'10 IL QB Tommy Rees (Notre Dame Man)

[IrishLion]

The stats are the stats. He had less than three yards a carry as a dual threat QB. He had a 53% career completion % and less 58% completion percentage in his first three seasons. His senior season... 60.4%...

If the stats are the stats, then we're talking about Tommy Rees being better than Joe Montana haha.

 

[woolybug25]

He actually averaged 6.1 ypc over his 21 professional football seasons. If you're referring to his college rushing stats, don't forget sacks counted as a rushing attempt and yardage lost when he played at BC. But, I'm all done arguing for the night.

We're talking about college QB's and Flutie was an undersized, unathletic player in college.

 

[woolybug25]

If the stats are the stats, then we're talking about Tommy Rees being better than Joe Montana haha.

That's silly and no one is making that type of comparison. That being said, I think it's fair to say that if you have an undersized, DT quarterback, you expect more than 3 yards a carry.

You guys are just remembering the heroics of Flutie and mistaking it for athleticism. The reality is that he was undersized and lacking break away speed. He was unathletic compared to standard of athletic QBs.

 

[GoldenIsThyFame]

Why are we belaboring one half of one game? Yeah he wasn't good, but so what? Golson was 3-8 with two INTs against Michigan last year. In the first 20 minutes of game time he was 1-5 for 1 yard with 1 INT. He then completed two longer passes (13 and 16 yds) and then was picked again (that awful one in the endzone). Would we be discussing this if he was still here and preparing for camp? Most likely not. We would be talking about how much he has grown and learned from previous mistakes.

Practice can't come soon enough.

 

[IrishLion]

That's silly and no one is making that type of comparison. That being said, I think it's fair to say that if you have an undersized, DT quarterback, you expect more than 3 yards a carry.

You guys are just remembering the heroics of Flutie and mistaking it for athleticism. The reality is that he was undersized and lacking break away speed. He was unathletic compared to standard of athletic QBs.

Just having fun Wooly, it was a joke from earlier in the thread. Someone then delved into Montana vs. Testaverde, so I thought your comment about "stats" fit nicely.

 

[Irish Houstonian]

I personally don't think Tommy's that bad. Heck, if the defense plays the same way they did last year, he won't have to do much anyway.

That said, stat-wise, if you're going to take out all the 'not his fault' stats, then you should probably take out all his Floyd/Eifert completions and TD's that were really just great catches.

 

[NDBoiler]

Are you talking about the same 5'10" dual threat QB that had less than 3 yards a carry in his career?

Then Yes...

What about Jonathon Moxon out of West Canaan, TX? Dude could fly...

 

[Old Man Mike]

.......damm this thread sucks. Any decent insight totally obscured by testosterone "no backing up// no compromise" unenlightenment.

PLEASE START AUGUST PRACTICES!!! Save what's left of our minds!!

 

[irishog77]

I don't think anybody can deny that Flutie wore some pretty kick-@ss cut-off t-shirts under his pads though. They were glorious.

 

[Me2SouthBend]

We're talking about college QB's and Flutie was an undersized, unathletic player in college.

Doug Flutie is short but he is not unathletic. He can dunk a basketball and he could run. I don't think you can be 5' 10" and play in the NFL unless you have athleticism. The only 2 things he has in common w Tommy would be skin color and height. He threw the Hail Mary to Phelan 65 yards in the air. Check the video. This doesn't remind me of Tommy in the least.

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[pkt77242]

Doug Flutie is short but he is not unathletic. He can dunk a basketball and he could run. I don't think you can be 5' 10" and play in the NFL unless you have athleticism. The only 2 things he has in common w Tommy would be skin color and height. He threw the Hail Mary to Phelan 65 yards in the air. Check the video. This doesn't remind me of Tommy in the least.

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He does not have height in common with Rees. Rees is 6'2" which is much taller than Flutie.

 

[Booslum31]

I don't think anybody can deny that Flutie wore some pretty kick-@ss cut-off t-shirts under his pads though. They were glorious.

And he could drop-kick...which is nice! Got a box of Flutie-Flakes in my collection of (550+) Wheaties Boxes. Gonna get a huge pay-day some day.

 

[Irish Houstonian]

Please burn this Boston College love fest.

 

[jimmymac]

Doug Flutie is short but he is not unathletic. He can dunk a basketball and he could run. I don't think you can be 5' 10" and play in the NFL unless you have athleticism. The only 2 things he has in common w Tommy would be skin color and height. He threw the Hail Mary to Phelan 65 yards in the air. Check the video. This doesn't remind me of Tommy in the least.

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My twin brother goes to BC and he knows Phelan's daughter very well (she goes there too). She's a babe. Just thought I'd throw that out there

 

[Emcee77]

Doug Flutie is short but he is not unathletic. He can dunk a basketball and he could run. I don't think you can be 5' 10" and play in the NFL unless you have athleticism. The only 2 things he has in common w Tommy would be skin color and height. He threw the Hail Mary to Phelan 65 yards in the air. Check the video. This doesn't remind me of Tommy in the least.

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Haha absolutely. I love Tommy but no way he gets the ball to the goal line from his own 35 or 36 yard line. Not even close.

(but as someone else pointed out, Tommy has a good four inches on Flutie ... for whatever that's worth ... which is probably not much)

 

[NDdomer2]

Haha absolutely. I love Tommy but no way he gets the ball to the goal line from his own 35 or 36 yard line. Not even close.

(but as someone else pointed out, Tommy has a good four inches on Flutie ... for whatever that's worth ... which is probably not much)

Probably costs nike about $0.30 to make a size 10 to a size 12

 

[Irish8248]

What about Adidas though?

 

[NDdomer2]

What about Adidas though?

$.027

 

[Circa]

"On Tommy Rees: “He has to continue to make good decisions. Any quarterback has to do that. He’s stronger. He has a great understanding of our offense. We probably won’t be running as much option with Tommy, but we’ll do things that suit him. We really like the way he’s developed physically. He’s stronger. He’s running well. I think you’ll see the very best of Tommy Rees.”" Coach Kelly

Love this kid! Hope he does what I've been screaming about since he was a fresh!

 

[BGIF]

"On Tommy Rees: “He has to continue to make good decisions. Any quarterback has to do that. He’s stronger. He has a great understanding of our offense. We probably won’t be running as much option with Tommy, but we’ll do things that suit him. We really like the way he’s developed physically. He’s stronger. He’s running well. I think you’ll see the very best of Tommy Rees.”" Coach Kelly

Love this kid! Hope he does what I've been screaming about since he was a fresh!

What were you screaming about 3 years ago?

 

[Cali_domer]

What were you screaming about 3 years ago?

When a Heisman?

 

[BGIF]

When a Heisman?

When?

 

[Cali_domer]

When?

Notice the italic's...
I have no clue what he was screaming about three years ago.

 

[BGIF]

Notice the italic's...
I have no clue what he was screaming about three years ago.

I noticed the typeface. It's still gibberish.

 

[pumpdog20]

Starting the campaign: "Rees for O'Brien Semi-Finalist"

 

[Whiskeyjack]

Larz from OFD just posted a good film breakdown of how Tommy's technique improved on roll-outs between 2011 and 2012.

There is no doubt that Tommy Rees has improved his ability to throw on the run. While he isn't Everett Golson in terms of mobility, he also isn't 2011 Tommy Rees. Having this added dimension will be a valuable asset for the 2013 Notre Dame offense. Compare the 2011 example to the 2013 example below. Both of these screen shots are taken as Rees is throwing the ball. Pay close attention to the direction Tommy's shoulders and hips are pointing, you should see a big difference.

2011

2012

I might be in the minority but I think Tommy Rees will do a very good job as our starting quarterback this upcoming season. I haven't always felt this way about Rees. However, I believe we will see a significant improvement from the quarterback we saw in 2011. How much of an improvement? Only time will tell. I will say this, I wouldn't be surprised to see better passing numbers from the 2013 offense compared to the undefeated 2012 offense. You can rest assured OFD readers that there is a light at the end of the tunnel, and it's not a South Bend cabbie looking to halt our progress as we sprint towards our intended goal. It's the new and improved, more mobile, Tommy Rees.

For those down on Rees, it should improve your outlook for 2013 somewhat.

Edit: In reading through Keith Arnold's 2nd practice report, the improved technique Larz describes is the most realistic explanation for the reports of a more mobile and stronger Rees:

I’ve heard from multiple people over the past few weeks that have independently said how strong and athletic Rees looks during summer and camp workouts. I’ve also heard that his arm strength looks better than it has in the past, something that could play a huge role in this offense being more efficient if the run game gets cranked up and play-action opportunities present themselves.

I'd imagine one's arm strength looks much improved when not throwing off the back foot.

 

[IrishLion]

This is something I've been wondering about since Golson got suspended. Can Tommy consistently roll out and hit throws on play action?

He doesn't have the cannon that will allow him to run straight-PA, sitting in the pocket and chucking it downfield (at least not consistently). The passing game in general needs to use the roll out as much as possible to give TJ, DD, etc. time to get open crossing the field, coming back to the sidelines, or finding holes in the zone.

If Tommy has enough mobility and proper technique (which it appears he has improved), he can get it done.

However, none of this matters until we know how successful _______ and _______ are running the football.

 

[koonja]

That's the only thing I'm worried about with Rees, is arm strength.

I don't care about bone head plays, that happens. But if he can't show defenses early on that we have the opportunity to run a PA pass for a deep route, were screwed. The box will be stacked, and well win 7/8 games.

I really hope the reports are true of the increased a strength.

 

[PANDFAN]

Larz from OFD just posted a good film breakdown of how Tommy's technique improved on roll-outs between 2011 and 2012.



For those down on Rees, it should improve your outlook for 2013 somewhat.

Edit: In reading through Keith Arnold's 2nd practice report, the improved technique Larz describes is the most realistic explanation for the reports of a more mobile and stronger Rees:



I'd imagine one's arm strength looks much improved when not throwing off the back foot.

that 1000000x's and his body isn't off balance in the 2nd one...he is squared up

 

[yankeeND]

Maybe I'm delusional but this just seems like ND lore in the making. Tommy has been far better than given credit for his entire career and now he gets one last shot to go down in history as one of the greats. I like it and I'm setting myself up here for mockery and great disappointment. Gotta love the last month chatter counting down to kickoff.