyone?) and in this case they did an absolute dandy with misinformation. You're much more likely to believe it when it comes from a "trusted source" than a coach with motive.

Let's break down the non-Barnett quotes in the last Hopkins updates...
-"Despite his public comments, I continued to link him to Oregon at the ire of nearly everyone else." Sure sounds like he cared an awful lot on which way this turned out...
-"South Bend is a long ways from home. While Eugene isn't right next door, it's clearly a much closer option. Barnett doesn't need to live next door, but flights to Eugene will be much easier for his mother and father." Total crap. Portland is a 2.5 hour flight from San Diego. Chicago is a 4 hour flight. 1.5 hours of difference is largely irrelevant, because neither is a day drive.
-"Despite the world-class facilities and long-tenured coaching staff, it was something else that grabbed his attention" They have a brand new coach who is just trying to ride the coattails of an offensive genius?

I mean... come onnnnnnnn... he's not even trying anymore.

Sure sounds like we lost. It is what it is. I'm just salty over how exactly it is that we lost. "Mentors," misinformation, glitz, and fluffed up crap majors. It's the quadfecta of crap I can't stand in recruiting.
 
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I hope Golson goes for 600 yards against Michigan, and MSU stomps Oregon.

And the Sports Broadcasting degree definitely sounds cool, but it doesn't matter what they call it, what matters is it's Oregon issuing the degree as opposed to Notre Dame.
 

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This might be the straw that breaks the camel's back for me when it comes to following recruiting. I just don't know how to care anymore before NSD when the vast majority of prospects we target have huge flip risk and even the ones that are "solid" can turn 180 degrees in a hurry.

ND got absolutely worked on this one. Oregon is known for recruiting through "mentors" (Lache Seastrunk, anyone?) and in this case they did an absolute dandy with misinformation. You're much more likely to believe it when it comes from a "trusted source" than a coach with motive.

Let's break down the non-Barnett quotes in the last Hopkins updates...
-"Despite his public comments, I continued to link him to Oregon at the ire of nearly everyone else." Sure sounds like he cared an awful lot on which way this turned out...
-"South Bend is a long ways from home. While Eugene isn't right next door, it's clearly a much closer option. Barnett doesn't need to live next door, but flights to Eugene will be much easier for his mother and father." Total crap. Portland is a 2.5 hour flight from San Diego. Chicago is a 4 hour flight. 1.5 hours of difference is largely irrelevant, because neither is a day drive.
-"Despite the world-class facilities and long-tenured coaching staff, it was something else that grabbed his attention" They have a brand new coach who is just trying to ride the coattails of an offensive genius?

I mean... come onnnnnnnn... he's not even trying anymore.

Sure sounds like we lost. It is what it is. I'm just salty over how exactly it is that we lost. "Mentors," misinformation, glitz, and fluffed up crap majors. It's the quadfecta of crap I can't stand in recruiting.

I love college football Saturdays.....the games, the players, the friends and the booze. I hate everything else that college football is and has become. But hey, what can we expect when the best coaches in the game would sell their wife and daughters for the right recruit?
 

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This might be the straw that breaks the camel's back for me when it comes to following recruiting. I just don't know how to care anymore before NSD when the vast majority of prospects we target have huge flip risk and even the ones that are "solid" can turn 180 degrees in a hurry.

ND got absolutely worked on this one. Oregon is known for recruiting through "mentors" (Lache Seastrunk, anyone?) and in this case they did an absolute dandy with misinformation. You're much more likely to believe it when it comes from a "trusted source" than a coach with motive.

Let's break down the non-Barnett quotes in the last Hopkins updates...
-"Despite his public comments, I continued to link him to Oregon at the ire of nearly everyone else." Sure sounds like he cared an awful lot on which way this turned out...
-"South Bend is a long ways from home. While Eugene isn't right next door, it's clearly a much closer option. Barnett doesn't need to live next door, but flights to Eugene will be much easier for his mother and father." Total crap. Portland is a 2.5 hour flight from San Diego. Chicago is a 4 hour flight. 1.5 hours of difference is largely irrelevant, because neither is a day drive.
-"Despite the world-class facilities and long-tenured coaching staff, it was something else that grabbed his attention" They have a brand new coach who is just trying to ride the coattails of an offensive genius?

I mean... come onnnnnnnn... he's not even trying anymore.

Sure sounds like we lost. It is what it is. I'm just salty over how exactly it is that we lost. "Mentors," misinformation, glitz, and fluffed up crap majors. It's the quadfecta of crap I can't stand in recruiting.

Well said my friend. And I wouldn't be surprised if there wasn't even more to this story. Oregon is not a quality football program with any sort of moral or ethical standard like you pointed out.
 

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This will probably create a break for many fans, which might be constructive for many.

A good break is always a good thing when getting really caught up on college football.

Rejuvenates the mind.
 

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This is another classic example of why I don't give a damn about, or follow closely, college football recruiting until NSD.
 
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I'm not going to stop following ND recruiting, but I'm starting to feel like one of the Violinists on the Titanic.

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I love college football Saturdays.....the games, the players, the friends and the booze. I hate everything else that college football is and has become.

Nicely put, totally agree.

This might be the straw that breaks the camel's back for me when it comes to following recruiting. I just don't know how to care anymore before NSD when the vast majority of prospects we target have huge flip risk and even the ones that are "solid" can turn 180 degrees in a hurry.


I'm just salty over how exactly it is that we lost. "Mentors," misinformation, glitz, and fluffed up crap majors. It's the quadfecta of crap I can't stand in recruiting.

I've been thinking the same thing lately. I've reached a point where I no longer trust anyone to stick with his commitment. And don't get me wrong, I almost never blame the kids ... it's just that the process is such that I can't get too invested in the players too early on any more.
 

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I have never paid a dime to the recruiting sites and this is why. They are too powerful and can spend time with recruits and know one knows what is being spoken about.
 

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To me, it all comes down to this: do I trust that Coach Kelly and the staff will be able to handle this burden? I must say that with everything else I've seen him shoulder, there can be only one answer. In Kelly I trust.

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So Hopkins earlier today CB-d Travis Waller to ND.

Now that punk bitch has changed his Waller CB to cloudy, lol.

Troll.
 
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I don't think you can love both Notre Dame AND Oregon.... unless what you mostly loved about Notre Dame was the shine: the TV contract, a Heisman mock up poster, a gold encrusted phone case, and a photo op with the head coach....

Notre Dame IS NOT just a business decision.

Notre Dame is a family, with responsibilities beyond football and a commitment to overcoming obstacles within the community and when you are alone with your thoughts. The University is about action, and yet is built for introspection. The city and its weather challenge your psyche...

So if the heart of Notre Dame is what you are attracted to, you don't love Oregon, you love Notre Dame.
 

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You sound like an adult who has lived a little Pachuco
 

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hah, of course... Your post just made me think of the kids i used to teach... if they were 'huge cfb fans' they usually didn't know the first thing about anything off the field... so it was easy to have a 'fandom' for two schools that were very different in reality.
 

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So Hopkins earlier today CB-d Travis Waller to ND.

Now that punk bitch has changed his Waller CB to cloudy, lol.

Troll.

Fucking clown shoes.

I don't throw myself off a cliff when things like this occur in the recruiting game, but I do get extremely irritated at the shaddy ladys and their bag men tactics.

Justin Hopkins just made the list of people I despise. Last entry: Jim Mora & Staff.
 

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Nicely put, totally agree.



I've been thinking the same thing lately. I've reached a point where I no longer trust anyone to stick with his commitment. And don't get me wrong, I almost never blame the kids ... it's just that the process is such that I can't get too invested in the players too early on any more.

I've also kind of "checked out" on recruiting. Wasn't any one thing, but the cumulative effect of all the shenanigans. I don't feel like committing to a school should be a two step process. You should be able to sign when you decide, any time you want. Failing that, they shouldn't report on "verbals" prior to NSD. The system they have no makes no sense.
 
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I've also kind of "checked out" on recruiting. Wasn't any one thing, but the cumulative effect of all the shenanigans. I don't feel like committing to a school should be a two step process. You should be able to sign when you decide, any time you want. Failing that, they shouldn't report on "verbals" prior to NSD. The system they have no makes no sense.

That would be a disaster, IMO.
 
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