'10 FL CB Cody Riggs (Notre Dame Transferee)

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Riggs seriously might be worth 1-2 wins. Going to help immeasurably against spread teams and 3 WR sets.
 

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you think Riggs will start over Luke then?

I don't know anything, but yes, I do.

I think Riggs will be in the slot when teams throw 3 WRs out there and Luke will be out wide, but I bet Riggs ends up playing more snaps than Luke IMO
 

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he might be UGE and I mean UGE factor against FSU in more ways then one. He's been there, he'll have the leadership, and lets not forget, he'll help on the field.
 

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Riggs seriously might be worth 1-2 wins. Going to help immeasurably against spread teams and 3 WR sets.

Kind of what I was thinking.

Plus, I'm really hopeful that he'll step in and help with leadership. If nothing else, he's got a ton of experience.

I know he'll be new to the team this summer, but he's a 5th year, a grad student, and has played a ton of snaps against a lot of good teams.

I can't see this as anything but a bonus for both on the field and in the locker room.
 

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If nothing else, he will be an example of the idea of STUDENT-athlete that ND always talks about.
 

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he might be UGE and I mean UGE factor against FSU in more ways then one. He's been there, he'll have the leadership, and lets not forget, he'll help on the field.

Dawg... He's gonna make a big difference out there.

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I love the potential this has to set a precedent. Per BGI, the way this all went down is that
a) Alford recruited Riggs out of high school in 2010, and they formed a close bond,
b) last fall, Riggs reached out to Alford to see if ND would have a spot for him as a transfer,
c) Alford filed paperwork and sought permission to speak to Riggs about transferring,
d) Alford and Riggs caught up, re-established their bond, and Riggs chose to transfer to ND.

A lot of times on this site we say that finishing second in recruiting doesn't help you, and obviously we would prefer that Alford land these kids the first time around, but if we could establish a practice of getting kids we narrowly miss on out of HS into ND as 5Y transfers, it could really help depth. Imagine if someone like Nathan Starks has a good college career and stays out of trouble, but wants out of UCLA after 4 years. He has a great relationship with Alford, and now there is a blueprint for taking advantage of that.
 

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I love the potential this has to set a precedent. Per BGI, the way this all went down is that
a) Alford recruited Riggs out of high school in 2010, and they formed a close bond,
b) last fall, Riggs reached out to Alford to see if ND would have a spot for him as a transfer,
c) Alford filed paperwork and sought permission to speak to Riggs about transferring,
d) Alford and Riggs caught up, re-established their bond, and Riggs chose to transfer to ND.

A lot of times on this site we say that finishing second in recruiting doesn't help you, and obviously we would prefer that Alford land these kids the first time around, but if we could establish a practice of getting kids we narrowly miss on out of HS into ND as 5Y transfers, it could really help depth. Imagine if someone like Nathan Starks has a good college career and stays out of trouble, but wants out of UCLA after 4 years. He has a great relationship with Alford, and now there is a blueprint for taking advantage of that.

Similar thing happened with Jevan Snead who only transferred from Texas to Ole Miss because he had a great relationship with Ole Miss' OC/QB Coach, who recruited him at Miami and moved on to Ole Miss.

To go along with your point, I'm honestly surprised that Riggs is the first 5th year that we've gotten (I'm not counting Wulfeck) considering that we seem to finish 2nd with so many recruits.
 

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Similar thing happened with Jevan Snead who only transferred from Texas to Ole Miss because he had a great relationship with Ole Miss' OC/QB Coach, who recruited him at Miami and moved on to Ole Miss.

To go along with your point, I'm honestly surprised that Riggs is the first 5th year that we've gotten (I'm not counting Wulfeck) considering that we seem to finish 2nd with so many recruits.

I'd imagine graduate transfers like Riggs are pretty rare. It's far more common for career bench-warmers to transfer from a power house to a middling team (see: all the ND players who transferred for one last shot at playing time under Weis and Martin) than for a starter on a power house to transfer to another power house for a graduate degree. Such players are usually either: (1) NFL-bound; or (2) too attached to their original program to transfer.

I'd love for Riggs to set a precedent here, but I just don't see how this sort of transfer becomes a regular occurrence going forward.
 

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Good for Riggs. And good for Notre Dame. He should make an immediate impact at the corner position.
 

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Good point, Whiskey. Plus Riggs was somewhat high on ND early in his recruitment too. I imagine that factored in to his decision, as well as the struggles that Florida has faced this last season. It's crazy to think that ND is closer to getting back to the NCG than Florida is.
 

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I'd imagine graduate transfers like Riggs are pretty rare. It's far more common for career bench-warmers to transfer from a power house to a middling team (see: all the ND players who transferred for one last shot at playing time under Weis and Martin) than for a starter on a power house to transfer to another power house for a graduate degree. Such players are usually either: (1) NFL-bound; or (2) too attached to their original program to transfer.

I'd love for Riggs to set a precedent here, but I just don't see how this sort of transfer becomes a regular occurrence going forward.

I tend to agree. I think this starts the conversation which may lead to something more down the line but as of now this is an isolated incident that we're benefiting from.
 

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I'd imagine graduate transfers like Riggs are pretty rare. It's far more common for career bench-warmers to transfer from a power house to a middling team (see: all the ND players who transferred for one last shot at playing time under Weis and Martin) than for a starter on a power house to transfer to another power house for a graduate degree. Such players are usually either: (1) NFL-bound; or (2) too attached to their original program to transfer.

I'd love for Riggs to set a precedent here, but I just don't see how this sort of transfer becomes a regular occurrence going forward.

Agreed.

I wonder, though, if ND would be willing to take kids that played/started a couple years at a school like Nevada or Iowa State (for instance). Not very good programs, probably not huge potential for his 1 year at ND, but could add some solid depth/leadership. I don't know, I think it may be a case-by-case basis. The staff probably doesn't want to devote a lot of time to a kid that will be there 1 year (and isn't spectacular) and could hinder the development of younger guys, but if a position is lacking depth, a player like that could come in and help.

It could be kind of an end around method around JUCO's.
 

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Agreed.

I wonder, though, if ND would be willing to take kids that played/started a couple years at a school like Nevada or Iowa State (for instance). Not very good programs, probably not huge potential for his 1 year at ND, but could add some solid depth/leadership. I don't know, I think it may be a case-by-case basis. The staff probably doesn't want to devote a lot of time to a kid that will be there 1 year (and isn't spectacular) and could hinder the development of younger guys, but if a position is lacking depth, a player like that could come in and help.

It could be kind of an end around method around JUCO's.

That's an interesting point. What if, in 4 years, Allen Lazard decides he wants to play for a real football team? (I doubt he will redshirt, but he might get hurt and preserve a year that way, as Riggs did.)

Cal is dumpster fire-esque; maybe Erik Brown wants to try ND in a few years.

Ooh, or there is Victor Egu, LB from Cali last cycle who was a backup plan for us, committed to Cal when he wasn't a take for ND, then ended up flipping to Yale after the coaching change. After 4 years in the Ivy League, I could definitely see him wanting to give big time football a try, and academics are a priority for him.

I see what you guys are saying about these opportunities to pick up quality 5Ys being rare, but I think they are out there. There are a fair amount of kids we recruit who end up at schools that play shitty football.
 
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I'd imagine graduate transfers like Riggs are pretty rare. It's far more common for career bench-warmers to transfer from a power house to a middling team (see: all the ND players who transferred for one last shot at playing time under Weis and Martin) than for a starter on a power house to transfer to another power house for a graduate degree. Such players are usually either: (1) NFL-bound; or (2) too attached to their original program to transfer.

I'd love for Riggs to set a precedent here, but I just don't see how this sort of transfer becomes a regular occurrence going forward.

I was reading through and was going to post something similar. You're right, this is going to be more of a rare occurrence than the norm.

Regardless a great addition for this year.

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Not gonna lie if he has a pick 6 against FSU and does the Gator chomp I will give 0 shits.

You're my boy blue. But I'd be pissed if him or any player in a ND uniform did any other team's celebration. We are ND!

Awesome pick up for free rent.
 

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That's an interesting point. What if, in 4 years, Allen Lazard decides he wants to play for a real football team? (I doubt he will redshirt, but he might get hurt and preserve a year that way, as Riggs did.)

Cal is dumpster fire-esque; maybe Erik Brown wants to try ND in a few years.

Ooh, or there is Victor Egu, LB from Cali last cycle who was a backup plan for us, committed to Cal when he wasn't a take for ND, then ended up flipping to Yale after the coaching change. After 4 years in the Ivy League, I could definitely see him wanting to give big time football a try, and academics are a priority for him.

I see what you guys are saying about these opportunities to pick up quality 5Ys being rare, but I think they are out there. There are a fair amount of kids we recruit who end up at schools that play shitty football.

I definitely think there are many Cody Riggs types out there, its just a matter of ND saying "we accept 5th year transfers if we have room so please consider us if you want a quality postgrad and great football" Nothing more needs to be said. Its a ways for a 21 year old to correct the bad decisions they might have made at 17/18.
 
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I think this guy will be an asset this year for recruiting Florida.
 

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I think this guy will be an asset this year for recruiting Florida.

Not sure how you see that. We have other Florida players on the roster, don't know what influence they've really had. I mean Louis Nix is from Florida, and even as an All American with his likeable/expressive personality I doubt he affected anybody's decision to commit over his tenure here.

But Riggs is in a real good situation to make an impact for mainly two reasons:

1. Anyway you look at it, there is at least 2 open secondary spots, with Russell as the only guaranteed starter locking down one of the corner spots.

2. And even as a new guy, he will still be on an even playing field with the rest of the secondary in regards to the system with their being a new DC.
 
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