Phil Steele Pre-Season Rankings (UPDATE USC #6)

[Old Man Mike]

For whatever it's worth {not much I feel}, Phil Steele's "method" is founded on a personal system of rating athletes as they come out of high school. Somehow he believes that these early ratings of potential translate pretty strongly into future on-field performance, even after a year or two in college should cue him to downgrading that more than he apparently does.

This is why we were always over-rated by Steele during the down years; our star-ratings were high enough that he {just like US, by the way} couldn't believe that they wouldn't show up better on the field. This tells us that his system doesn't evaluate the quality of the coaching staffs sufficiently. As examples of this: athletes like Filer or Stockton would overinflate Steele's ratings of Notre Dame, while his inability to see the difference between Weis and Kelly would further skew them.

As to USC: Steele sees those big ratings all over the field, does not take Kiffen into full account, nor the low depth in several areas. Steele is basically a numbers man more than a subtle football man, in my view.

 

[Irishnuke]

Didn't OSU give up 49 points to Indiana? Yep, they're overrated.

 

[irishfan]

Phil Steele

ND one of 14 teams that fits the "National Championship Mold" in 2013.

Steele has done well with these predictions in the past.

 

[Whiskeyjack]

Phil Steele just published an article on which teams his Power Ratings are projecting to go 12-0.

Who's ready for 'Bama v. OSU!?

 

[ACamp1900]

Phil Steele just published an article on which teams his Power Ratings are projecting to go 12-0.

Who's ready for 'Bama v. OSU!?

THing is Bama could go 11-1 and no one would give a second tought about them still being in that game... they have to lose twice (with that schedule mind you) or lose in the SEC title game...


as far as our boys go... I'd take 11-1 in a heartbeat.

 

[BGIF]

Phil Steele

ND one of 14 teams that fits the "National Championship Mold" in 2013.

Steele has done well with these predictions in the past.

Wow NW and Vandy!

Along with Stanford and ND!


Athletes that are functional students.

 

[ulukinatme]

Phil Steele just published an article on which teams his Power Ratings are projecting to go 12-0.

Who's ready for 'Bama v. OSU!?

Theres a good chance it'll happen too. OSU being in the title game is fine with me, Bama again is getting kind of stale though, need a shake up there. Bama could very well make it through their schedule with just one loss, if any. OSU's defense may not be as good since they're replacing some of their front 7, but that offense should produce and their competition is basically just Michigan if that.

 

[Whiskeyjack]

Steele just published ND's projected stats for 2013:

OFF RUSH - 152.8
OFF PASS - 294.1
OFF PTS - 28.9
DEF RUSH - 118.5
DEF PASS - 186
DEF PTS - 16.5
YPG DIFF (Nat'l Rank) - 142.3 (16)
PPG DIFF (Nat'l Rank) - 12.4 (20)

 

[ACamp1900]

Steele just published ND's projected stats for 2013:

If that comes to be you'd have to think ND wins at least 9-10 games... at least.

 

[IHateMarkMay]

If that comes to be you'd have to think ND wins at least 9-10 games... at least.

Looks like it.


buuuuut if we go old school and drive to the opponents five yard line and turn the ball over for a TD.... it might change a little.

 

[dshans]

buuuuut if we go old school and drive to the opponents five yard line and turn the ball over for a TD.... it might change a little.

PUTZ!!!

How old???

Which school???

 

[BGIF]

Looks like it.


buuuuut if we go old school and drive to the opponents five yard line and turn the ball over for a TD.... it might change a little.

If I remember correctly both the guys that turned the ball over for opponent TDs are long gone and Martin tore those plays out of the playbook.

 

[BGIF]

Steele just published ND's projected stats for 2013:

As his ND write up lists Golson at QB, I assume those numbers include Golson's arm and feet in those production numbers. On that basis I'm surprised he is only forecasting a FG's worth of scoring improvement especially when you look at ND's lack of Red Zone TD production last year.

Based on Steele's number ND would only score about 6 more TD's in '13 than in '12. Expecting Golson to go from 12 to 18 passing TD's strikes me as reasonable. But if that were the case ND's ground game would still be flat at the goal line.

If with Rees's feet, I expect the offense to have more punch due to better OLine. Likewise Tommy hits receivers in the End Zone. He could add close to 6 Passing TD's if he hit our receiver's in the Red Zone instead of their's.

We still have questions at RB, WR, TE, and OLine to be resolved but I like the potential. Koyack putting the potential joke to rest would be a positive step. I expect ND to add 7 pts to their scoring average over last year. I believe Martin and Hiestand will build on their first year together and better suit the talents of the players as a unit.

 

[phork]

If I remember correctly both the guys that turned the ball over for opponent TDs are long gone and Martin tore those plays out of the playbook.

Not a TD for sure, but it was the beginning of the end Under The Lights.

 

[arrowryan]

If they did give up 16 point a game, that would be a 4 point increase from last years 12.1 point given up a game. I don't think that happens, I think it stays around the same because I think this years defense will be better than last years

 

[Bogtrotter07]

If they did give up 16 point a game, that would be a 4 point increase from last years 12.1 point given up a game. I don't think that happens, I think it stays around the same because I think this years defense will be better than last years

I think it goes down because Purdue, and Pitt won't do as well. Of course that all depends on the garbage points Kelly is willing to give up. Also, I do think that the second defense will be better than last years.

 

[KPENN]

Bowl projections.

Phil Steele

 

[arrowryan]

USC in the Fiesta? HA!!!

 

[NDWorld247]

Bowl projections.

Phil Steele

I would love another crack at the SEC. Preferably in the NCG but the Sugar Bowl would do.

 

[phork]

Michigan vs Ole Miss in the Rose bowl. If that comes true, how lucky can the skunk bears be.

 

[ShawneeIrish]

Michigan vs Ole Miss in the Rose bowl. If that comes true, how lucky can the skunk bears be.

That was his projected Gator Bowl

 

[phork]

Oh I see. Phil needs to work on his formating his information is plentiful but poor organized.

 

[Booslum31]

If they did give up 16 point a game, that would be a 4 point increase from last years 12.1 point given up a game. I don't think that happens, I think it stays around the same because I think this years defense will be better than last years

We need our offense to control the ball like it did last year...that had a little to do with defense only giving up 12/game

 

[Bogtrotter07]

Six Big Ten teams in major bowls? With USC? Phill needs to pay the dwarfs, No way, No how, Not happenin', B.S., Full of it, Ain't noway, and Nofukin way!

 

[dshans]

So many Bowls, so much money, so little import, so little interest. Mindless, greedy clawing; over glorified conspicuous consumption.

Oh – and so much humor to be found in the corporate tie-ins and the resulting bowl game names.

 

[IrishAlum1997]

Does Phil's current projections reflect our QB situation? Still believe us to a BCS bowl?

 

[PANDFAN]

Phil Steele

#23 ND toughest 2013 schedules

 

[Whiskeyjack]

Phil Steele

#23 ND toughest 2013 schedules

That's actually the NCAA's rank. Steele ranks our schedule as the 13th most difficult.

 

[PANDFAN]

That's actually the NCAA's rank. Steele ranks our schedule as the 13th most difficult.

you're correct...i thought it was a misprint on the tweet where it said 13