Why can't we rush the field?

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I'm not against not rushing the field against certain situations, but having the ND hierarchy actively preventing it even against "big" opponents is just absurd.
 

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I'm not against not rushing the field against certain situations

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And I'm telling you buddy, EVERY school tells their fans not to rush the field, and everyone brings out security guards. That's the point. You rush past them. Sure two people get tackled but everyone else just runs past. 80,000 fans can't be stopped.

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So why do you think the field should have been rushed when ND beat UM last weekend? ND was favored to win and ND was ranked higher.
 
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I'm going to catch flak for this, but rushing the field against UTAH is really weak (and IDC if it was senior night). It just shows how down we've been in the last 10 years.

I don't remember if the field was actually 'rushed' in the sense that I'm thinking of it (so if it wasn't, treat my premise as a hypothetical... rushing the field against #12 Utah is WEAK).
 

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It wasn't rushed in the traditional sense where most of the stands emptied into the stadium. IIRC it was a lot of students and crowd in the surrounding area that actually went down the wall to celebrate on the field.
 

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Its good it doesn't happen here. It is a liability for the university and players.
 

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All i know is if someone else gets on field i want on too. I don't care if its after a loss.
 

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I'm going to catch flak for this, but rushing the field against UTAH is really weak (and IDC if it was senior night). It just shows how down we've been in the last 10 years.

I don't remember if the field was actually 'rushed' in the sense that I'm thinking of it (so if it wasn't, treat my premise as a hypothetical... rushing the field against #12 Utah is WEAK).

Dude, that was my senior night. The class of 2011 has the WORST RECORD IN NOTRE DAME HISTORY. That season was full of turmoil and tragedy. The football team needed that, our Senior class needed that, and the school needed that.

Weak my ***.

I'm pissed.
 
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Its good it doesn't happen here. It is a liability for the university and players.

Rubbish. If they ever beat a #1 team, or win a game to finish 12-0 (guaranteeing a national championship), my *** is storming that field. You know how memorable that'd be for the players?
 
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Dude, that was my senior night. The class of 2011 has the WORST RECORD IN NOTRE DAME HISTORY. That season was full of turmoil and tragedy. The football team needed that, our Senior class needed that, and the school needed that.

Weak my ***.

I'm pissed.

I understand the team was down and that was the year of the Sullivan tragedy (right?), but it was UTAH (who just came off of a 40-point beating). And apparently they didn't actually rush it as we view 'rushing the field', so it's moot.

Sorry if I offended you, I just don't think any of us want ND fans rushing the field for a win over UTAH to be how this decade of Irish football is remembered.
 
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I'm rushing the field if we beat Stanford at home.

Pics or we won't believe you! Lol.

But seriously, if they get their ***-whooped tonight, are you still doing that? Cause that was the Utah game.
 

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I understand the team was down and that was the year of the Sullivan tragedy (right?), but it was UTAH (who just came off of a 40-point beating). And apparently they didn't actually rush it as we view 'rushing the field', so it's moot.

The whole crowd didn't rush, you're right. But the students definitely did. Ushers were helping students down after they figured out we weren't stopping.

Yeah I understand it was "UTAH". I was there. Crist got hurt, we lost to Tulsa, ESPN was all over campus blaming Brian Kelly for what happened to Declan Sullivan...

You ever had a bad day, something good happens, and it relieves all the stress associated with that day? Yeah? Well think about 3 weeks of that for the football program and 4 years of that for my class. It sucks watching your friends lose to Navy and break a 40+ year streak, it sucks getting screwed at Michigan St in 2010, it sucks getting beat by Michigan 2 years in a row in the last minute, it sucks watching a ND grad get fired, it sucks watching Golden Tate leave school early...I'll spare you the rest.

Finally, for once, our class and our football team had a break through. Finally we had a glimmer of hope. Finally we had our time.

I don't really care what anybody here thinks about "rushing the field against lowly, **** ant Utah". I was the last person to leave the stadium the night we beat Utah. The ushers literally pushed me out. It wasn't a pretty 4 years, but it was a God damn good way to go out.

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Sorry about that rant. Kuehnja, nothing personal at all bro. I just get defensive about that season.
 
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Sorry about that rant. Kuehnja, nothing personal at all bro. I just get defensive about that season.

No worries my man! It was actually good to hear it from your perspective. Changes mine a bit.
 

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It's Notre Dame. Who in the hell could we beat that would be that amazing?........ I don't believe there's anyone we can't beat, so I would be a little embarrassed by that.

florida state in 1993 would have been one of those games (but i dont think the field was rushed then either, cant remember)
 

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I want to rush if we beat stanford (and both are undefeated). That would be the biggest win in the best 10 years (or so >_>).
 
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I want to rush if we beat stanford (and both are undefeated). That would be the biggest win in the best 10 years (or so >_>).

But if Stanford goes undefeated, we'll both likely be a top-10 team. Therefore it shouldn't be a big shocker if we win. Why rush?
 
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I want to rush if we beat stanford (and both are undefeated). That would be the biggest win in the best 10 years (or so >_>).

Ok, but only if Teo scores a game-winning TD as time expires and Tommy Rees knees a security guard.
 

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florida state in 1993 would have been one of those games (but i dont think the field was rushed then either, cant remember)

ND had won 16 in a row BEFORE the FSU game. They were 38-7-1 over the past 4 season heading into that game. The double digit wins in 3 ofd the 4 years. The only 9 win season came with Rocket's KO TD run against #1 UC,as time expired, was nullifed by a BS penalty.

ND fans expected a win - every game.

The Class that graduated that year experienced 8 defeats in 4 years, never more than 3 in a season. Six of those losses were to ranked team. Most were by less than a 6 point difference. 14 wins were over ranked teams.

Rack em's Class was 24-26. They never experienced a 9 win season but they did suffer through a 9 loss season.

Utah was 8-1 and ranked. The student body had experienced a tragedy that touched all of them.

Hooray for Rack 'em and the rest that rushed the field in celebration with their teammates on the field.
 

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Yeah, it was mentioned earlier, but the students did rush the field in '05...only to be sent back off as the PAC 10 refs robbed us. It was a sad sight, never will forget seeing that clock hit 00:00 the first time.

I understand the implications and liability with fans rushing the field, but they're going to do it anyway if it's a big enough win. You can't stop the masses with 50ish ushers spread out.
 

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I must have missed this thread earlier, because a few of my favorite football experiences have been when I went on the field. Everyone can define their own "standards" for what is worthy of rushing on the field, but it is a blast to celebrate with your friends and the team on the field. Was on the field for the last ND night win versus Michigan 20 years ago and a couple of other times in Columbus (wife is a major Buckeye fan). Every time being on the field celebrating with players as they beat Michigan. Doesn't get much better than that.
 

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Dude, that was my senior night. The class of 2011 has the WORST RECORD IN NOTRE DAME HISTORY. That season was full of turmoil and tragedy. The football team needed that, our Senior class needed that, and the school needed that.

Yep. In retrospect it may not seem like much, but that Utah win was huge at the time. First win over a ranked opponent pretty much in those students/players' entire careers. After all the off-the-field awfulness of that season. I remember watching on TV feeling so happy for those seniors. Didn't matter one bit that Utah had been stomped by TCU the week before.
And college football's about passion, not Risk Management. If it's a truly big win - regardless of the rankings involved - why not?
 

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There may be a rule/fine but I've never heard mention of it.

Bearman v. Notre Dame mentioned in my previous posts does apply exposure to all schools, legally.



N.B. For the record I'm neither an attorney nor have I played one.

I am an attorney, but I just deal with corporate tax stuff so this is not a professional opinion: that Bearman lady sucks and is probably why you're not allowed to cheer at Notre Dame games without risking being thrown out.

As you point out, any precedent from that case would apply to all schools equally, so Notre Dame seems to have overreacted. Anyways, if you don't want to be around drunk college kids you should stay away from big-time college football games.

The idea that frail old ladies would be catered to and the students that spend money to go to school - and indirectly fund the whole operation on some level - aren't allowed to enjoy themselves like all of their peers throughout the country is ridiculous.

PLUS, I believe that old lady was run over outside of the stadium. What in the world does that have to do with kids rushing the field? Seems to me that the more drunk kids are on the field, the less there will be outside the stadium running over Betty White.
 
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Kinda understandable I guess with Washington rushing the field, their program is in a similar spot as ours was two years ago /w Utah.
 
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