The Opening, Rivals100 Challenge etc.

[clashmore_mike]

I remember a YouTube clip of Kelly doing exact same thing before.

This one?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVnaGvAQW8I&feature=youtube_gdata_player

 

[peoriairish]

he goes to the tip of his toes, usually in drills coaches will ask that you exaggerate the small mechanics so that they become natural in live play.

getting on your toes is definitely one of those things, especially if the coaches notice you have been throwing flat footed, the coaches would ask you to exaggerate.

Great info and definitely makes sense. Thanks.

And why the hell is Johnny Douchbag at the Elite 11. He's not a great QB when it comes to mechanics. Ugh.

 

[rtrn2glory]

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Bcuz he won the heis man trophy and I believe a&m is sponsored by Nike so easy decision for them. U wanna beef with someone ask why the heck devin Gardner is there

 

[Cpnd1]

A&M is sponsored by adidas I am pretty sure, unless they changed from last year

 

[STLDomer]

A&M is definitely Addidas

All the counselors are Elite 11 alums, including Manziel & Gardner

 

[rtrn2glory]

My apologies

 

[STLDomer]

“@DameWebb: #QuentontoOSU”

Looks like OSU isn't done recruiting Nelson. There's a lot of Buckeyes there this week, that's OSU commit Damon Webb

 

[IrishLax]

“@DameWebb: #QuentontoOSU”

Looks like OSU isn't done recruiting Nelson. There's a lot of Buckeyes there this week, that's OSU commit Damon Webb

Lol for Christ's sake OSU... that campaign sure worked well the first time around........

 

[STLDomer]

Elite 11 Sunday Spotlight

Kizer gets some love from JC

 

[WakeUpEchoes]

Really liked what JC said. Guy who is 6'5", 220 lbs, fast, private school, AND highly coachable? Yes please.

 

[Buster Bluth]

Really liked what JC said. Guy who is 6'5", 220 lbs, fast, private school, AND highly coachable? Yes please.

I'm not sure being from a private school matters at all. Regardless, Toledo Central Catholic does its best to really blur the line between public and private anyway (but you already know that haha).

 

[STLDomer]

This should spark a good debate: Elite 11 Comparisons: Malik Zaire vs. DeShone Kizer

Kizer has been up-and-down from a performance/execution standpoint this year and Zaire had a solid outing according to the coaches at last year’s event, probably better than Kizer from that standpoint. That being said, the 6-foot-5, 210-pound Kizer has his best days of football ahead of him and there is really no comparison between the two from an upside standpoint. Plus, the intangibles that made Zaire an FBS-level prospect are just as strong with Kizer, so when you compare the two, there really is no clear advantage for the Irish 2013 quarterback signee over the fast-riser in this cycle. We would take - Kizer over Zaire. He’s a better prospect.

 

[Buster Bluth]

Whoa. That is saying something.

But I'd take Zaire over Kizer every day of the week and twice on Saturdays. But what do I know?

 

[irishog77]

This should spark a good debate: Elite 11 Comparisons: Malik Zaire vs. DeShone Kizer

Somebody should ask who they would prefer between Mauk and Kiel?

Still too soon?

 

[STLDomer]

I agree with their assessment that Zaire at this point last year was a better QB than Kizer but Kizer has the higher upside of the two.

Keep in mind Rivals was MUCH higher on Zaire than 247. At the moment their rankings are:

Zaire 247: #10 Dual Threat QB, #15 OH, NR Overall
Kizer 247: #5 Dual Threat QB, #8 OH, #193 Overall

Zaire Rivals: #3 Dual Threat QB, #6 OH, #122 Overall
Kizer Rivals: #8 Dual Threat QB, #15 OH, NR Overall

Zaire 247 Composite: #4 Dual Threat QB, #9 OH, #168 Overall
Kizer 247 Composite: #3 Dual Threat QB, #12 OH, #244 Overall

 

[NDPhilly]

Kizer IMO is taller, has a better arm, has a better throwing motion, and is just as mobile as Zaire. He just needs time. Pretty easy choice for Kizer IMO.

 

[STLDomer]

BTW, tomorrow is the last day of Elite 11 & the first day of The Opening which is always the SPARQ Combine. I wouldn't expect any of our commits to have particularly good SPARQ scores. I want to see how Brent tests out in the 40 & vertical, Hood in the 40 and power ball, and Nelson in the power ball.

 

[NDinFL]

BTW, tomorrow is the last day of Elite 11 & the first day of The Opening which is always the SPARQ Combine. I wouldn't expect any of our commits to have particularly good SPARQ scores.

Why not?

 

[STLDomer]

Why not?

I just don't think any of them are particularly big "combine kings" which I honestly I could care less about.

 

[NDinFL]

I just don't think any of them are particularly big "combine kings" which I honestly I could care less about.

Ohh,

As in the SPARQ scores are based off of 40 times, vertical, etc....?

 

[peoriairish]

Ohh,

As in the SPARQ scores are based off of 40 times, vertical, etc....?

Yup.

Get Rated

 

[NDWorld247]

I just don't think any of them are particularly big "combine kings" which I honestly I could care less about.

I think Hood is the only one that has participated in Sparq testing this year. His score (108.84) was #69 nationally this year for all positions. He should do well.

I really don't care about this either though. I had a HS teammate (he was a freshman when I was a senior) that had the best SPARQ score in the country the spring before his senior year. He didn't have a single scholarship offer and ended up starring for a division 3 school.

I'm much more interested in the 1v1s.

 

[rocket66]

Kizer IMO is taller, has a better arm, has a better throwing motion, and is just as mobile as Zaire. He just needs time. Pretty easy choice for Kizer IMO.

My thoughts exactly.

 

[STLDomer]

July 1 - Monday
9 AM - 12:30 PM: SPARQ preliminary testing and Nike Football Training Camp
4 PM - 5:30 PM: SPARQ Rating National Championship (ESPNU)

July 2 - Tuesday
10 AM - Noon: Linemen Challenge workout #1
12:30 PM - 6:30 PM: Nike 7ON pool play (ESPNU)

July 3 - Wednesday
9:30 AM - 4 PM: Nike 7ON Double-Elimination Championship Tournament
10 AM - 1 PM: Linemen Challenge workout #2 and Championships (ESPNU)
5 PM - 6 PM: Nike 7ON Championship Game (ESPNU)

 

[GolsonHeisman14]

Ill admit I'm no expert on QBs, but isn't a high release point what you work towards? A low release is typically bad form.

Yeah... Ask Tim Tebow!!!

 

[ND NYC]

re: Kizer vs Zaire

watched as much Kizer tape as i coulod find and while i love his measurables (ht/weight etc) and intangibles (leadership, maturity off the charts) what worries me about Kizer is simply his accuracy on his throws. He has said as much.
Zaire may not have the measurables, and im not sure on his intangibles but IMO he has "it" on the field...that thng you cant quite quantify, he just seems to get it done, and i really like his arm and accuracy. throws a real nice ball which to me is Job 1 for a QB.
if Kizer gets "the accuracy thing" down he could be special.

love both these guys...

 

[Booslum31]

Yeah... Ask Tim Tebow!!!

Bernie Kosar was the only one I can remember getting away with a "low release" for very long. I think that a "quick release" with a short throwing motion is as important if not more so.

 

[STLDomer]

Tony Brown with a new hair cut.....

OSU has IIRC 9 commits at The Opening, they are all rocking OSU shirts while everyone else is where The Opening shirts

 

[STLDomer]

Steve Wiltfong

Notre Dame RB commit Elijah Hood has a massive neck. Just a load at the RB position.

 

[Ndaccountant]

Steve Wiltfong

Good thing it is his neck and not butt or else Urban would be all over him.