Diaco to Interview for HC Jobs

[pkt77242]

This is another thing I was thinking at first ... but if they're smart, programs like that won't hire someone who hasn't proven himself as a head coach. Bob Davie and Charlie Weis are exhibit A and B on that.

And Muschamp is exhibit C and Chip Kelly is exhibit D for why it can work. Just saying. John Mackovic (Texas), Rich Rodriguez (Michigan), and Mike Sherman (Texas A&M) etc, would seem to say the opposite.

The real truth is that it is about finding the right coach. Sometimes they are a proven HC and sometimes they are not.

 

[Emcee77]

And Muschamp is exhibit C and Chip Kelly is exhibit D for why it can work. Just saying. John Mackovic (Texas), Rich Rodriguez (Michigan), and Mike Sherman (Texas A&M) etc, would seem to say the opposite.

The real truth is that it is about finding the right coach. Sometimes they are a proven HC and sometimes they are not.

Ahh, good point about Muschamp and Chip Kelly ... I guess it's not that unlikely that Diaco could get a top job right out of ND. I hope he does decide to stay at ND and hold out for one. But if he thinks a stint as a head coach will help his career, I wouldn't blame him. The advantage of going that route is that you are in control of your own destiny to a greater extent. As a DC, he only controls half the program, and even then he answers to somebody who could get in his way (not that that seems to be happening).

 

[Grahambo]

Doesn't matter if you plug Diaco's spot from within, it's a bad thing 5 weeks before the NCG. Diaco has been calling a beautiful defensive season and the way the players gush about him would be nothing short of heartbreaking (and I'm sure happiness for him).

Leaving after the season is a completely different story. Kirby Smart looking to interview for Auburn is not the same because 'Bama has two titles the past three years.

 

[IrishLax]

Replace him with Chuck if he leaves.

Yes, it's simple in the long term. You replace Diaco with Martin as DC, bring in Jeff Quinn as OC. Shouldn't be much (if any) drop off. Not concerned there.

There is absolutely positively no way that Diaco should leave the team before the game is played though. Period. It could have a devastating impact on the team as well as on recruiting... if he bolts before the game I will be really, really disappointed.

In all honesty, the administration needs to really consider doing whatever is in their power in terms of $$ to keep him around for another year or at least through the end of the season. Open the wallet and take a loss if you have to... it'll be worth it in the long run. Hell, some alum just donated near $400k to reduce ticket prices... can you imagine how much money we could raise in a "Keep Bobby D" collection???

 

[WakeUpEchoes]

Hell, some alum just donated near $400k to reduce ticket prices... can you imagine how much money we could raise in a "Keep Bobby D" collection???

It would offend Trump with how much $ alum would give.

 

[Rhode Irish]

I really doubt it will take much convincing for Diaco to stay through the NCG, if he were to take a HC job. Why wouldn't he want to finish what he started? Hell, why would his new school not want him to coach the game? It could hurt recruiting for them a little this season, but how much damage could he do in a month anyway. The pub from him coaching that game will benefit the other program more than an extra couple of weeks recruiting.

 

[Black Irish]

Does Diaco want to be the number two guy on the reigning national championship team or be HC of some mid tier school that's rebuilding after a 4-8 season? Stick around Bobby, get a fat raise, pad your resume and wait for a real plum to come your way.

 

[Irishnuke]

I really doubt it will take much convincing for Diaco to stay through the NCG, if he were to take a HC job. Why wouldn't he want to finish what he started? Hell, why would his new school not want him to coach the game? It could hurt recruiting for them a little this season, but how much damage could he do in a month anyway. The pub from him coaching that game will benefit the other program more than an extra couple of weeks recruiting.

BK left Cincy before their BCS bowl game to focus on recruiting. Why didn't he want to finish what he started?

 

[IrishMoore1]

Does Diaco want to be the number two guy on the reigning national championship team or be HC of some mid tier school that's rebuilding after a 4-8 season? Stick around Bobby, get a fat raise, pad your resume and wait for a real plum to come your way.

Gee, why would Kelly want to be the HC of a program that has struggled for over 20 years and is rebuilding after back to back 6-6 seasons.

Diaco's not going to get offered by a program that's winning 10 games a year. Otherwise the coach wouldn't be fired. However, I personally think he should wait until a big time program comes calling. BC will always be 2nd fiddle to ND.

 

[Irishnuke]

Yeah I think he gets a raise and some new job duties... If the next 2 seasons we do great I think he goes to a good program.

If it's a good program, they wouldn't be hiring a new head coach.

 

[greyhammer90]

If it's a good program, they wouldn't be hiring a new head coach.

He should turn down the Arkansas job and hope he can muscle out the head coach at Middle Tennessee State then.

 

[pkt77242]

If it's a good program, they wouldn't be hiring a new head coach.

Really? So Texas will never need to hire a new coach, or Florida isn't a good program because they just changed coaches (2 years ago)? Hell Ohio St isn't a good program then either because they just changed coaches a year ago? Oh and don't forget according to your logic ND was not a good program 3 years ago because we had to hire a new coach. SMH. Good programs still hire new coaches, sometimes they wear out their welcome, sometimes they make stupid mistakes and sometimes they make stupid hires and have to fire them and find another coach.

 

[pkt77242]

BK left Cincy before their BCS bowl game to focus on recruiting. Why didn't he want to finish what he started?

My guess is if they were playing for a National Title that Kelly wouldn't have left before the game. Slightly different situations. Having said that a DC could leave before the National Title game easier than a HC could.

 

[Black Irish]

Gee, why would Kelly want to be the HC of a program that has struggled for over 20 years and is rebuilding after back to back 6-6 seasons.

Diaco's not going to get offered by a program that's winning 10 games a year. Otherwise the coach wouldn't be fired. However, I personally think he should wait until a big time program comes calling. BC will always be 2nd fiddle to ND.

To your first point, I'm sure the reason Kelly left a BCS bowl bound Cincy was because he had the opportunity to coach at Notre freakin' Dame. Big stage, generous alumni, national fan base. He probably would've made that move if the Irish went 1-11 the previous season.

Your second point just echos my own; not all FBS programs are created equal. A move to a rebuilding BC would be bad. Diaco should wait for a better program that's in a rebuilding stage to come calling (see the Notre Dame/Brian Kelly example from above).

 

[mgriff]

Pretty sure Cooks is co-defensive coordinator for a reason like this. Diaco's stock has been rising and people realize he's incredibly intelligent and deserves a shot as a head coach. Bob Elliott looks like a more strategic move now if this comes to pass.

It's not rocket science to say that the staff knew Diaco would eventually move somewhere to become a head coach. I'm sure they would like a different time but it's the best time to take over a program, and I'm convinced that they have all the bases covered.

 

[phgreek]

I really doubt it will take much convincing for Diaco to stay through the NCG, if he were to take a HC job. Why wouldn't he want to finish what he started? Hell, why would his new school not want him to coach the game? It could hurt recruiting for them a little this season, but how much damage could he do in a month anyway. The pub from him coaching that game will benefit the other program more than an extra couple of weeks recruiting.

This makes sense...

If I'm the AD at any of the schools he has a shot at...the BEST recruiting exposure I get is if ND wins the NCG, and the guy running the unit most generally credited for the success is coming to run my program. Hell, if I'm that AD I'd even think about a bonus for Bobby to stay and finish the job...

 

[Who'saWildManNow]

If he was offered and accepted the BC job I'd think he'd get started on that part of his life asap.. But only Bobby knows..

It would also depend on the terms of agreement and whether or not he'd want to stay to coach the NC. I know ND wanted Kelly to skip Cincy's bowl and get started on keeping the recruiting class together.

BC may be a different story. Being that it's not a big time program I could see them letting Diaco determine the start date and decide what he wants to do.

I'm hoping he's looking for some interview experience.

 

[WakeUpEchoes]

This makes sense...

If I'm the AD at any of the schools he has a shot at...the BEST recruiting exposure I get is if ND wins the NCG, and the guy running the unit most generally credited for the success is coming to run my program. Hell, if I'm that AD I'd even think about a bonus for Bobby to stay and finish the job...

Counter to that is, if he leaves and we lose, the only game we lost was the game he wasn't there...

 

[Irish8248]

Counter to that is, if he leaves and we lose, the only game we lost was the game he wasn't there...

not sure as to how that is any different or negatively effects Diaco/new team... if anything it would place a brighter light on him since it woud be a major story line and we prob lost due to too many points against lol... so without him there were not the same team -- come to BC

 

[Irish To The Core]

Diaco is a great DC. We all expect he will ultimately be a head coach, but he hasn't gone anywhere yet. His lack of head coaching experience might delay the move for now, but I have to think either of those two opportunities would be pretty enticing as entry level HC positions.

If he does land one of those jobs we would lose a dynamic coach and that hurts, but I trust Kelly to find a replacement who will bring a large degree of continuity to the team. Martin or Cooks would both be great choices.

I don't think this a salary leverage issue. As far as salary goes Diaco is in for a substantial bump at Notre Dame regardless. I think he is testing the water, because eventually he wants to be a head coach and these interviews will be good experience. If he is offered the Cal job I would think that he would have to take it, even the BC gig might be too much to turn down...but again, it is too early to panic and I think we have other gifted coaches who can step up if and when Diaco leaves for a head coaching job.

 

[phgreek]

Counter to that is, if he leaves and we lose, the only game we lost was the game he wasn't there...

I guess so...Personally, I think the Ring is a tangible asset, whereas the explanation for the empty spot on his finger being "not my fault" is not...

we'll see what he does...many programs would want him right now...hoping some, or more specifically, the one, sees it my way....guy can hope

 

[NDinFL]

Personally, I just don't see it.

He has the defensive mind of the ball down pat, in a lot of different schemes....

But being the head coach, anywhere, requires a lot more than just defensive mastery..

Maybe this is just my coping with reason, but it makes little sense

Edit: my point is/was his understanding of offense isn't that far along as I can tell....

 

[IrishLion]

Personally, I just don't see it.

He has the defensive mind of the ball down pat, in a lot of different schemes....

But being the head coach, anywhere, requires a lot more than just defensive mastery..

Maybe this is just my coping with reason, but it makes a little sense

Edit: my point is/was his understanding of offense isn't that far along (at least we hope)

BK played linebacker and his first major job was as D-coordinator at GVSU. He didn't have a "developed knowledge" of offense when he became a head coach, but it seems like he did okay in regards to coaching offense, and as a head coach in general.

 

[NDinFL]

BK played linebacker and his first major job was as D-coordinator at GVSU. He didn't have a "developed knowledge" of offense when he became a head coach, but it seems like he did okay in regards to coaching offense, and as a head coach in general.

True, but BK has also been coaching 20+ more years than Diaco

 

[tko]

sick to my stomach over this today.

 

[BurningRiver]

The worst part about this isn't the possibility of losing him for next season, it's the possibility of him being gone, or at least distracted, during and preparing for the national championship game

 

[Fbolt]

BC is a major program. He really could not ask for a better gig than that.

 

[ndfi78]

BC is a major program. He really could not ask for a better gig than that.

Cal > BC

All day, everyday

 

[Sweetness34]

BC is a major program. He really could not ask for a better gig than that.

BC is NOT a major program. They are a stepping stone program. Not a place you stay at forever.

 

[Sweetness34]

The worst part about this isn't the possibility of losing him for next season, it's the possibility of him being gone, or at least distracted, during and preparing for the national championship game

I don't see BD being the type of person that would be distracted preparing for a NC game. Putting his all into it and winning it will only help him recruit better at any job he chooses to take, if that's what he does.