The Official Irishenvy Fire Tommy Rees Thread

[IrishSpartan]

You can’t use the excuse about him being a lot better with a higher tier Qb anymore. How long has he had to get that Qb or develop one. No excuses.

 

[Bluto]

You can’t use the excuse about him being a lot better with a higher tier Qb anymore. How long has he had to get that Qb or develop one. No excuses.

It’s not an excuse it’s acknowledging the reality that if you bring in someone else as OC the QB situation remains the same for the next couple of years and for now it seems to be trending in the right direction.

 

[allenm5333]

Hindsight is 20/20.

Irregardless of who the OC is going forward the QB situation doesn’t change for the next 2-3 seasons.

ehh hindsight is 20/20. But Duggan was a top 5 duel threat qb, Clark was top 20

 

[GATTACA!]

It’s not an excuse it’s acknowledging the reality that if you bring in someone else as OC the QB situation remains the same for the next couple of years and for now it seems to be trending in the right direction.

If you were a top tier transfer QB would you rather go play for Tommy Rees or Garrett Riley after the offenses you've watched this year?

 

[Veritate Duce Progredi]

If you were a top tier transfer QB would you rather go play for Tommy Rees or Garrett Riley after the offenses you've watched this year?

If you were a top tier transfer QB, would you base your decision on a single data point? Or would you consider the roster you'll be playing with? Would you watch games of both teams and see what the rate-limiting factor is in an offense?

 

[Bluto]

If you were a top tier transfer QB would you rather go play for Tommy Rees or Garrett Riley after the offenses you've watched this year?

Depends. If I thought I was better than Pyne ND would get a serious look.

 

[ACamp1900]

he needs to run the ball with the fifth string QB!!!

 

[GATTACA!]

If you were a top tier transfer QB, would you base your decision on a single data point? Or would you consider the roster you'll be playing with? Would you watch games of both teams and see what the rate-limiting factor is in an offense?

My hypothetical is if Garrett took over at ND. Bluto said a new OC wouldn’t change our QB situation over night. I think you’re way more likely to entice a good QB with Riley.

 

[arahop]

Tommy has done enough. Have some QBs and WRs coming in. Keep Harry for the next 5 years and let's Roll

 

[Crazy Balki]

You can’t use the excuse about him being a lot better with a higher tier Qb anymore. How long has he had to get that Qb or develop one. No excuses.

I think you can at this point.

I've said before and I'll say again, the QB issue is looking to be more a Kelly/Long issue than a Rees one. Yeah, he's been the QB coach for 6 seasons, but do you honestly believe Rees had any say in who they went after under Long? No. Kelly targeted Pyne as a priority very early in his recruitment and told Rees and Long to get it done. Then they settled on him when it became apparent he wasn't going to develop as expected. That's textbook Kelly recruiting complacency. Too many times, Kelly would settle on lower ceiling guys and not consistently land high ceiling QBs year to year. This predates Rees.

Suddenly, Rees is promoted and things have looked significantly more consistent. In '21, they get Buchner, a top 100 level player. Then Angeli in '22, an underrated player who impressed early. Now Minchey, who has a high ceiling and was an Elite 11 finalist. Carr in '24, who's one of the top QB's in the class.

There's no reason we should be in a position where Pyne is the best we have, but this has been a Kelly problem for years. And not just at QB. So yeah, I think you can excuse Rees on this, at least somewhat.

 

[Old Man Mike]

I've decided that Tommy calls plays the way he does because he is desperate to find something that he can get Drew believing that he can operate confidently. We can't beat USC without Drew being able to make a fair variety of plays. Tommy seems to have done essentially everything he can to try to understand Drew's nervous psyche. All that would have driven me crazy long ago.

 

[NDMatt91]

My hypothetical is if Garrett took over at ND. Bluto said a new OC wouldn’t change our QB situation over night. I think you’re way more likely to entice a good QB with Riley.

Totally agree. Same with someone like Phil Longo, who was the primary recruiter for both Matt Corral and Drake Maye.

 

[Irish4life]

Don't mean to burst bubbles here, but Rees is not getting fired. Just saying.

 

[FOTY977]

Don't mean to burst bubbles here, but Rees is not getting fired. Just saying.

Yeah, as much as I would prefer to see a mutual parting of ways I have a feeling he’s on the sidelines next year. Let’s get that Minchey commit and roll on. He calls some damn good games and there are more weapons on the way. Let’s hope the lessons from this year lead to more consistency.

Drop any stinkers next year though….war path

 

[Irish4life]

Yeah, as much as I would prefer to see a mutual parting of ways I have a feeling he’s on the sidelines next year. Let’s get that Minchey commit and roll on. He calls some damn good games and there are more weapons on the way. Let’s hope the lessons from this year lead to more consistency.

Drop any stinkers next year though….war path

His biggest problem is that Drew Pyne is his QB. Which is on him, but recruiting uptick has been significant, if/when ND completes the Minchey flip.

 

[Crazy Balki]

His biggest problem is that Drew Pyne is his QB. Which is on him, but recruiting uptick is significant has been significant, if/when ND completes the Minchey flip.

Again, I have a hard time believing that Kelly and Long gave full agency to a 24 year old Tommy Rees, who had never even been a position coach, to pick his own QB. There's zero chance of that. Reality is that ND scouted Pyne and made him a priority as a HS freshman. Then, they settled on him when it was apparent he wasn't physically going to develop the way many assumed he would. Settling and halfassing it is a Kelly staple on the recruiting trail, and it predates Rees.

It's no shocker that the second Freeman takes over, Rees is suddenly a more effective recruiter. That's what happens when you have a head coach who is far more engaged in recruiting.

 

[ACamp1900]

Don't mean to burst bubbles here, but Rees is not getting fired. Just saying.

Hey,… stop trying to shit on everyone’s parade okay. Today was great, let the people have fun.

 

[ulukinatme]

I really want to see what he can put together with a stable of talented, experienced WRs and a stud QB. He's never had both in a season since taking over at OC, he's had to make do. We've seen flashes of good things, we could see some great things in the next two years. With the exception of losing Mayer I think we only get better at every position next year as the young offense gets more experienced.

 

[BilboBaggins]

Offense is averaging 40ppg since Stanford.

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

wE dIdN't GeT tO sEe AnGeLi

 

[BeatSC]

3 FGs and nothing on the last drive is still weak considering. Not saying to run a trick play but do better than what you were calling.

 

[FWIrish4]

3 FGs and nothing on the last drive is still weak considering. Not saying to run a trick play but do better than what you were calling.

It was essentially a blizzard for the second half as I was sitting in the stands for it….

 

[Ndaccountant]

New Browns OC

 

[NDLS_USMC]

New Browns OC

No offense, Ndaccountant...but isn't this dublinirish's job?

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

Isn’t that where people go to die?

 

[ab2cmiller]

Isn’t that where people go to die?

Word is that Tommy had one condition before he would accept the position. He would be allowed to play one game as QB next year so his name could be added to the shirt.

 

[HouseofPain]

Word is that Tommy had one condition before he would accept the position. He would be allowed to play one game as QB next year so his name could be added to the shirt.

He wasnt called Turnover Tommy for nutin! Poor Cleveland fans...

 

[Ndaccountant]

This will end well.

 

[MacIrish75]

Has Gerard or Deland called plays before?

LAST YEAR WAS YOUR FAULT.

 

[jprue24]

Tough spot.

"The Browns last week announced that Watson underwent a second surgery after retearing his Achilles and would likely miss a significant portion of the 2025 season.

Next for the Browns is solving their quandary at quarterback. The only other quarterback under contract for the 2025 season is 2023 fifth-round pick Dorian Thompson-Robinson. Cleveland has the No. 2 pick in the 2025 NFL draft and is expected to consider options in free agency as well as the draft."

Sources: Browns name Rees, ex-ND QB, as OC

The Cleveland Browns are promoting tight ends coach Tommy Rees, a former Notre Dame quarterback, to offensive coordinator, sources told ESPN.

www.espn.com