Who is likely next?

[NDdomer2]

BK got him to stay though so that kind of counts.

We'll allow it.

 

[ThePiombino]

BK got him to stay though so that kind of counts.

We'll allow it.

Lmao!

 

[GBdomer]

Nddomer love what your doing with that today lol. Change your name to the judge or something

 

[NDdomer2]

Nddomer love what your doing with that today lol. Change your name to the judge or something

or

 

[GBdomer]

Judge Judy

 

[NDdomer2]

This is my favorite one.

 

[Old Man Mike]

Not a "who's next post", but at least on the topic of 2014 recruiting: as many of us have been carping about, we see a deficit in D-Line numbers for the 2014 season after Big Lou And Stephon go. More worrisome is the specific deficit in "jumbos" [NTs and DEs who can slide in a play DT like KLM and Tuitt]. My reading of the board seems to indicate that most IE posters now believe this and are aware of the need. So, what does 2014 look like in this area?

1). 247 has 27 jumbos on their list. Ten of these are in the top 50, showing the general advanced value of such players. One more is at 59, and then there is a marked gap to 103 and on down. Whether this is anywhere close to reality, who knows, but the top rated players are usually pretty good bets. Both #1 and #2 are jumbos, by the way.

2). On these top eleven, Kelly has done his due diligence. Three of them were already committed [FSU, FL, WI]. Two others are interested only in SEC, mainly Bama. Of the other six, Kelly offered all of them.

3). Of the six offered, three seem to have no interest at all. Two of the others are at least interesting enough to keep in touch with [Andrew Brown and Nifae Lealno] if they have the other ND quality stuff. Lealno surely must as he is a Stanford lean. One of these elite six favors Notre Dame and Michigan. This is Malik McDowell, the 24th rated player. McDowell is 6'6" and 265 as a junior, and could be the next coming of Stephon Tuitt. He could turn out to be our most important recruit in the whole cycle. There is of course loads of time for things to change.

4). Of the other 16 jumbos in the 247 list, there are three offers and one guy listed as visiting. [Peyton Newell]. Of the three other players offered, all show top interest in Notre Dame. Jay Hayes is 6'5" and 270 [rated #114], Andrew Trumbetti is 6'5" and 250 [rated #194], and Enoch Smith is 6'2" and 263 [rated 228]. Trumbetti and Smith seem to favor us over anyone else. Hayes has Michigan in his set of 4 preferred schools.

5). If McDowell and Hayes and Trumbetti and Smith all wanted to come, my prejudices would be to take all four of them. Smith seems built like an Ian Williams and McDowell [as said] like a Stephon Tuitt. Trumbetti and Hayes could both develop into SDE/DTs. This would restock the area of deficiency our team has, and perhaps not only McDowell but others could help right away, as they appear to be that good.

6). Should we, God forbid, strike out on two or more of these guys, Scout lists six other DTs ranked either 3* or NR, who have significant interest in Notre Dame. Since these are juniors we're talking about, there is a lot of time for one to several of them developing into elite jumbo monsters. These guys' last names are Nnadi, Mustipher, Harris, Dziak, Khoury, and Saunders. Bama is interested in Mustipher and Harris; Michigan is interested in Dziak and Khoury, for instance, so these are apparently really good prospects.

I haven't yet done my analysis of likely number of scholarships available, but unless that number is REALLY low, I think that I'll stick with my idea of four jumbos. I expect no one to agree with this, but maybe the board will think 3 not out of the question.

 

[Rack Em]

4). Of the other 16 jumbos in the 247 list, there are three offers and one guy listed as visiting. [Peyton Newell]. Of the three other players offered, all show top interest in Notre Dame. Jay Hayes is 6'5" and 270 [rated #114], Andrew Trumbetti is 6'5" and 250 [rated #194], and Enoch Smith is 6'2" and 263 [rated 228]. Trumbetti and Smith seem to favor us over anyone else. Hayes has Michigan in his set of 4 preferred schools.

5). If McDowell and Hayes and Trumbetti and Smith all wanted to come, my prejudices would be to take all four of them. Smith seems built like an Ian Williams and McDowell [as said] like a Stephon Tuitt. Trumbetti and Hayes could both develop into SDE/DTs. This would restock the area of deficiency our team has, and perhaps not only McDowell but others could help right away, as they appear to be that good.

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I haven't yet done my analysis of likely number of scholarships available, but unless that number is REALLY low, I think that I'll stick with my idea of four jumbos. I expect no one to agree with this, but maybe the board will think 3 not out of the question.

I think we have a very good shot at Hayes. Check out his profile.

I'm not too worried about DL recruiting yet. If we continue to win at a comparable rate, guys will take notice, just like this year. Robinson and Treadwell are really good examples this year. Both looked to be cooling on ND and now have some renewed interest.

Even though we're looking at a small class, I agree completely that we should take 4 DL next cycle. I also wouldn't be opposed to taking 4 OL given our depth issues (i.e. Nichols, Prestwood, Carrico).

 

[Irish2155]

Hayes is all aboard, nice timing Old Man Mike

 

[Rack Em]

I think we have a very good shot at Hayes. Check out his profile.

Less than an hour after I post this...

 

[CanadalovesND]

SPeaking of Hayes.......

HE IS IRISH!!!!!

 

[ResLife Hero]

Hell yes! I'm completely on board with taking 4 DL, and this man is a monster.

 

[connor_in]

Less than an hour after I post this...

OK...you guys are just getting freakin' SPOOKY

 

[Old Man Mike]

Even a blind pig will find the hole in the fence occasionally.

 

[Whiskeyjack]

Hell yes! I'm completely on board with taking 4 DL, and this man is a monster.

We should be averaging 3 DL per class when we're at ideal depth. With our current DL depth, one could even argue for taking 5-6 DL (depending on if Tuitt goes pro early) in 2014.

 

[NDhoosier]

I think it would only cause more problems down the road if we take 5-6 Dlinemen in an 18 man class. I say 4 Dlinemen and if a top tier 5th wants to jump on, take him... but I think 6 is entirely too many and may cause another position to lose out on a needed body.

 

[OrlaNDomer]

With Hayes on board I would still take any of the following who want in (in this order):
1 Malik McDowell
2 Andrew Williams
3 Andrew Trumbetti
4 Enoch Smith

 

[Rack Em]

With Hayes on board I would still take any of the following who want in (in this order):
1 Malik McDowell
2 Andrew Williams
3 Andrew Trumbetti
4 Enoch Smith

You take all 4 of those and never look back no matter how big the class is.

 

[Irish Man3]

You take all 4 of those and never look back no matter how big the class is.

No doubt. Big get today. With one on board, I hope ND can pull in a couple more studs on both sides of the trench.

That OL prospect from Florida (name escapes me; Cole maybe) seems like a realistic shot at our first stud on the OL.

 

[Whiskeyjack]

I think it would only cause more problems down the road if we take 5-6 Dlinemen in an 18 man class. I say 4 Dlinemen and if a top tier 5th wants to jump on, take him... but I think 6 is entirely too many and may cause another position to lose out on a needed body.

I wasn't suggesting we should or would take that many in one year. I mentioned it to illustrate how many DL we need to get back to ideal depth.

 

[dublinirish]

Jason Sapp ‏@BGI_JasonSapp

#NotreDame close to offering nation's top junior FB and Texas commit Daniel Gresham? (VIP) Notre Dame interested in 2014 FB Daniel Gresham #Irish via @BGI_WillBiggers

Does the Age of the Full Back at ND returnth?

 

[IrishSpartan]

Does the Age of the Full Back at ND returnth?

different position

 

[Jebediah Springfield]

Irish Hosting Underclassmen

 

[yankeeND]

Could be Cole, Byrne, or Trumbetti. I think we will do very well in 14'!

 

[Rizzophil]

I'm going with J Byrne. OL from Ohio. Choosing between us and OSU.

 

[Irishman77]

Hopefully adoree Jackson and brandan Dawkins will get visits from the staff out west.

 

[Irish_irish]

Do we definitely take Byrne this early? Smaller class next season and supposedly we've already told Snodgrass to wait out so the staff can go for prospects who are higher on their board.

I know that situation is a bit different as we already have a WR committed in '14 but with the momentum behind the program at the moment and a number of highly rated '14 OL interested was just wondering if anyone feels this may be a possibility?

 

[yankeeND]

Do we definitely take Byrne this early? Smaller class next season and supposedly we've already told Snodgrass to wait out so the staff can go for prospects who are higher on their board.

I know that situation is a bit different as we already have a WR committed in '14 but with the momentum behind the program at the moment and a number of highly rated '14 OL interested was just wondering if anyone feels this may be a possibility?

I would take him, think he will be a good one. I think at minimum we take 3 OL but could be 4 if its the right 4.

 

[CanadalovesND]

Youve gotta take 3 or 4 OL every class, and this kid is pretty highly rated. If he wants to commit, let him, welcome aboard with open arms!

 

[Fawwaz]

Andrew Trumbetti. I'm surprised he hasn't pulled the trigger already.

I also support Trumbetti..would be waiting to do amazing things done by him..