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I'm interested in another issue with an extremely thin theological base, but a very "bad look" for the Church. Recently the Church has declared that there can be no gluten-free hosts consecrated and presented as Eucharist (I can't believe that Francis agreed with this, and that this is one of the myriad of things that he can't "police" in his Vatican.)

The bottomline on this is that it essentially decrees (among other things) that if you want to receive Holy Communion in the traditional form of hosts, you have to endanger your health. (I know three people at my parish who are VERY gluten-intolerant --- two are good friends: one a 50-year veteran nun, and the other a former police officer now deacon. Neither are whiney wimps.) Any counterarguments that you could always just skip by the hosts and drink the wine (there is a gluten issue there too) are nearly irrelevant, as the receiving of the host in the Communion line is the standard and psychologically comfortable way to participate in the Eucharist (I live with a priest as one housemate, and he nearly went through the roof at this insane micro-minded act, which places an unnecessary barrier to getting Communion to as many people as possible... think homebound if nothing else, but in my mind it's some barrier regardless.)

To make this sort of thing as poor a look as possible, these characters also recently ordered the priesthood to use only Chalices made of Gold or Silver. Incredible. Wonder what Jesus The Carpenter used? I am hoping that Francis can get enough time to counter these faith-poor idiots, possibly canning/demoting some of them too, while retracting these barrier forming micro-doctrines. Do these clowns think that Peter and the boys used Gold chalices? "Tradition" is apparently a fluid concept.
 

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To make this sort of thing as poor a look as possible, these characters also recently ordered the priesthood to use only Chalices made of Gold or Silver. Incredible. Wonder what Jesus The Carpenter used?

Even Indiana Jones got that one right.
 

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I'm interested in another issue with an extremely thin theological base, but a very "bad look" for the Church. Recently the Church has declared that there can be no gluten-free hosts consecrated and presented as Eucharist (I can't believe that Francis agreed with this, and that this is one of the myriad of things that he can't "police" in his Vatican.)

The bottomline on this is that it essentially decrees (among other things) that if you want to receive Holy Communion in the traditional form of hosts, you have to endanger your health. (I know three people at my parish who are VERY gluten-intolerant --- two are good friends: one a 50-year veteran nun, and the other a former police officer now deacon. Neither are whiney wimps.) Any counterarguments that you could always just skip by the hosts and drink the wine (there is a gluten issue there too) are nearly irrelevant, as the receiving of the host in the Communion line is the standard and psychologically comfortable way to participate in the Eucharist (I live with a priest as one housemate, and he nearly went through the roof at this insane micro-minded act, which places an unnecessary barrier to getting Communion to as many people as possible... think homebound if nothing else, but in my mind it's some barrier regardless.)

To this point, I don't know much about what's going on but on the surface this seems rather odd. I have family with Celiacs disease and this seems like a way to separate people from the Eucharist. I'd be interested in the reasoning behind it because I hadn't heard this.

To make this sort of thing as poor a look as possible, these characters also recently ordered the priesthood to use only Chalices made of Gold or Silver. Incredible. Wonder what Jesus The Carpenter used? I am hoping that Francis can get enough time to counter these faith-poor idiots, possibly canning/demoting some of them too, while retracting these barrier forming micro-doctrines. Do these clowns think that Peter and the boys used Gold chalices? "Tradition" is apparently a fluid concept.

Again, haven't heard this. But why is this a bad thing? If we, as Catholics, believe in the Real Presence of Christ in the Eucharist, then what is the problem with having a vessel fitting for God? This has nothing to do with "what Jesus the Carpenter" used or whether "Peter used a Gold chalice." It has everything to do with reverence for what occurs during the Consecration and during Holy Communion.

Giving God our best and forcing us to think about those parts of the Mass is absolutely not a reason to get "people canned." Tradition doesn't dictate what materials should be used for the Chalice as it has nothing to do with the Faith. It's a practice that shows an appropriate level of reverence to God's presence in the Eucharist, which is a fundamental cornerstone[/QUOTE] of Catholicism.
 

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Here's a WaPo article discussing it:
  • The recent statement was just a reiteration of longstanding policy. Nothing was changed.
  • The Church has long mandated that low gluten hosts be made available for Celiacs, and mustum for those intolerant of alcohol.
  • In faithfulness to Christ's teaching, the Eucharist must be actual bread and wine. The accidents and substance involved matter. Anything that is completely gluten free isn't bread, and therefore can't be transubstantiated.
  • Odds are good that the majority of people at Mike's parish (as at most American parishes) are presenting for communion each week unworthily. I'd be much more concerned about what that means for the state of their immortal souls than about some non-existent discrimination against those with a rare disease.
 

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To piggyback off Whiskey, I've heard from a few celiacs/family members of celiacs that they talk to their priest about their health condition. The priest will likely consecrate a separate chalice for those who need it, thereby eliminating the chance of contamination.
 

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1). Hosts: some BS about unleavened bread leading to a modernistic pseudoscientific definition of what true "bread" is, and ignoring the changes which have occurred in wheat strains over the centuries, and that other forms of "bread" have been used in many places and many times (including the South Pacific where their "bread" was sweet potatoes and hosts were made of that, plus Jesus using whole loaves and literally breaking it up, etc etc). All this as if removing the gluten somehow lessens the legitimacy of GOD transubstantiating, or stops Jesus from doing so --- meditate on that for a moment. Is that not more like Witchcraft recipe-mongering than Faith?

2). Chalices: how arrogant do we have to be to pretend that we somehow either limit GOD's approval or add to HIS glory by using Gold? Gold probably has more evil attached to it via greed than any other substance, and certainly does not "please" GOD more than any of HIS other creations. Does anyone actually think that Gold is "better", and especially more "spiritual", than other substances in GOD's eyes? ALL properly honored vessels are appropriate to GOD --- GOD's not looking for a golden luxury spot to rest his blood in (I mean REALLY --- anthropomorphizing GOD and thereby limiting Him?) Adding the very negative connotation that is attached to Gold via wealth vs poverty (and the Church being accused of hypocrisy exactly on that point) I find no argument remotely justifying this. --- And do people know that new priests usually have to buy their own chalices? Yeh, another minor stroke vs a poor priest there.

How small must our Faith be to think that GOD is not in charge here and that the depth happening is between HIS clear perception of each of our thoughts and intentions, and not some materialistic hangups about definitions of "bread" and containers of precious metals? If Cardinals need to micromanage according to their materialistic hangups, they lack Faith. If people need to think that they receive more favor with GOD by using Gold, then they lack Faith. Both are wrong theologically anyway.
 

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Whiskey's remark:

I wonder if there's any thought to the proposition that the "state of one's own immortal soul" that we all might be presenting at communion presents "unworthily"? My reading of theology is that none of us are "worthy" and that it is GOD's Divine Mercy which allows us the gifts resident in the sacrament. We do not EARN sanctification by our human works --- and there is no simplistic (or complicated) RECIPE for salvation.

So yes. My parish presents itself unworthily. So does yours. So do you.

You say that I read your posts "uncharitably." Look in the mirror. Long distance judgmental remarks on others' states of their souls is a fair example of lacking charity.

As to the Gluten business being "irrelevant." Your view. I know regular people and priests who view it far from irrelevantly. As to something not being truly bread --- outrageously unscientific. Define BREAD scientifically. Then tell me why the current host-making bread is bread and the past "bread" will fail that precision, as will, by any deduction, what Jesus used. Who says that "gluten" is an absolute defining property of "bread"? I wonder if you know what sort of wheat grown under what circumstances all the hosts are produced from ... and whether batches in Rome are the same PRECISELY as those in Arizona or those in Samoa? I'll bet that I could take them into the lab and find that none of them was precisely alike. And if you single out Gluten as the crucial ingredient that eliminates something from "bread", why only that?
 

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Whiskey's remark:

I wonder if there's any thought to the proposition that the "state of one's own immortal soul" that we all might be presenting at communion presents "unworthily"? My reading of theology is that none of us are "worthy" and that it is GOD's Divine Mercy which allows us the gifts resident in the sacrament. We do not EARN sanctification by our human works --- and there is no simplistic (or complicated) RECIPE for salvation.
That's not what he means. He's not talking about "worthy of the Kingdom," he's talking about the stain of mortal sin.

"Go to confession" is all he's saying.
 

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Why's that being brought up in a discussion about gluten? (if not to disparage others' spiritual imperfections while remaining aloof on one's own?

I'd ask you the same question? Got your act completely together? If not, get the beam out first, then blast into others you don't know.
 

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Ross Douhat on the Francis Papacy. Since I beat Whiskey to post, not only an article about Catholicism, but one by Ross Douhat, I'll collect my reps as you all see fit.

No link to article, didn't carry forward formatting or internal links, and failed to remove advertisement. 4/10, no rep earned.

Whiskey's remark:

I'm traveling right now and cannot respond properly from my phone. Until next week.
 

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As to the Gluten business being "irrelevant." Your view.

It's not "my view", Mike. It's the Church's. Since the earliest days of Christianity, the Patristics were deeply concerned about the integrity of altar bread out of a desire to be as faithful to Jesus as possible. Specifications for acceptable altar bread were included in the earliest versions of canon law, and have remained largely unchanged through the ages until today's Canon 924.

I know regular people and priests who view it far from irrelevantly. As to something not being truly bread --- outrageously unscientific.

Take it up with the Magisterium, Mike. If empiricism is your standard, there are few aspects of the faith you can't justify dissenting from.

So yes. My parish presents itself unworthily. So does yours. So do you.

As wizards pointed out, I was referring to 1 Cor 11:27-29:

27 And therefore, if anyone eats this bread or drinks this cup of the Lord unworthily, he will be held to account for the Lord’s body and blood.
28 A man must examine himself first, and then eat of that bread and drink of that cup;
29 he is eating and drinking damnation to himself if he eats and drinks unworthily, not recognizing the Lord’s body for what it is.

Only 12% of Catholics confess at least once per year. But at my parish, the vast majority of the congregation presents for communion every Sunday. One doesn't have to be a rigid Pharisee presuming to know the state of others' souls to infer that most of our co-religionists are presenting unworthily.

That, along with mass apostasy, the collapse of religious vocations, the extent to which we've largely vacated the mission field, and the rapid decline of most of our extra-ecclesial institutions are all causes for genuine concern. Not so with the #FakeNews about the Catholic requirements for altar bread. Then Cardinal Ratzinger, in his capacity as head of the CDF, approved the use of low-gluten hosts for those with Celiac disease (and mustum for those intolerant of alcohol) in a 2003 letter. Canon 912 states quite forcefully that "Any baptized person not prohibited by law can and must be admitted to Holy Communion." So if you suffer from Celiac disease or alcohol intolerance, all you have do is contact your parish office and, at least according to Church law, they are required to accommodate you with special hosts and/or wine. Not sure what else the hierarchy should be expected to do here.

Why's that being brought up in a discussion about gluten? (if not to disparage others' spiritual imperfections while remaining aloof on one's own?

I brought it up, Mike, because there are a subset of liberal Catholics within the Church that view the Eucharist not as a holy mystery that must be approached with humility and repentance, but a communal ritual that ought to be expanded to as many people as possible, lest anyone feel marginalized. The German bishops who have advocated undermining our ancient sacramental discipline for those unrepentant of the "respectable" sins of adultery, sodomy and usury are a good example. It's a terrible idea for a lot of reasons I won't launch into here, but I've probably said enough to make my position clear.

I have no idea if that's an accurate description of you or your parish. But I'm skeptical of Catholics who get exercised about the gluten content of our altar breads while remaining silent about the myriad real crises we're currently facing.
 

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Archbishop Chaput gave a speech yesterday titled "What's next: Catholics, America and a world made new". Here's a snippet from the transcript:

When young people ask me how to change the world, I tell them to love each other, get married, stay faithful to one another, have lots of children, and raise those children to be men and women of Christian character. Faith is a seed. It doesn’t flower overnight. It takes time and love and effort. Money is important, but it’s never the most important thing. The future belongs to people with children, not with things. Things rust and break. But every child is a universe of possibility that reaches into eternity, connecting our memories and our hopes in a sign of God’s love across the generations. That’s what matters. The soul of a child is forever.

If you want to see the face of Europe in 100 years, barring a miracle, look to the faces of young Muslim immigrants. Islam has a future because Islam believes in children. Without a transcendent faith that makes life worth living, there’s no reason to bear children. And where there are no children, there’s no imagination, no reason to sacrifice, and no future. At least six of Europe’s most senior national leaders have no children at all. Their world ends with them. It’s hard to avoid a sense that much of Europe is already dead or dying without knowing it.

Jake Meader just posted an article on the blog Mere Orthodoxy titled "Young Christians and the Spectre of Socialism". An excerpt:

There is a movement amongst both young Catholics and many young Protestants to go back to the sources of the western Christian tradition. Thinkers like Elizabeth Bruenig are drawing heavily from Augustine. My friend Brad Littlejohn has worked on Thomas. Others have spent extensive time in the primary sources of Catholic Social Teaching or in reading early Reformed political theorists like Althusius.

What we find when we work with these writers is that Christian reflection on political economy is far more complex than many of us were led to believe. We find things like a robust condemnation of usury, to take one example. In fact, Dante places usurers and sodomites in the same moral category because both are taking a gift that should be stewarded toward fruitful ends and are instead squandering it. We also find, in many historic Christian writers, a far more ambiguous attitude toward property rights, and even a deep suspicion of what we might anachronistically term modern-style western individualism. All of these things make us suspicious of the just-so narratives that the Christian Right often resorts to when arguing for a more libertarian or quasi-libertarian economic system. Given these concerns, it will take more than someone saying, “well, markets account for human sinfulness better than anything else so they’re the best,” which is how Dr. Rathbone Bradley opened her remarks at a recent Acton event. (I have more to say on this but will save it for later.)

Elizabeth Bruenig published an article in America titled "How Augustine's Confessions and left politics inspired my conversions to Catholicism":

Shortly before Easter 2014, my family visited me in the United Kingdom, where I was studying Christian theology. I rode the train to meet them in London, where I planned to deliver the news to dad myself. Mom already knew. Months earlier, I had requested from her a copy of my Presbyterian baptism certificate, which she located and provided without judgment, reasoning that there were worse things a young person could get up to in a foreign country than converting to Catholicism.

It was late when I made it to their hotel, where I met them in an upstairs lounge. We caught up for a little while before I mustered my courage and came out with it.

“I’m converting to Catholicism next week,” I said. “That’s when we do it: Easter.”

At first my dad did not believe me. After all, why? To them, converting to Catholicism did not seem like something I would do. Up until that point my parents had thought of me as most parents of that era likely thought of their adventurous, college-aged children: leftish, radicalized by the 2008 financial crisis, inspired by the Occupy Wall Street movement, no ally of anything establishment or retrograde. They knew I was very religious, but conversion likely made even less sense to them given my strong faith: Why mess with a good thing?

In the Beginning

I was baptized as a child in a Presbyterian church my family attended for a time, but was raised Methodist. I liked my Methodist church, though I was not ever sensitive to its doctrinal uniqueness. I knew we believed in a kind of free will before I knew what sort of theological conviction that belief ran up against. I knew we relied heavily on the Bible, though we were not as thoroughly literal as others. I knew we believed in being kind and orderly and that our pastors were learned and gentle and trusted to guide and illuminate, though each of us went alone before God.

When I left home for college many states away, I intended to keep up with my Methodist churchgoing but didn’t. Our Protestant chaplain was a profoundly humane Quaker with whom I spent a great deal of time, and in the light of our friendship I periodically attended meetings of the Society of Friends. I appreciated the authenticity and earnestness with which the Quakers pursued God and thought it appropriately humble to sit silently under the white beams of a New England meeting house and await Him.

But I was restless. In the quiet of the meeting house I would let my mind circle around threads of Scripture, moving like a spiral, inward toward meaning. But as the spiral tightened toward a kernel of truth, difficulties began to snare the lines. Already I was reading rapaciously about the histories of the biblical texts: their journeys through translation and interpretation; their auditions for the canon and those that did not make the cut; the late additions and redactions. I had not been raised to think the Bible totally bereft of metaphor or allegory, but these were problems of authority, not interpretation. Who could say what was symbolic or literal, what was historical artifact and what was currently applicable instruction?

Protestantism charges the individual conscience with many, if not all, of these interpretive duties. The trouble, as I came to see it, is that while Scripture must contain at least some meaning that is stable over time, consciences are not. Not only do individuals change over the course of a lifetime, inclining them to different (though entirely honest) interpretations; people change as cultures change. And some of those shifts in society and culture have major ramifications for how (or whether) we understand the things we read.

Truth in Charity

Take, for example, the winding historical journey of charity. The word caritas appears multiple times in the Latin text of the Bible and is usually translated into English as either “love” or “charity”; different translations of the same passages can feature either, as an attempted correction to the problem that follows.

The King James Bible renders 1 Corinthians 13:3 as “And though I bestow all my goods to feed the poor, and though I give my body to be burned, and have not charity, it profiteth me nothing.” To contemporary readers, especially those outside the Catholic tradition, that verse may seem a little odd: How is it possible to give all of your possessions to the poor without doing charity? Doing so would appear to be the very definition of charity.

But the word has changed over time. As the scholar Eliza Buhrer points out, the original term Paul used was the Greek word agape; but, inspired by Cicero, Jerome, in the fourth century, translated it into Latin as caritas. That choice, Buhrer writes, “cemented the idea that caritas would forever be associated in some way with poverty,” though it certainly bore no such inherent association in its original Latin usage.

Thanks to Paul’s use of the term agape, early Christian writers (including Augustine, who never used caritas to mean almsgiving) were very cognizant of the difference between caritas and what we would now identify as charity. But throughout the middle ages, Buhrer observes, sermons and homilies on poverty began to conflate caritas with giving itself, and though the church would always distinguish between the two uses, they blurred in the popular religious imagination.

These days, charity in popular usage refers almost exclusively to almsgiving or other activities that support people in need; the less-apt reading of caritas won out. Thus, one often hears the popular talking point among politically conservative Christians that assistance as administered by the state is not charity, because it is compulsory—an argument meant to refute Christian arguments for state-funded welfare programs. This idea draws from both senses of charity, the antique and the medieval. On the one hand it suggests there is no moral imperative for Christians to pursue a robust welfare state because the Bible actually counsels love, something that cannot be coerced; on the other, it seems to accept that the term charity itself denotes the giving of goods.

It is possible to resolve the confusion: True, love cannot be coerced, and that which is given without love is not given in the spirit of caritas; still, it is entirely possible to build political institutions that ensure humane conditions for the least of these out of caritas. In that case, the charity is not in the transmission of goods to the poor, but in the initiative to create a world where those transmissions reliably take place.

And yet, so much depends on one word and its tangled history. It seems unlikely that the average reader of the King James Bible can be expected to have researched and understood the different uses of caritas—I did not do so until graduate school—yet one would be ill-suited to grasp the full meaning of 1 Corinthians 13, not to mention the political discourse that rests on it, without having done so. We read words as we understand them, but words change over time, and so do we.

As a student, I became increasingly aware of the problems these textual knots posed for the way I had been taught to relate to God: How could I read my way to God by the light of my own conscience if I was not even entirely sure of the meaning of what I was reading, much less my ability to read it reliably? And in the course of all that confusion, as if by divine providence, a professor assigned St. Augustine’s Confessions in one of my classes.

Honest Confessions

I began to read Augustine compulsively. I devoured the Confessions and City of God, then moved on to his letters, his sermons, the Soliloquies and the Enchiridion and on and on. Some five million words of Augustine’s writings survive, and I wanted to read them all.

I loved his clarity of mind, his incredible intellect, his dazzling charisma. I loved, as a young adult, all that intensity—the strength of his feelings for God and the world, his passion. But I also appreciated the service his writings provided in terms of navigating difficult texts: Without quite knowing it, I had begun to rely on the tradition of the Roman Catholic Church.

Tradition provides a chain of provenance beginning with the original biblical texts and extending down into our present year, with scholars and clerics reading their predecessors and puzzling out how to apply their thinking about God and his people to new questions that arise with time. Instead of leaving a single conscience to the knotty business of making sense of ancient texts, the tradition offers Christians a chorus of helpful coreligionists passing down insight over time. An individual’s conscience plays a role, of course, in her own interpretation of the tradition; but the weight of time and expertise are instructive, and they whisper through space and centuries that you are not alone.

I had been persuaded that this method of dealing with interpretation and authority made sense by my experience of Judaism. Early in my career at Brandeis, my predominately Jewish college, I had the privilege of taking a class with a rabbi who approached familiar texts with an inquisitive, demanding intellect, but also the company of several hundred interpreters, whose collective thinking bore weight and balanced the affective prejudices of modern readers against those of the ancients.

College is likely when most people come into Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels, and though I had read them before I, too, found my interest in left insights into political economy refreshed around that time. And it made me all the more curious about Augustine, who seemed to speak for a manner of thinking that could critique and even reject the aspects of modernity that are corrupt without receding into sterile nostalgia or abandoning the witness of history altogether. The reasoning was just as flexible as it needed to be, and no more. It was beautiful, elegant even.

As a Protestant, I had learned that commentaries on Scripture were just that: the ephemeral striving of mere mortals, bereft of meaning in their own right, useful only insofar as they happened to be correct according to one’s own judgment. But more and more I was convinced I could not carry out a Christian life by myself. I did not want to read and draw my own conclusions; I wanted guidance, clarity, authority. God had not seen it fit to leave Adam alone in Eden, nearer to God than we are now. He needed help, and God gave it to him.

I began to see God had already done the same for me. I just had to accept it.

Change of Heart

Plenty of converts to Catholicism prize the church’s prudence when it comes to evaluating modern conditions. Because the church is a pre-modern institution, it does not take for granted many of the givens of modernity: that personal freedom ought to be endlessly maximized, for instance; that the most important goal in life is finding oneself; that politics and religion are two sharply and rightly separate spheres.

In an essay in 2005 about his conversion to Catholicism from Episcopalianism, R. R. Reno, editor in chief of First Things, wrote that “modern theology is profoundly corruptive. The light of Christ must come from outside, through the concrete reality of the Scriptures as embodied in the life of the Church. The whole point of staying put is to resist the temptation to wander in the invented world of our spiritual imaginings.”

By “modern theology” Reno means the (mostly) liberal theology that rose up after the Enlightenment to defend Christianity from its cultured critics. In those defenses, however, Reno finds a profusion of mere theories—thin lattices of argumentation constructed to prop up denominations whose commitments, if not their doctrines, are compromised. “What my reception into the Catholic Church provided,” Reno wrote, “was deliverance from the temptation to navigate by the compass of a theory.” Instead of the ephemera of ever-generating theories, Reno found he could rely on the solid pre-eminence of the Catholic Church, whose internal life is marked by striking continuity with the past.

Ross Douthat, a prominent columnist for The New York Times, described his reasons for converting in similar terms in 2014. While Douthat noted that he could “easily imagine [Andrew] Sullivan, or some of my other eloquent critics, regarding the remarriage-and-communion proposal as an ideal means of making their conservative co-religionists grow up, of forcing us to finally leave our fond medieval illusions behind and join the existentially-ambiguous, every-man-a-magisterium chaos of our liberal, individualistic, postmodern world,” he suspected a reversal on the issue of divorce and remarriage could undercut what drew many to Catholicism in the first place: a long, documented historical integrity that has withstood political and social pressure to change.

Reno and Douthat, both of them sensitive and extremely learned critics of culture, religion and politics, are also (as one might expect of those with a healthy skepticism regarding modernity) political conservatives. I, with equal concerns about many of the conditions that make up the current political and social order, am not.

Part of the reason I found Catholicism’s challenge to modernity so compelling was that it critiques aspects of our world that mostly go unquestioned, even by those who have disputes with liberalism in sexuality, marriage and so on. For me, the case in point was property ownership, the underlying question beneath all our current debates about poverty and wealth.

Early Christian writers, Augustine among them, thought deeply about the nature of creation. God made our material world, of course, but what for? Knowing what the bounty of the earth was meant to achieve would help them figure out how to use it rightly, that is, in accordance with God’s will for it and for us. In the view of the early church (and indeed, in the view of the church today), the world had been made and given to all people to hold in common to support their flourishing. “God made the rich and poor from the one clay,” Augustine wrote, “and the one earth supports the poor and the rich.”

Property entered the equation with sin. Since people could no longer be trusted to honor the original purpose and use of creation, governing authorities were able to maintain order by dividing it up. But the church remained sensitive to the pre-property purpose of creation, and with its own authority (throughout the Middle Ages, for instance, ecclesiastical courts heard many cases regarding property and contracts) and power to persuade states and subjects, it urged vigilance against the tendency of the wealthy to amass more than their due, to the detriment of the poor. Individual actors departed from the counsel of the church, of course, but never succeeded in altering its doctrine to advance their own purposes.

But that changed after the Protestant Reformation. While Erasmus and Thomas More had each been meditating on the common ownership of all things just prior to the schism, Luther and his adherents took a different approach. Reacting to the radical communitarianism of the Anabaptists, the Reformers took the view that all things ought to be held in common as a thin veil for idleness, debauchery and sloth. With their assault on the authority of the established church, they sapped the moral force from the church’s teaching on property, which was now up to each person to decide for himself; and with their remonstration against the temporal authority of the church, they appointed the regulation of property strictly to the state, which was meant to order human affairs toward sober efficiency, not some final good.

In the years after the Reformation, increasingly strongly articulated and absolute rights to private property gained ground in European thought, finally flowering into “the rights of an individual to resist the extractions of both church and state,” per British historian Christopher Pierson in Just Property. If this situation sounds familiar, it is because it is the rallying cry of almost all those who resist efforts to broaden our country’s support for its poor. Taxes, they say, are theft, and governments have no right to seek the good, only the maximal liberty of its client-citizens.

Yet the church remains firm, unmoved by this current in modernity. And while it is impossible to speak for all Protestants—and important to note there exists a vast array of opinions on property ownership within the Protestant tradition, some hewing close to the Catholic view—the Catholic Church, at least, bases its position on property in a moral universe far more stable than that which has been constructed since the Reformation. And by the time I neared the end of my time in college, I had become convinced it was the only firm ground from which a Christian could fight back against the domination of the poor by the rich, against poverty, against the destruction of families and communities at the hands of businesses and their political lackeys, against a world stripped of meaning.

Confirmation

By the time I graduated from college, I knew I was not through with Augustine. I left for the United Kingdom at the end of my first summer out of college, where I would earn my M.Phil. in Christian theology, with a focus on Augustine. I studied under an Anglican priest and Christian socialist whose reading of Augustine deepened mine, and it was somewhere between our meetings that the seed that had been planted some time earlier came to fruition. When I told my tutor I intended to convert, it seemed like something I had already put off too long.

In retrospect I do not remember my confirmation very clearly. I was confirmed during a very early Easter Vigil, around 4:00 a.m., in the Catholic chaplaincy at Cambridge University.

I walked to the chapel in the dark: it was cool and damp, and nightclubs were still releasing Saturday night’s revelers in a trickle into the streets. By the time I reached the chapel I was awake on pure adrenaline, exhausted but alert. I was electrified and dazed throughout Mass, aware enough to remember the dreamy surprise I felt when I realized a professor of mine was holding the chalice I drank from for the first time; too tired to recall what she said to me afterward when we all gathered upstairs to celebrate.

When I went home that morning it was daylight—very bright, and all the mist had warmed to dew. My friends parted ways near the chapel, and I walked home through a few little alleys that rounded gardens where light-colored roses were already in full bloom. It is in my nature to wander, and I had never seen the streets so bright and placid before, but I was too worn out to linger.

I felt changed when I arrived back at my room, though everything seemed the same: a desperate pile of books by my bedside, a stack of xeroxed papers spread over my desk and the Confessions alone on my squat nightstand. I fell asleep contented, following the shape of the letters on its spine. It felt good to rest.
 

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Matthew Walther just published an article in the Catholic Herald titled "Parish life has become insufferably middle-class":

There are plenty of things for which I thank God: good friends, the health of my children, the glorious tenth anniversary of Summorum Pontificum, the fact that the Detroit Tigers will not be trading their star pitcher Justin Verlander. Another is the fact that my wife and I were never made to attend a Catholic marriage preparation course.

If we had been members of a parish where the mind-numbingly dull half-year of expensive weekend retreats had been required, we would have gone through with it, obviously. Offering up suffering is a gift of the Holy Ghost denied even to the glorious angels in heaven.

I say this because it is only as a kind of purgative trial justly demanded of the pious faithful by Mother Church in the exercise of her disciplinary infallibility that it is possible to make sense of the six-month-long exercise in mandatory tedium known in the US as “Pre-Cana” (the mawkish reference to Our Lord’s first miracle is worthy of Hallmark). The spiritually edifying qualities of these rectory chats on subjects such as “Conflict Resolution Skills” and “Finances” are best summed up by secular interpolators at a website called BridalGuide.com:

You may be wondering, what exactly is Pre-Cana? Don’t worry … you won’t be hearing lectures about going to church every week and going to Confession. It’s more like pre-marital counselling, to help prepare you for marriage.

In our case, marriage counselling meant two 20-minute conversations with our pastor. This is as it should be. When it comes to marriage, Shakespeare’s Friar Lawrence is a model shepherd of souls. A good student of St Paul, he knows what marriage is for, which is why his first priority is the avoidance of sin, not the maintenance of community standards. Indeed, I have always found modern-day adaptations of the play implausible, because today’s Romeo and Juliet would have had to spend a considerable portion of their young lives taking quizzes on “Spirituality/Faith” and “Careers” in order to get the go-ahead from their diocese.

The way the post-conciliar Church cordons off the sacraments is a perfect example of how she has become insufferably middle-class. Working-class people and bohemian misfits like me are not community-minded. We loathe the notion of therapy, especially if it involves making small talk with people we don’t know about things that are very dear to our hearts. People with real jobs often work on Saturdays; they haven’t got time or money for couples’ weekend retreats to horse farms with Fr Dialogue.

Meanwhile, middle-class people enjoy being treated like (rather stupid) children. They like play-time and share-time and snack-time and loathe the idea of privacy; they enjoy shaking hands and holding hands, which is why their favourite parts of the new Mass are the Sign of Peace and the standing-up Paternoster. They take positive delight in these things for the same mysterious reasons that they enjoy working for those companies that require semi-annual “team-building exercises” – scavenger hunts and other pre-teen activities between mandatory presentations on LGBTQ sensitivity.

The only thing worse than current Church practice regarding marriage is the preposterous bureaucracy that prevents children from being baptised in a timely fashion. Requiring Catholic parents to take courses on the subject is ludicrous and a deathly waste of time. All that the average layman need know can be gleaned from the old Baltimore Catechism. “Baptism is a Sacrament which cleanses us from original sin, makes us Christians, children of God, and heirs of heaven.” It would be very difficult to stretch that into a four-weekend course.

A friend of mine in Texas has been waiting six months to have his daughter baptised. First he was required to take a class, even though he and his wife are on their third child. Then after wasting time over the course of several successive weekends, he was told that the girl’s prospective godparents also required instruction, despite they themselves being the parents of several Catholic children. Now he finds himself waiting for a ‘‘slot’’; apparently in some dioceses, it is expected that only a predetermined number of children – around four per weekend at most, unless it is done in Spanish; apparently this makes a difference to Our Lord – can be cleansed of original sin and initiated into the Christian faith.

This is nonsense. My older daughter was baptised when she was a week old. All I had to do to secure for Thisbe Perpetua the remission of sin and an heirdom in the Kingdom of Heaven was to call Fr H down at the rectory to let him know that my wife had had the baby (he was expecting my call: good priests know things like which of their parishioners are pregnant): “How does Saturday at eleven sound?”

That, and one piece of paper from her godfather’s parish attesting to his being a communicant, were the only requirements. He supplied the salt and the chrism and a Latin pamphlet with the Exorcízo te and all the other forgotten glories of the Roman Rite; we brought the baby. Afterwards we drank champagne.

To treat matrimony and baptism as if they were bourgeois rites of passage – like finishing secondary school or moving into one’s first apartment – is not only ugly. It is a denial of the efficacy of the sacraments.

This neatly sums up why so many young Catholic families in Phoenix turn to the FSSP parish for sacramental prep.
 

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Matthew Walther just published an article in the Catholic Herald titled "Parish life has become insufferably middle-class":



This neatly sums up why so many young Catholic families in Phoenix turn to the FSSP parish for sacramental prep.

I would 100% do that, if the FSSP set up a chapter down here. I have liked my parish so far, but was going to share a story of some of the nonsense that goes on w/r/t the bureaucracy, but Matt Walther shared the exact story. We can't proclaim a sacramental theology if we withhold Baptism like this.

There's an SSPX chapter that has Mass twice a month in South Austin; one of my friends wants to drag me along, but I'm very hesitant to do so.
 

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There's an SSPX chapter that has Mass twice a month in South Austin; one of my friends wants to drag me along, but I'm very hesitant to do so.

Your hesitancy is a healthy instinct, but there's so much nonsense going on in most NO parishes that it's hard to justify writing off the SSPX when they're the only traditional option in town. Papa Frank has taken major steps towards regularizing their status already, and that work should be completed very soon. Definitely pray about it, but I'd check it out in your position.
 

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Your hesitancy is a healthy instinct, but there's so much nonsense going on in most NO parishes that it's hard to justify writing off the SSPX when they're the only traditional option in town. Papa Frank has taken major steps towards regularizing their status already, and that work should be completed very soon. Definitely pray about it, but I'd check it out in your position.

Well I do have the TLM at the Cathedral if I prefer, but I have a fine NO Mass at my parish, provided I go to the 9:30. There are some issues, but still. If the SSPX is regularized, and they get a real parish, not just offering Mass in a Holiday Inn conference room twice/month, then I'll consider going. My friend's retelling of the SSPX priest's words though were very worrying as the priest sounds terribly uncharitable.
 

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Well I do have the TLM at the Cathedral if I prefer, but I have a fine NO Mass at my parish, provided I go to the 9:30. There are some issues, but still. If the SSPX is regularized, and they get a real parish, not just offering Mass in a Holiday Inn conference room twice/month, then I'll consider going. My friend's retelling of the SSPX priest's words though were very worrying as the priest sounds terribly uncharitable.

F that noise. Easy decision then.
 

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Why are they relegated to having Mass at the Holiday Inn? No parish or diocesan building can/will accomodate?
 

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Why are they relegated to having Mass at the Holiday Inn? No parish or diocesan building can/will accomodate?

Due to their irregular status, they have not been able to rely on the support of local dioceses for anything. Thus, the only way that SSPX or FSSP parishes come into existence and (eventually) build churches is when a critical mass of trads get together and start fund-raising for it.
 

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Due to their irregular status, they have not been able to rely on the support of local dioceses for anything. Thus, the only way that SSPX or FSSP parishes come into existence and (eventually) build churches is when a critical mass of trads get together and start fund-raising for it.

Sure. But not one single pastor in the entire diocese will even allow them to have Mass in their church? Seems a bit strange. That also seems like it could be a telling fact.
 

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Can someone give me the Sparknotes for FSSP and SSPX?

Sure. But not one single pastor in the entire diocese will even allow them to have Mass in their church? Seems a bit strange. That also seems like it could be a telling fact.

Under a deadline at the moment, so I can't address this right now, but will do so tomorrow.
 

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Can someone give me the Sparknotes for FSSP and SSPX?

The short-version: certain Vatican II documents, particularly Dignitatis humanae and Nostra Aetate, caused a lot of controversy because they seemed to contradict centuries of teaching regarding the Church's rights and its relation to other religions. Those most concerned by this apparent rupture also strongly disliked the Novus Ordo for similar liturgical reasons. Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre founded the SSPX in 1970 in protest of those changes. In 1988, Lefebvre disobeyed orders from JPII by consecrating four new SSPX bishops. JPII immediately excommunicated Lefebvre and those four bishops, but Benedict XVI lifted the excommunication for the four bishops in 2009.

When that controversy came to a head, the FSSP broke off from the SSPX, wisely unwilling to break communion with Rome. My impression is that Lefebvre's criticisms of Vatican II were largely correct, but he took some impolitic measures that damaged his legacy. Once the SSPX is fully regularized again, those parishes will be a good option; but until then, one is better off at an FSSP parish (assuming there's one nearby).

Sure. But not one single pastor in the entire diocese will even allow them to have Mass in their church? Seems a bit strange. That also seems like it could be a telling fact.

With the exception of Pope Benedict, the Church hierarchy has been pretty uniformly hostile to traditionalist movements since Vatican II, even though that's where most of our new vocations to the priesthood are coming from. As I briefly described above, SSPX has a complicated history, so I wouldn't fault any dioceses for choosing not to help them; but one also shouldn't expect that traditionalists have been dealt with in good faith either.

Why? Don't have time for posters with avatars of people of color?

I'm more worried about the state of Willie's soul than about his skin color. You might consider upgrading to St. Martin de Porres:

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"Deadlines" show your white privilege, Whiskey.

My capitalist overlords are privileged. As a humble barrister, my time is not my own.

Other items of interest from the Catholic world this week: The Catholic Herald's Ed Condon published an article titled "Why Catholics can't be Masons":

Given the crystal-clear understanding in Church teaching regarding what the Masonic plot or agenda against the Church includes (marriage as a merely civil contract open to divorce at will, abortion, exclusion of religious education from public schools, exclusion of Church from the provision of social welfare and or control of charities), it seems impossible not to ask: how many of the major political parties in the West can now be said to fall under the prohibition of Canon 1374? The answer may well be rather uncomfortable for those who want to see an end to the so-called culture wars in the Church.

More recently, Pope Francis has repeatedly spoken of his grave concern at Masonic infiltration of the Curia and other Catholic organisations. At the same time, he has warned against the Church becoming a mere “NGO” in its methods and goals – which is the direct danger of that secularist mentality which the Church has always called a Masonic philosophy.

Masonic infiltration of the hierarchy and Curia has long been treated as a kind of Catholic version of monsters under the bed, or McCarthyite paranoia about commie infiltrators. In fact, when you speak to people who work in the Vatican, you will quickly discover that for every two or three people who laugh at the very notion, you can find someone who has directly encountered it. I myself know at least two people who were approached about joining during their time working in Rome. The role of Masonic lodges as a confidential meeting point and network for those with heterodox ideas and agendas has changed little from pre-Revolutionary France to the modern Vatican; 300 years after the founding of the first Grand Lodge, the conflict between the Church and Freemasonry is still very much alive.

Also in the Catholic Herald, Dan Hitchens published an article titled "It's not just converts who are worried about the Church":

So of course converts and cradle Catholics will be dismayed by sacramental abuses and doctrinal confusion. And it is hard not to use such terms when we read Malta’s bishops claiming that avoiding adultery may be impossible; when we hear of priests, bishops and even cardinals abandoning the Church’s practice on Communion; when papal teachings are used – without contradiction from Rome – to justify novel approaches to divorce, euthanasia and extramarital relationships. (I have chosen a few examples here out of many, which together form a pattern.)

Catholics are living through a serious – not wholly unprecedented, but serious – doctrinal crisis. We all have psychological issues; as Samuel Johnson observed, “Perhaps, if we speak with rigorous exactness, no human mind is in its right state.” But as Johnson elsewhere remarked, there is one indispensable remedy: “The mind can only repose on the stability of truth.”

And lastly, First Things' Matthew Schmitz just published an article titled "A Church That Is a Home":

Writing in Commonweal, Massimo Faggioli complains that the Catholic Church in America is dominated by converts—including me. Faggioli is a liberal Catholic, and he appears to be distressed that, as a rule, vocal converts are not. We are loud, he complains, and we retain the gross manners of our previous communions. Perhaps our children will merit full participation in Catholic debate, but those of us who are new to the faith should lower our voices so that old Catholics can speak.

He particularly regrets that some converts have expressed displeasure with actions of the Pope. He goes as far as to say that I am guilty of “accusing the current pope of not being Catholic.” Or rather, he once did so. This statement has since been corrected by the editors of Commonweal, who are not generally sympathetic to my work, but who are honest enough to acknowledge that I have not done this.

Faggioli speaks as though it were after-hours at the Catholic Church, and anyone trying to enter should be subjected to questioning. There is an ecclesial nativism in his rhetoric, as if we become one with Christ through birth and not baptism. Converts perhaps need to be checked for lice or put in quarantine. “They have not faced the same kind of scrutiny or lengthy test and evaluation” as, say, new religious orders do. They are “finding an easier welcome into a Church that they then go and criticize.”

Austen Ivereigh echoes Faggioli in Crux. He writes that “Schmitz never actually said the pope wasn’t Catholic, but his narrative … adds up to something rather like it.” To support this assertion, Ivereigh quotes Ross Douthat saying something pungent about Pope Francis—though not, strangely, claiming that the pope is not Catholic. Let me see if I have this right: I did not actually say that the pope is not Catholic, but I as good as did, because Ross Douthat (and here I admit I lose the thread) also did not say that the pope is not Catholic. It is a game of thimblerig.

Ivereigh has some kind words for converts. He says that the Church “exists to spread the Gospel, and some of those it touches will want to become Catholic, and that’s wonderful.” These people “are special, and bring great gifts.” In sum, “We love converts.” This love would seem to require a great act of charity, however. Ivereigh diagnoses these special people with “convert neurosis.” They exhibit a “pathological or extreme reaction to something that simply doesn’t correspond to reality.” They are fresh off the boat, and “their baggage has distorted their hermeneutic.”

Both Faggioli and Ivereigh are keen to downplay the doctrinal disagreements that currently split the Church. Faggioli applies a more sociological lens, Ivereigh a more psychological lens, to explain away disagreement as stemming from something other than a difference in principle. These tactics are typical of the current pontificate, in which formal doctrinal condemnations and definitions have been set aside in favor of psychologizing the opposition. The cardinals who submitted the dubia have not been answered; they have been accused of some defect of mind or character. If the Church is a field hospital, it would seem to have a large and active psychiatric ward.

Behind all this stands the conceit of a divide—perhaps growing—between cradle Catholics and converts. Any reading of Catholic history shows the fallacy of emphasizing this opposition, and a reading of American Catholic history shows it in a special way. In 1632, the second Lord Baltimore, “convert son of a convert father” in the words of one chronicler, received the charter for the colony named Maryland in honor of Our Lady. Only a third of the original colonists were Catholic, but through the labors of two priests, almost all the original Protestant settlers were in time added to their number. Those English converts merely followed where thousands of indigenous Americans (we have no good record of how many, though their number is counted in heaven) had led, asking for baptism after meeting the “Black Robes.” Think of Kateri Tekakwitha or Elizabeth Ann Seton, Rose Hawthorne or Prince Gallitzin. Conversion is the American Catholic tradition.

But that tradition was foreign to the waves of Catholic ethnics who began entering America in the nineteenth century. They are the ones who gave us the American “cradle Catholic,” a creature in whom belief and blood almost combine. In its day, this tribal Catholicism imparted an identity strong and subtle enough to deflect nativist mobs and polite prejudice. Just as the early converts had built a Church that welcomed them, the Catholic ethnics built the Church that welcomes the converts of today.

But tribal Catholicism has not in every case succeeded. James Blaine might be called a cradle Catholic. He was born to a Catholic mother and a father who would later convert, and he seems to have been baptized in the Church. Nonetheless, in hope of winning the presidency (the most extreme version of the very American need to please), he put forth the “Blaine amendment,” a law that still shackles the Church in this country.

Some time between the wedding of Princess Grace and the election of JFK, Catholic cradles began to produce many more James Blaines. This probably had something to do with memories of prejudice and the desire to conform, an impulse felt not just by individual Catholics but by the Church as a whole. In those years, thousands—my father among them—left the Church. Others who shared their dissatisfaction stayed within it, hoping to save the Church by secularizing it.

When I entered the Church, I felt that I was receiving an inheritance that had been unjustly denied me. It was as if I had entered an ancestral house so grand that possession of it could never be complete. There would always be more closed-off corridors, hidden gardens, and forgotten chambers where things dear to my forebears gathered dust. Though I might visit these rooms and even restore them, I would only ever live in the new wing prepared for me.

Looking back now, I am surprised that I felt this way. Protestant worshippers at churches with names like Faith Community, Westerly Road, and Capitol Hill Baptist had always been welcoming to me. Catholics are comparatively guarded—almost possessive—about their faith, and they have never embraced me so fully. Even their churches are less cozy. Despite fifty years of Catholic effort, it is still the Protestants who know how to give worship a domestic warmth and simplicity.

Yet Catholicism gave me a home that Protestantism could not. Though I knew well as a Protestant that my inheritance was in Christ, it was only in Catholicism that I found my native land. Unlike low-church Protestants, Catholics are fool enough to think that their visible church corresponds to the invisible one. They suppose that they can bring Christ into this world directly through the Mass and indirectly through pilgrimage and shrine, fast and feast. Catholics cannot help but make this world reflect, however dimly, our heavenly home.

Catholicism proclaims the Incarnation by bodying forth grace in this world. It adopts us into a little family led by Mother and Father. It is this wonderful aspect of the faith that inclines cradle Catholics to snobbery toward converts. For those raised in the faith, the Church is a real enough home that they can feel disdain for interlopers. No one minds if another man assents to the same abstract principles that he does; but if that man moves into his house and competes for the affection of his mother, he is likely to become jealous. Contempt for vulgar new arrivals is not exactly saintly, but it seems inevitable in a Church that not only welcomes sinners but also asks them to play host.

Of course, something more than mere suspicion of strangers is going on in the Church today; there are deep disputes that can only be solved on their own terms. But to the extent that we really do have a battle between cradle Catholics and converts, I hope the latter are forgiving of the former. Prejudice toward newcomers is a small price to pay for a Church that is a home.
 

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Today's the Feast of the Assumption of Mary. If you're Catholic, get your ass to church today.

PJ Smith just published an introduction to Pius XI's encyclical Mit brennender Sorge at The Josias:

Pius XI’s 1937 encyclical on the Church and the German Reich, Mit brennender Sorge (With burning concern), is today probably most known for the circumstances under which it was brought into Germany. Composed in German—allegedly by Eugenio Cardinal Pacelli, then secretary of state, and Michael Cardinal von Faulhaber, longtime Archbishop of Munich—the encyclical was smuggled into Germany, distributed by the nuncio by courier, and printed in the utmost secrecy. Then, on Palm Sunday 1937, it was read out from the pulpit to German Catholics throughout the Reich. Hitler’s furious response came quickly: the Gestapo was sent out to round up those who participated in the distribution of the encyclical and to shut down the printing presses used. To Hitler and his circle, there was no mistaking what Mit brennender Sorge was: it was a declaration of war against the Reich by the Church.

However, it is fair to say that Mit brennender Sorge represents a recognition by the Church that a state of war, as it were, existed between it and the Reich. In 1933, Hitler signaled a willingness to enter into negotiations for a national concordat. This was welcome news to the Vatican after long negotiations with the Reich government and the Länder governments, which had produced mixed results. A treaty—the famous Reichskonkordat—was quickly concluded after Hitler took power. In Mit brennender Sorge, Pius explains that he assented to the Reichskonkordat with grave misgivings, but nevertheless did so in the hopes of obtaining for the German Catholics the rights promised in the treaty and of sparing them the hostility of the Reich. However, by 1937, it was clear that Hitler’s hostility to the Church was not leavened by any treaty, and that he intended to stamp out the Church in Germany as he intended to stamp out any institution that did not share his aims or bless his means. In the Pope’s view, Hitler made regular violation of the Reichskonkordat his policy. Based upon these actions by the Reich government, Pius seized the moment to condemn the errors of the Nazis.

According to Pius, the Nazi ideology was ultimately an “aggressive paganism,” which denied “the Personal God, supernatural, omnipotent, infinitely perfect, one in the Trinity of Persons, tri-personal in the unity of divine essence, the Creator of all existence. Lord, King and ultimate Consummator of the history of the world.” However, this paganism has several components. First, a “pantheistic confusion” that seeks to identify God with the universe. Second, a tendency to replace God with “a dark and impersonal destiny,” which has its roots in pre-Christian Germanic belief. Third, an idolization of “race, or the people, or the State, or a particular form of State, or the depositories of power, or any other fundamental value of the human community.” Fourth, a tendency to treat God as merely another concept on a level with any other purely human concept. Finally, the notion of a national God or national religion. To hold these views is to deny God his absolute sovereignty over all peoples and places, and to withhold from Him the obedience that is rightly His alone. This obedience is necessary to harmonize man’s actions and laws with the eternal law and the divine law.

Pius clarifies his teaching on race in a couple of key dimensions. First, he reminds us that faith in Christ requires faith in the Church, which exists, by Christ’s mandate, in unity and indivisibility. The Church is the same for everyone, regardless of race or nation, and to interfere with that unity through racial division is to do violence to God’s plan for His Church. In the same vein, Pius teaches us that, while there is nothing wrong with patriotism or ethnic community necessarily, the Catholic is, in addition to his ethnicity or national origin, a child of God and a citizen of the heavenly country. Speaking to the youth of Germany, Pius reminds us that we may not set our earthly citizenship at odds with our status as a member of the Body of Christ, the Church. Still less should we discount the moral heroism required of Christians.

Pius also teaches at considerable length about the connection between faith, morality, and law. For one thing, the exercise of the power of the state requires a morality founded upon faith in Christ to be obeyed. Removing faith in Christ as the basis of morality leads on one hand to moral collapse and on the other to disobedience to lawful exercises of state power. For another thing, abandonment of faith in Christ leads to laws without moral force. The natural law, Pius tells us, provides a criterion by which human laws may be judged. Pius’s warnings could not be clearer: the Nazis’ rejection of faith in God would lead inexorably both to moral collapse and to laws without moral force. While Pius, in 1937, was particularly concerned about laws that prevented parents from educating their children in Church schools, with the benefit of hindsight, one sees that still worse consequences would follow from the Nazis’ rejection of faith in Christ. In this, as on so many other topics, Pius proved to have almost prophetic vision.

The integralist intuitively understands the connection between faith, morality, and law. It is no less important to understand those things corrosive of faith and therefore of morality and law. Ideologies that idolize race (or the state, for that matter) are incompatible with faith in Christ. This has stark consequences for any regime—or any group—that find themselves separated from faith in Christ. Once it abandons faith in Christ, especially by adopting the aggressive paganism espoused by the Nazis, it starts down the road to immorality and tyranny. Mit brennender Sorge certainly has historical importance; it marked a watershed moment in German and Church history, the beginning of a time of great trial for Catholics in Germany. But, so long as persons purporting to be Christian adopt racialist ideologies, Pius’s encyclical cannot be altogether declared a historical curiosity.

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I'll bite. Martin's non-response is just a giant straw man argument intended to wrap an obvious deviation from the consistent teaching of the Church with a bunch of religious platitudes to help justify those who would rather embrace the bourgeoisie consensus than be converted to the traditional Christian standard.

No one is singling out homosexuals. We are in the midst of a sexual revolution that wants to redefine the significance and meaning of the sexual act and sexual identity. To assert that any Christian response to that revolution, even one as tame and tempered as the so-called Nashville Statement, is an act of unchristian judgmentalism is just rhetorical nonsense hiding behind the current pop opinion trying to score cheap points and convince people who won't take the time to actually study the issue to agree with him.
 
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