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If I'm an NFL scout, I'd like to see him do it 2 years in a row before I took him with a top pick.

You probably should add to If I'm an nfl scout who just happens to be a rabid irish fan I'd like to see him do it 2 years in a row....
 

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Mike at ISD thinks Tillery is a 2nd round pick this year. Point is, he's a day 2-er.

Caleb Brantley (Florida) was the 15th DT taken overall in the 2017 NFL draft as the 1st selection in the 6th round. Using that as a guide, Tillery wouldn't be selected in the first 4 rounds as he's no better (or as good as) Brantley was or any other DT drafted in front of Brantley at this stage of his college career. Tilley definitely needs to return to ND next year, IMHO.
 

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Caleb Brantley (Florida) was the 15th DT taken overall in the 2017 NFL draft as the 1st selection in the 6th round. Using that as a guide, Tillery wouldn't be selected in the first 4 rounds as he's no better (or as good as) Brantley was or any other DT drafted in front of Brantley at this stage of his college career. Tilley definitely needs to return to ND next year, IMHO.
Pretty sure Brantley had a DV investigation and character concerns holding him back though. I'm all for Tillery returning, but I think it'll come down to the grade he's given by the advisory board.

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Pretty sure Brantley had a DV investigation and character concerns holding him back though. I'm all for Tillery returning, but I think it'll come down to the grade he's given by the advisory board.

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And it will have to be a better grade than most cuz Terry likes playing him some school.

He's a lil geeky which is why I was shocked when he didn't hang out with ole Crusader in the hotel lounge on New Year's '16 opting instead to go out with Max to Old Town Scottsdale looking for some ASU trim.
 

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You probably should add to If I'm an nfl scout who just happens to be a rabid irish fan I'd like to see him do it 2 years in a row....

No, that's not fanspeak. Tillery has been very good this year. He should stay and further develop his body/technique and prepare himself as well as he can to enter the league.

The players who stayed one extra year before bolting have all been successful to varying degrees and most of the players who jumped early have had mixed success.

There are players like Tuitt and Tate who you knew had a distinct athletic advantage and then there are players like Troy Niklas who would've benefitted from another year. Hell, Tuitt would've most likely made a lot more money in his first contract if he came back one more year and increased his performance.

I wouldn't say the same for Adams because he has the production and if he gets graded high enough, I think he should bolt (even though I'd love to keep him another year). Same thing with Q and anyone else who has performed well enough to be near their peak.

I don't think Tillery has peaked, I think he's finally tapping into his wellspring of physical gifts.
 

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No, that's not fanspeak. Tillery has been very good this year. He should stay and further develop his body/technique and prepare himself as well as he can to enter the league.

The players who stayed one extra year before bolting have all been successful to varying degrees and most of the players who jumped early have had mixed success.

There are players like Tuitt and Tate who you knew had a distinct athletic advantage and then there are players like Troy Niklas who would've benefitted from another year. Hell, Tuitt would've most likely made a lot more money in his first contract if he came back one more year and increased his performance.

I wouldn't say the same for Adams because he has the production and if he gets graded high enough, I think he should bolt (even though I'd love to keep him another year). Same thing with Q and anyone else who has performed well enough to be near their peak.

I don't think Tillery has peaked, I think he's finally tapping into his wellspring of physical gifts.

I 100% agree, but was joking about the fanspeak part....what ND fan doesn't want Tillery back. Hell I want Q back
 

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Tillery will be back. He's still got a lot of upside to develop, and like Crusader said, the guy sure appears to love being a college student. NFL will still be there next year (if he doesn't pull a Steve Elmer and retire at age 22).
 

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I’m going with Wilkins. Corner from Florida

67% sure that he will be next
 

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I’m going with Wilkins. Corner from Florida

67% sure that he will be next

That's the smart money.

If they offer Kory Taylor he commits on the spot but Micah Jones has his offer most likely.

After this weekend it falls back to the Bracy, Boykin, Crim trio
 

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what off the field issues does he have that would give him problems as an NFL player?

Nothing I can substantiate. There are stories out there.

Don't mean to give such a weak response. You can PM me, if you'd like.
 

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Nothing I can substantiate. There are stories out there.

Don't mean to give such a weak response. You can PM me, if you'd like.
Well he did stomp on a guy's head

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what off the field issues does he have that would give him problems as an NFL player?

He appears to recognize that there's a big world out there beyond football. Some teams will hold that against him, say he's not fully committed. That's a bigger sin in the NFL than most felonies.
 

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He appears to recognize that there's a big world out there beyond football. Some teams will hold that against him, say he's not fully committed. That's a bigger sin in the NFL than most felonies.

I think a lot of people forget that when Terry Jillary had his recruiting visit, he wanted to meet Father Ted. That should tell you all you need to know about the kid.

As far as development, he would better his stock by coming back and playing as good or better than this year. Except for QB where one hot year can get you taken early, scouts want to see that you weren't a one year wonder. Now that teams know who you are and game plan for you, how do you react?
 

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Maybe HH really likes him?

If anyone on our coaching staff has earned the benefit of the doubt for scouting talent, it's Hiestand. I'd be cool as a cucumber if he took a handful of 2-stars.
 

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To be fair, how many 3-star players has HH turned into a stud?

Nick Martin is the most obvious one. We haven't recruited many 3-star OL for him to coach up, honestly.
 

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Loy also thinks we may flip a corner committed elsewhere but not at liberty to say. And it's not Taylor or Boykin. Let the guessing game begin.
 
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