Who do you want to replace Brian Kelly?

[spoonidentity]

I thought Trace Armstrong was BK's agent.

He is indeed BK's agent...he also represents, wait for it...Les Miles...

 

[BGIF]

I'm not sure, but i think if a coach thought he wouldn't be here next year he wouldn't be buying a new boat. That's what happened today.

Viking Funeral Tomorrow

 

[loomis41973]

No he's buying it so ND can row the boat!

PJ Fleck confirmed!

THAT is some funny stuff. +1

 

[Domina Nostra]

Any shot we can pull Kiffin from Bama to HC?

He's doing great with a roster made up of 5 straight Top 2 classes, at a school with no admission standards for athletes, that fields a perennial top 5 defense. That is excellent preparation for winning at ND. And to boot, he's a real class act. Sign me up.

 

[ScooterIrish]

Kelly and the DC at LSU might not be the best in the SEC but it would be pretty good.

It would be average because BK is an average coach. His run game is garbage. His play calling is hit or miss (and usually miss in the second half). If LSU settles for BK, the LSU AD should be fired and all ND fans should send him a gift basket.

 

[Irish#1]

My point is that your song has grown tired. You're repeating the same sorry thought over and over again. You have literally added NOTHING new to the conversation. We get it - you want BK gone. Do you really need to say it in EVERY SINGLE THREAD on this board?

Yes I did enter multiple BK threads. Funny how you're the only one who's coming across as obnoxious on a site that is riddled with otherwise obnoxious posters. Quite the feather in your cap.

Hahahahahahahaahahahahah. Literally have no idea what you are talking about. This is the saltiest and saddest post I have ever seen on this site.

Name 5 threads where I post "obnoxiously" about BK. Go ahead, I'll wait for the posts you find in "every single thread." I post primarily in BK Revisited and this thread. That's pretty much it. Check yo self.

Whether you want to admit it or not, you are angry about the season and the football team and are trying to take it out on me. Direct your anger at the right person.

When kmoose has turned on the coach but you haven't, you know you are on the wrong side of the aisle.

As I follow-up, I literally STARTED the conversation. Just absurd that you accuse me of adding nothing. I actually chuckled in my office just now at how salty you are.

You two kids stop, or it's "go to your room with no lunch."

 

[irishff1014]

It would be average because BK is an average coach. His run game is garbage. His play calling is hit or miss (and usually miss in the second half). If LSU settles for BK, the LSU AD should be fired and all ND fans should send him a gift basket.

That's your opinion.

 

[Irish#1]

Where's the Kelly/LSU thing coming from? Was it speculation that all the talking heads ran with, or is there legit info/rumor out there? I saw mention of a link to legit info earlier in the thread, but I did not see the link.

Also, Kelly is a hot topic everywhere right now. A few UC peeps mentioned trying to get him back if he's fired. I laughed it off, because there were bridges mutually burned between Cincy folk and BK, and of course he'd have his pick from quite a few Power 5 jobs. But the guys I was talking to became insistent that BK back to Cincy at some point "wouldn't be surprising to a few heavy hitters."

Usually I would not post info like the above from what I hear at UC functions, but I find it to be so far-fetched, despite how sure the guys sounded, that it's hilarious to me that we want BK gone, while his name is attached to so many different situations and rumors to save other programs.

BK to Cincy would be a step back for him. Even when he won at UC it wasn't considered a major force to be reckoned with. UC is like a lot of other programs that step up for a couple of years then float back down to their normal level. Would his ego allow it?

I'm not sure, but i think if a coach thought he wouldn't be here next year he wouldn't be buying a new boat. That's what happened today.

Boats have trailers.

If BK were to take another job, then there are no worries about lingering buyouts. If he were to be let go, then there will be a buyout, but it won't be something massive like Charlie's. Remember, Jack is a lawyer. I have to believe he wrote the contract to keep any buyout for termination to a minimum, with it being reduced when BK lands another position.

While no coach on his own accord has left ND for another position, there's always a first time. This is a new era. College football is a former shell of itself. Coaches come and go everywhere all the time. Would this tarnish the Golden Domes image? Maybe for a week or two, then it's all forgotten when the new coach is hired.

 

[SavIrish]

Yeah, players receiving impermissible benefits under your watch and then lying about it to the NCAA is pretty inconsequential. Sure.

Like I said it is a hurdle the ND brass has to be comfortable with, but the consequences of is actions have been fulfilled, IMO, with the 6 years of exile he has just completed.

 

[Classic Irish]

Like I said it is a hurdle the ND brass has to be comfortable with, but the consequences of is actions have been fulfilled, IMO, with the 6 years of exile he has just completed.

If you don't think that would be an insurmountable hurdle for the ND brass, then I don't know what to tell you. Don't forget his history with the NCAA goes back to his days as HC at Youngstown State. ND is not going to hire someone with that kind of history. Period.

 

[SavIrish]

I'm not sure, but i think if a coach thought he wouldn't be here next year he wouldn't be buying a new boat. That's what happened today.

Does anybody else see this as a huge problem? Our coach is having one of the worst seasons in ND history and is buying a boat before the end of it??? This offseason for Kelly shouldn't involve anything except making sure next season is a homerun and I don't see how being on the water for a little fun in the sun can help with that....The optics just look real bad.

Lou Holtz once said he would never hire an assistant that had golf clubs in the trunk of his car....but now our head coach is buying a boat for the offseason!!

 

[SavIrish]

If you don't think that would be an insurmountable hurdle for the ND brass, then I don't know what to tell you. Don't forget his history with the NCAA goes back to his days as HC at Youngstown State. ND is not going to hire someone with that kind of history. Period.

I hear ya, I don't think it insurmountable but I can see why you and/or the ND brass would....just wouldn't dismiss the possibility as fast as you without really giving it a close look

 

[GATTACA!]

Does anybody else see this as a huge problem? Our coach is having one of the worst seasons in ND history and is buying a boat before the end of it??? This offseason for Kelly shouldn't involve anything except making sure next season is a homerun and I don't see how being on the water for a little fun in the sun can help with that....The optics just look real bad.

Lou Holtz once said he would never hire an assistant that had golf clubs in the trunk of his car....but now our head coach is buying a boat for the offseason!!

Maybe he's going to use the boat for recruiting, do it Minnesota Viking style.

 

[kmoose]

It would be average because BK is an average coach. His run game is garbage. His play calling is hit or miss (and usually miss in the second half). If LSU settles for BK, the LSU AD should be fired and all ND fans should send him a gift basket.

Please don't make the mistake of assuming that "time has run out for Kelly at ND" is the same as "This guy is an @sshole who sucks! EVERYBODY PILE ON!!"

 

[irishff1014]

Does anybody else see this as a huge problem? Our coach is having one of the worst seasons in ND history and is buying a boat before the end of it??? This offseason for Kelly shouldn't involve anything except making sure next season is a homerun and I don't see how being on the water for a little fun in the sun can help with that....The optics just look real bad.

Lou Holtz once said he would never hire an assistant that had golf clubs in the trunk of his car....but now our head coach is buying a boat for the offseason!!

He is just like everyone else. Maybe he go one hell of a deal on it that he couldn't pass up.

He is just like every other Human out there. When up keep going over the same thing time and time and time again you eventually have to clear you mind just to see that you were completely over looking the smallest detail.

 

[ScooterIrish]

Please don't make the mistake of assuming that "time has run out for Kelly at ND" is the same as "This guy is an @sshole who sucks! EVERYBODY PILE ON!!"

I'm not sure what you are trying to say. I think Kelly is an average coach and has so shown so in 7 years at ND. People act like losing to Navy or Duke or [insert bad team] is something that has just happened this year. Outside of 2012 and 2015, that's been the case every year. What year was it that Navy blew him out because they ran the veer? What year did he lose to Northwestern? What year did he say that he couldn't rush against Purdue because of their defense and putting 7 guys into the box and it might be the best defense faced all year - it was the year Wisconsin rushed for like 300+ yards the next game against Purdue. He's average.

If I wanted to pile on, I would point out that he is a jerk and let a kid die at practice.

 

[gkIrish]

I'm not sure what you are trying to say. I think Kelly is an average coach and has so shown so in 7 years at ND. People act like losing to Navy or Duke or [insert bad team] is something that has just happened this year. Outside of 2012 and 2015, that's been the case every year. What year was it that Navy blew him out because they ran the veer? What year did he lose to Northwestern? What year did he say that he couldn't rush against Purdue because of their defense and putting 7 guys into the box and it might be the best defense faced all year - it was the year Wisconsin rushed for like 300+ yards the next game against Purdue. He's average.

If I wanted to pile on, I would point out that he is a jerk and let a kid die at practice.

 

[greyhammer90]

If I wanted to pile on, I would point out that he is a jerk and let a kid die at practice.

Negged.

 

[Irishize]

I'd throw Greg Schiano on a list of candidates for ND to look at. Like LSU wanting an offensive minded HC, I think ND needs a defensive minded coach. Granted, he would need to bring on a proven OC, but I'd give the guy a hard look.

 

[CIrishWin]

I'd throw Greg Schiano on a list of candidates for ND to look at. Like LSU wanting an offensive minded HC, I think ND needs a defensive minded coach. Granted, he would need to bring on a proven OC, but I'd give the guy a hard look.

What if he keeps all the offensive assistants that we have now. After next year of course cause BK will be back.

 

[arrowryan]

This is my short list if/when Brian Kelly leaves or is fired

1.) Tom Herman
2.) Urban Meyer (wishful thinking, I know)
3.) Bob Stoops
4.) Chris Peterson
5.) Les Miles
6.) PJ Fleck

 

[zelezo vlk]

This is my short list if/when Brian Kelly leaves or is fired

1.) Tom Herman
2.) Urban Meyer (wishful thinking, I know)
3.) Bob Stoops
4.) Chris Peterson
5.) Les Miles
6.) PJ Fleck

Les Miles is an offensive minded head coach whose offenses have been trash for years. He's also in his 60s. If we're going that route, I'd rather have Cutcliffe.

Several posters on ISD say that Fleck will not make it past the vetting process. This is just not a great year to need a new HC.

 

[greyhammer90]

Several posters on ISD say that Fleck will not make it past the vetting process.

I'm guessing intern issues?

 

[zelezo vlk]

I'm guessing intern issues?

Off field activities. I like McIntyre from Colorado. Or see if any of the NFL coaches get canned and are looking.

 

[calvegas04]

good thing ND won't be looking for one this year

 

[zelezo vlk]

good thing ND won't be looking for one this year

It's one of the main reasons why I think that giving BK another year isn't the worst thing in the world. I try to keep track of all coaching candidates in CFB and the NFL, and there's a real scarcity of good candidates year for both levels. Let BK get a good DC and regroup for next year. If he fails, then that's one less year of the buyout you need to worry about, and if he succeeds then that's exactly what we want. However, I don't want BK in 2018 if he doesn't win at least 10 games next year. His DC better recruit too, because that's a pivotal class, whether it be for Kelly or most likely, his successor.

 

[Dizzyphil]

Watching the presser for U$C..... seems like BK is already letting everyone know ND has little chance of winning.

 

[Irish#1]

I'm not fan of getting an NFL coach unless he's been a HC at the collegiate level before. Many don't realize the time and effort required to recruit, the headaches dealing with school administration and all of the outside obligations that come with the position.

 

[Irish#1]

Watching the presser for U$C..... seems like BK is already letting everyone know ND has little chance of winning.

He's a defeated man that's lost his compass.

 

[Dizzyphil]

He's a defeated man that's lost his compass.

Sounds like it - especially in his body mannerisms.