'14 NJ CB Jabrill Peppers (Michigan Verbal)

[BeauBenken]

How old is the interview? If Stanford is his top team, this is definitely a winnable recruiting battle.

 

[IrishEyesAreSmiling]

If we got Peppers and Clifton Garrett......

 

[ND NYC]

Ironman:
any local background on jabril in terms of our chances; relationship with shumate; why he ever left bosco; relationship with muhammad etc.
been wanting this kid since watching him play on TV as a freshman when he dominated vs BC.

 

[NDdomer2]

Solid practice field in the background.

 

[rtrn2glory]

Jabrill Peppers has Michigan near the top

 

[Jebediah Springfield]

Rivals.com Football Recruiting - Class of 2014 First Five-Stars: Jabrill Peppers

 

[Kaneyoufeelit]

Rivals.com Football Recruiting - Class of 2014 First Five-Stars: Jabrill Peppers

Kid is such a stud

 

[Ironman8]

Another kid with a great head on his shoulders - thinking Pre-med or Business initially. 60+ scholarship offers as a junior is insane.

Jabrill Peppers Can Do It All

 

[ND NYC]

Diaco:
GO.
GET.
HIM.

ironman you hearing anything with the dbp connnection, north jersey rumor mill?
are we in this? is mich the team to beat here?

 

[Ironman8]

Diaco:
GO.
GET.
HIM.

ironman you hearing anything with the dbp connnection, north jersey rumor mill?
are we in this? is mich the team to beat here?

We are in it, but if you asked to if he winds up at ND right now I would regretfully have to say no. Long way to go though, and he is close with Shumate. He grew up a Michigan fan, and is being heavily recruited by Ohio St., Stanford and the SEC. Will be a really hard pull.

 

[GoldenIsThyFame]

It is funny to see how OSU recruits. They literally smother these kids and send them 10+ letters a week. Works for some kids sure but I can see why many others (who have interests greater than football) get turned off by it.

 

[dublinirish]

Does his HS have a weight room? And can its location be pointed out to Robert Diaco?

 

[dublinirish]

It is funny to see how OSU recruits. They literally smother these kids and send them 10+ letters a week. Works for some kids sure but I can see why many others (who have interests greater than football) get turned off by it.

Too true, sure Urbie used to write Tebow daily love letters back in his UF days!

 

[Corry]

Too true, sure Urbie used to write Tebow daily love letters back in his UF days!

Go with what works I guess.

 

[peoriairish]

Too true, sure Urbie used to write Tebow daily love letters back in his UF days!

Still does

 

[ant80]

It is funny to see how OSU recruits. They literally smother these kids and send them 10+ letters a week. Works for some kids sure but I can see why many others (who have interests greater than football) get turned off by it.

And you know this how...?

Urban has consistently pulled many highly recruited players in his days at Florida and tOSU. I'm sure he has far more success than just a hit-or-miss type recruiting strategy that you are implying should indicate. For the 2014 class, we are in on a LOT of great players. Can't be consistently pulling players like this with the above-mentioned strategy.

 

[IrishLax]

And you know this how...?

Urban has consistently pulled many highly recruited players in his days at Florida and tOSU. I'm sure he has far more success than just a hit-or-miss type recruiting strategy that you are implying should indicate. For the 2014 class, we are in on a LOT of great players. Can't be consistently pulling players like this with the above-mentioned strategy.

Are you kidding me? Do you even bother reading? It was based off a direct quote in the article where Peppers mentioned that's literally exactly what they're doing.

Hunter Bivin mentioned something similar. So did Logan Tulley-Tillman.

Inundating someone with attention to show desire is a tried and true strategy of recruiting in all sports. I dunno what you're up in arms about here. It's effective but can also turn off some kids.

On another note, really odd to me that he grew up a Michigan fan unless he had some sort of family connection. I've seen a lot of kids recently from he eastern seaboard who say they grew up Michigan fans... is that because their families moved away to a stronger economic climate? Similar thing happened with people from Pittsburgh moving to DC many years ago when things started slowing down there... now any Skins-Steelers game is about 50% terrible towels.

 

[IrishLax]

I would say anywhere but Michigan... but with us dropping them soon... anywhere but Stanford?

 

[Sherm Sticky]

Are you kidding me? Do you even bother reading? It was based off a direct quote in the article where Peppers mentioned that's literally exactly what they're doing.

Hunter Bivin mentioned something similar. So did Logan Tulley-Tillman.

Inundating someone with attention to show desire is a tried and true strategy of recruiting in all sports. I dunno what you're up in arms about here. It's effective but can also turn off some kids.

On another note, really odd to me that he grew up a Michigan fan unless he had some sort of family connection. I've seen a lot of kids recently from he eastern seaboard who say they grew up Michigan fans... is that because their families moved away to a stronger economic climate? Similar thing happened with people from Pittsburgh moving to DC many years ago when things started slowing down there... now any Skins-Steelers game is about 50% terrible towels.

I believe Shumate also grew up a Michigan fan.

You have to remember in the Tri-State area there is no college program, except for Rutgers, to root for. When these kids were growing up Michigan was good under Loyd Carr and were on T.V. a lot, especially in the East Coast.

 

[dublinirish]

also you have to remember that they are flip-all michigan people in the university of michigan. unless you count UM-Flint

 

[GoldenIsThyFame]

And you know this how...?

Urban has consistently pulled many highly recruited players in his days at Florida and tOSU. I'm sure he has far more success than just a hit-or-miss type recruiting strategy that you are implying should indicate. For the 2014 class, we are in on a LOT of great players. Can't be consistently pulling players like this with the above-mentioned strategy.

Are you kidding me? Do you even bother reading? It was based off a direct quote in the article where Peppers mentioned that's literally exactly what they're doing.

Hunter Bivin mentioned something similar. So did Logan Tulley-Tillman.

Inundating someone with attention to show desire is a tried and true strategy of recruiting in all sports. I dunno what you're up in arms about here. It's effective but can also turn off some kids.

This^

Want proof?
Hunter Bivin, OL Recruit, Gets Lots of Ohio State Letters

 

[jerboski]

He's really into Michigan so going to be a tough pull but if we continue to win and Michigan flops next year then we could be in the driver seat. His mom is all about academics so I think we have a great shot but I think it depends alot on how Michigan does at the end of the year and next year.

 

[Whiskeyjack]

He's really into Michigan so going to be a tough pull but if we continue to win and Michigan flops next year then we could be in the driver seat. His mom is all about academics so I think we have a great shot but I think it depends alot on how Michigan does at the end of the year and next year.

Then UM's a pretty poor choice for Peppers. They only graduate 59% of their African-American athletes. Not sure how any parent could overlook that statistic.

In fact, Michigan's not even in the top 20 for any of the three Football ROI rankings. Really tired of the skunkbears trying to tout their academics.

 

[rtrn2glory]

doesn't ann arbor have a pretty good pre med program too? atleast they have a phenomenal hospital that i know of.

 

[jerboski]

Then UM's a pretty poor choice for Peppers. They only graduate 59% of their African-American athletes. Not sure how any parent could overlook that statistic.

In fact, Michigan's not even in the top 20 of any of the three Football ROI rankings. Really tired of the skunkbears trying to tout their academics.

Yeah, I'm sure Coach Kelly and staff will mention this to him but every time I read an update on him regardless of site, Michigan is the name that is mentioned as the favorite. Based upon the latest article from BGI, Peppers seems to be a very diligent, responsible student so I am sure he will know all the facts before making a decison including our 100% African American graduation rate plus I have to believe him having legitimate interest in Stanford shows he is truly being honest about academics being important so that helps our cause.

 

[Emcee77]

And you know this how...?

Urban has consistently pulled many highly recruited players in his days at Florida and tOSU. I'm sure he has far more success than just a hit-or-miss type recruiting strategy that you are implying should indicate. For the 2014 class, we are in on a LOT of great players. Can't be consistently pulling players like this with the above-mentioned strategy.

Are you kidding me? Do you even bother reading? It was based off a direct quote in the article where Peppers mentioned that's literally exactly what they're doing.

Hunter Bivin mentioned something similar. So did Logan Tulley-Tillman.

Inundating someone with attention to show desire is a tried and true strategy of recruiting in all sports. I dunno what you're up in arms about here. It's effective but can also turn off some kids.

I agree with Lax, not sure why you are offended, ant80. GITF never said the strategy wasn't effective; just that it doesn't work on everybody. That's true of every recruiting strategy. Some kids will like the attention, probably most, but others will start to feel like they are being manipulated.

On another note, really odd to me that he grew up a Michigan fan unless he had some sort of family connection. I've seen a lot of kids recently from he eastern seaboard who say they grew up Michigan fans... is that because their families moved away to a stronger economic climate? Similar thing happened with people from Pittsburgh moving to DC many years ago when things started slowing down there... now any Skins-Steelers game is about 50% terrible towels.

At first it was odd to me that that strikes you as odd ... but now that I think about it, maybe it is odd. Growing up in VA I had a number of friends who were big Michigan fans. I guess I don't know why. Some of these people were in the critical fanhood-formation stage of 10-15 years old during the early 90's, when Michigan had the Fab 5 in hoops and won an NC in football. Some, like Peppers, were younger though, so I'm not sure where the Michigan fanhood came from. I guess I just think of Michigan as a school that has a national following. Did people from other parts of the country know Michigan fans growing up? Now I'm curious.

 

[Jebediah Springfield]

In Ca, I know of a few young people that became Meatchicken fans during that Fab 5 and Lloyd Carr era.

 

[Whiskeyjack]

On another note, really odd to me that he grew up a Michigan fan unless he had some sort of family connection. I've seen a lot of kids recently from he eastern seaboard who say they grew up Michigan fans... is that because their families moved away to a stronger economic climate? Similar thing happened with people from Pittsburgh moving to DC many years ago when things started slowing down there... now any Skins-Steelers game is about 50% terrible towels.

At first it was odd to me that that strikes you as odd ... but now that I think about it, maybe it is odd. Growing up in VA I had a number of friends who were big Michigan fans. I guess I don't know why. Some of these people were in the critical fanhood-formation stage of 10-15 years old during the early 90's, when Michigan had the Fab 5 in hoops and won an NC in football. Some, like Peppers, were younger though, so I'm not sure where the Michigan fanhood came from. I guess I just think of Michigan as a school that has a national following. Did people from other parts of the country know Michigan fans growing up? Now I'm curious.

Nate Silver touches on this in this article: a big reason that OSU, PSU, and UM are the most popular programs in the country is because they're huge public universities that graduate 10-18k newly-minted hardcore fans every year. Many of those fans promptly move elsewhere, so you can find significant pockets of them in almost any major city.

 

[IrishLax]

Nate Silver touches on this in this article: a big reason that OSU, PSU, and UM are the most popular programs in the country is because they're huge public universities that graduate 10-18k newly-minted hardcore fans every year. Many of those fans promptly move elsewhere, so you can find significant pockets of them in almost any major city.

This is a good point, but I think it has to go deeper than that. Penn State is huge out here because it's actually on the east coast and tons of kids from MD, NJ, VA, NY go there and then come home. It's a very above-average school so many a person will opt to go there over Maryland, Rutgers, Virginia Tech, etc.

But a larger contingent are people with absolutely no affiliation to the university who just grew up in Pennsylvania rooting for the Nittany Lions and then moved to the DMV to find jobs. This migration of sorts seemed to start decades ago when steel mills started shutting down.

I wonder if recent downturns in manufacturing in Michigan/Ohio have had a similar migratory effect. It's not like there is a super robust economy anywhere west or south of Michigan... you're probably best off getting on 80/90 east and driving until you reach the land of "Government never stops printing/spending money." That's at least my theory. When you look at people like Blake Countess, Peppers, etc. I don't think they were the progeny of Michigan alumni.

 

[Whiskeyjack]

But a larger contingent are people with absolutely no affiliation to the university who just grew up in Pennsylvania rooting for the Nittany Lions and then moved to the DMV to find jobs. This migration of sorts seemed to start decades ago when steel mills started shutting down.

I wonder if recent downturns in manufacturing in Michigan/Ohio have had a similar migratory effect. It's not like there is a super robust economy anywhere west or south of Michigan... you're probably best off getting on 80/90 east and driving until you reach the land of "Government never stops printing/spending money." That's at least my theory. When you look at people like Blake Countess, Peppers, etc. I don't think they were the progeny of Michigan alumni.

Regarding the exodus of graduates from those three schools, I was going to make a comment about the midwest being a frozen wasteland bereft of economic opportunity, but figured it might offend some people here.