Who do you want to replace Brian Kelly?

[phgreek]

He almost left Utah like year and a half ago so...

And people said the same thing about Bronco Mendenhall. And now he's at freaking UVA.

count me among those who thought Bronco was there for the duration...really good guy, loved a place that didn't love him back...I guess he found some LDS folks to hang with in VA...IDK.

I wanted the guy for NDs d-coordinator who replaced Bronco as HC at BYU...Kilane Sitake...oh the polynesian pipeline...our Dline...oh how I wish. Guy recruits hard, coaches with great passion...Had Kelly gotten Sitake after Diaco...man at a minimum the Dline would be deep and brutal, and the pass rush would exist against top tier teams.

He would have left for the BYU job before '16 season, but the program would have been far better, IMHO for having had him.

BVG decision will haunt this program for years to come...SMH.

 

[Sherm Sticky]

count me among those who thought Bronco was there for the duration...really good guy, loved a place that didn't love him back...

Why do you say that? Is it known that BYU didn't like Bronco? Was it his personality? His win/loss record? His coaching style? Etc...



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[kmoose]

I've been thinking about it more all morning and if we got Les + Dave Aranda and kept Sanford and Heistand we could bring in some monster recruiting classes on both sides of the ball. We would run the ball a lot more and be better on special teams too.

Honestly could be pretty damn good.

Except that our QB(Sanford) seems to have fallen off of the map. And our Offensive Line (Heistand) doesn't look like they could open holes against most FCS teams, let alone FBS. If you want to keep one of them as a Recruiting Coordinator, for their prowess there, then that's one thing. But to retain them both, given the serious questions around their units, seems kind of dumb.

 

[irishtrain]

I don't think Kelly is going anywhere- still think he's a great coach- but if you were to replace him I'd go with the guy at Navy-I'd run that offense with a Tony Rice type QB and rely on Notre Dames prestige to get a top flight defensive coach in to attract 3/4 star talent that wants to excel. The modern Notre Dame program (of today) can not compete with the semi pro teams of the upper tier without a better plan than they have now. Run the option play solid defense and the admn can keep its academic profile for athletes where they want it. He could bring in the same type player but another level of talent that Notre Dame can offer. I think he'd do a great job and his players would be aggressive and a little bit shall we say on the edge of the rules. Man it would be great to see a downright nasty Notre Dame football team again.

 

[phgreek]

Why do you say that? Is it known that BYU didn't like Bronco? Was it his personality? His win/loss record? His coaching style? Etc...



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Couple things...Bronco was not loved by the media. He, at times, had a rather Bill Belichick way about him at times. As they went into being independent, he struggled to win a number of big games, and the fan base failed to notice they weren't playing a straight mountain west schedule anymore.

Don't get me wrong...he is well respected, and appreciated for the first 6 or 7 years, but things got tenuous the last few with fans starting to turn a bit, and the media kinda pilin' on.

My personal opinion is that he will never surpass Edwards in terms of popularity, but he was a better day in and day out coach. That is saying something.

In time he'll be missed, and remembered for saving the program...because he did. But now, the best thing he did was go to VA.

 

[calvegas04]

I think if he didn't take the Southern Cal job he would take the ND job?

no

I could see him at ND, he probably thinks sucks like the rest of the world

 

[BGIF]

He almost left Utah like year and a half ago so...

And people said the same thing about Bronco Mendenhall. And now he's at freaking UVA.

Mendenhall left BYU because of BYU's leaving a conference to go independent.

What pushed Bronco Mendenhall away from BYU and toward Virginia?
Paul Myerberg , USA TODAY Sports 12:56 p.m. EST February 22, 2016

The lack of conference affiliation impacted the program’s national standing: BYU was ranked in the final Amway Coaches Poll four times in its final five seasons in the Mountain West Conference, but just once in its five years as a Football Bowl Subdivision independent.

Bronco Mendenhall on why he left BYU for Virginia: Independence isn't 'sustainable' | The Salt Lake Tribune
Jay Drew
First Published Feb 22 2016 12:18PM

In the news conference held outside his office at BYU when he announced he was leaving the school after 11 seasons to become the head football coach at Virginia, Bronco Mendenhall downplayed his dissatisfaction with BYU's football independence as one of the major reasons why he chose to leave.

But in an interview with USA Today's Paul Meyerberg published on Monday, Mendenhall acknowledged it played a more significant role in his decision than he originally let on.

"I don't think it is sustainable," Mendenhall said of independence, echoing what he told The Tribune in a one-on-one interview last spring. "I was trying everything I knew how to do to advance and pioneer that part. If I were to be really blunt about it, I took it as far as I could go in relation to that setting of independence. After all that and setting all that foundation and direction, there became a point where it was guardian, custodian of that direction — where it was, I'm not sure now if I'm one supposed to be doing that here."

 

[irishandy]

I don't think Kelly is going anywhere

Kelly is not going anywhere, nor should Kelly be let go. In year #7 this is his first losing season and the sky is falling on Irish Envy.

For all of you wanting Les Miles I'd give him 1-2 good years here at Notre Dame and the sky would again start to fall.

Kelly's fate is who he hires as a defensive coordinator, I'd say go out and get Charlie Strong...yes Charlie Strong. He has ties in TX for recruiting (1 of the top 3 states for recruiting), he is a better coordinator than a HC at a big time program IMO, and he's been here before.

I would keep Greg Hudson on the staff for next year, stats show that our defense has done better, I like the energy that the defense shows, but I want an experienced DC. I also question keeping Booker for next year, our special teams have regressed & the TE has been MIA (although Kizer has missed them multiple times being open on short passes).

I've said it once and I'll keep saying it; the only guy I would go after is Chris Petersen of Washington.

Don't worry though...ND will go out and get Urban when they feel they need to.

 

[Polish Leppy 22]

This thread is 1 year away from being relevant. BK will start 2017 as head coach.

 

[NDRock]

This thread is 1 year away from being relevant. BK will start 2017 as head coach.

If we lose today and get blown out against VT and USC (a possibility) then I don't see him surviving, no matter what Jack has said.

 

[kmoose]

If I'm Swarbrick, my conversation with Kelly goes something like this.

"Brian, I know that the offensive issues have been caused by all of the time that you have had to spend on the defensive side of the ball. There's been good progress on defense, but it's obviously not where it has to be. So here's the deal: You need to bring me a home run Defensive Coordinator hire, or we are going to have to move in a different direction. The offense obviously needs you to be a full time offensive coach. So I need you to find someone who can field the kind of defense we need. If you can do that, then it will free up your time to spend with the offense and we will be fielding a championship caliber team. If you can't do that, then I am going to be forced to find someone who can."

 

[BobbyMac]

If I'm Swarbrick, my conversation with Kelly goes something like this.

"Brian, I know that the offensive issues have been caused by all of the time that you have had to spend on the defensive side of the ball. There's been good progress on defense, but it's obviously not where it has to be. So here's the deal: You need to bring me a home run Defensive Coordinator hire, or we are going to have to move in a different direction. The offense obviously needs you to be a full time offensive coach. So I need you to find someone who can field the kind of defense we need. If you can do that, then it will free up your time to spend with the offense and we will be fielding a championship caliber team. If you can't do that, then I am going to be forced to find someone who can."

Is that how it works?

 

[kmoose]

Is that how it works?

I'm guessing that the Head Coach probably recruits the guys he wants, and then the AD actually hires them. Just like most Coordinators get to bring in their choice for position coaches, I would think that the HC gets to choose his coordinators, under normal circumstances.

 

[rocket66]

If we lose today and get blown out against VT and USC (a possibility) then I don't see him surviving, no matter what Jack has said.

Agreed. I even think a 1-2 finish seals BK's fate. Done deal if he gets blown out in the final 2.


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[IrishLax]

Agreed. I even think a 1-2 finish seals BK's fate. Done deal if he gets blown out in the final 2.


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I strongly disagree. I don't think he gets fired even if he loses all three... unless there is a premium coaching itching to come here, which is lol to consider. The boosters can't just eat $25mil to go spend $5mil/year on some other unproven commodity.

 

[BobbyMac]

I strongly disagree. I don't think he gets fired even if he loses all three... unless there is a premium coaching itching to come here, which is lol to consider. The boosters probably won't eat $25mil to go spend $5mil/year on some other unproven commodity.

FIFY

Also, is it public or rumored knowledge that the buyout is 100% of face? What about the possibility of any poor performance clauses which may be triggered this year?

 

[IrishLax]

FIFY

Also, is it public or rumored knowledge that the buyout is 100% of face? What about the possibility of any poor performance clauses which may be triggered this year?

I don't know exactly what the buyout is. It is definitely large though, from talking to boosters who would know because they have to foot the bill.

 

[Number3rockin]

Terrible coaching/hires, last part of 2015 into 2016 4W-8L. I'd put a bow on Kelly's buyout...

 

[NDRock]

Agreed. I even think a 1-2 finish seals BK's fate. Done deal if he gets blown out in the final 2.


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I strongly disagree. I don't think he gets fired even if he loses all three... unless there is a premium coaching itching to come here, which is lol to consider. The boosters can't just eat $25mil to go spend $5mil/year on some other unproven commodity.

I wonder what the number is they will eat. Do we have to wait three years until it gets down to $10 million?

 

[kmoose]

I wonder what the number is they will eat.

5-7?

 

[Luckylucci]

I'm guessing that the Head Coach probably recruits the guys he wants, and then the AD actually hires them. Just like most Coordinators get to bring in their choice for position coaches, I would think that the HC gets to choose his coordinators, under normal circumstances.

I'd agree. If you are going to keep Kelly after this disaster of a season, then you are probably giving him a chance to fix the situation on his own. If you're an AD and you are going to take the hiring of coordinators from your HC, then you should probably fire that coach. That's JMO, though.

 

[dad4aa]

I'd agree. If you are going to keep Kelly after this disaster of a season, then you are probably giving him a chance to fix the situation on his own. If your an AD and you are goin to take the hiring of coordinators from your HC, then you should probably fire that coach. That's JMO, though.

Agree with this 100%

 

[IrishLax]

I wonder what the number is they will eat. Do we have to wait three years until it gets down to $10 million?

I think it's more the whole "money doesn't grow on trees" thing where their discretionary spending is a bit tapped out from Crossroads, etc. and no one was saving money to buyout the coach heading into this year. I think they'll be prepared next year to cut him loose if they need to.

 

[Number3rockin]

But if our coach sucks, then he probably isn't winning. If not winning, cash flow will certainly will take a hit. Bring Kelly back and still suck(probable), lose tons of money. Buy him out, new excitement, same old sell outs with cash rolling in.

 

[gkIrish]

I think a loss today could easily push the timeline forward.

 

[NDRock]

I think it's more the whole "money doesn't grow on trees" thing where their discretionary spending is a bit tapped out from Crossroads, etc. and no one was saving money to buyout the coach heading into this year. I think they'll be prepared next year to cut him loose if they need to.

Gotcha. How is Crossroads being funded?

 

[NDgradstudent]

I don't know exactly what the buyout is. It is definitely large though, from talking to boosters who would know because they have to foot the bill.

Swarbrick was a damned fool to extend Kelly. We should assume he doesn't know what he is doing until he proves otherwise.

 

[koonja]

The hard working Dexter Williams comes in for one carry on the goal line, on a shitty horizontal run play, gets a 1st down, and gets pulled out. Classic BK.

 

[GBdomer]

Our next DC is shutting out Lamar Jackson at home

 

[Meatloaf]

The DC board should be Mike Elko #1 then everyone else a distant second. Wake is currently pitching a shutout against Lamar Jackson and Louisville. Really impressed with what he gets out of a bunch 2 and low 3 star players.

Edit: GB beat me to it haha.