The Official Irishenvy Fire Tommy Rees Thread

[T Town Tommy]

You can have BoB. For someone that's supposed to be an offensive guru he hasn't shown me crap at Bama. He couldn't pack Sark's clipboard as an OC.
As far as the Irish... I don't see one alpha dog of either side of the ball. I remember one time a reporter asked Jonathan Allen about being tight or scared playing LSU in a night game in Baton Rouge. He laughed and said "Man, I would play them in the parking lot on concrete." That's what's missing for my Bama team this year... and that's what's missing from this Irish team IMO.

 

[Irishdrunk]

Marcus clearly needs a mentor on the staff. Shit can Rees and convince Jim Tressel to come back into coaching as the OC.

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

Marcus clearly needs a mentor on the staff. Shit can Rees and convince Jim Tressel to come back into coaching as the OC.

Tressel hasn’t coached a single play in 12 years. Lmaooooo the game has passed him by a long time ago.

 

[gkautz10]

Tommy calls a fine enough game, questionable at times downright bad at others . He fails at many other things off the field that would allow them to be successful on the field. the lack of development of players is what makes him look worse than he probably is. The fact of the matter is that we won’t win consistently or like we should until players develop. Something that hasn’t occurred except for the very few elite in the last 30 years.

 

[irishff1014]

No fucking way we lose to Marshall or Stanford with a healthy Buchner that also has the luxury of the same offensive line Pyne has had, as well as proper play calling. None.

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I don’t recall him not being healthy at the beginning of the game? He shouldn’t have been in the game when he got hurt.

 

[irishandy]

I thought Tommy called a pretty good first half. When ND has a chance to kick a team while they are down ND let's up...team's don't do that against us.

 

[BeatSC]

What are the chances we are stuck with Pyne starting next season or at least starting some games? We have to be able to do better than Pyne. Same with Tommy. Would be thrilled if Pyne entered the Portal but who da fuk would take him?

 

[Bluto]

The problem with Buchner is he hasn’t shown me that he’s capable of throwing a ball 40 yards. We actually have talented WR’s on the roster. I blame Styles dropped passes and play lately on lack of confidence in the QB. Styles, Lenzy, Thomas, Tobias are all talented and if the staff can’t find a QB to get them the ball then you’re gonna see a lot of transfers this off-season. You aren’t beating Bama running it 30-40 times a game you need a offense where you have a QB who can sling it all over the field. Lenzy has been open many times the last few weeks and Pyne can’t do squat

If I’m remembering correctly Buchner can throw a ball 40 yards no problem. Now, his accuracy on that type of throw might be a question.

 

[FWIrish4]

The problem with Buchner is he hasn’t shown me that he’s capable of throwing a ball 40 yards. We actually have talented WR’s on the roster. I blame Styles dropped passes and play lately on lack of confidence in the QB. Styles, Lenzy, Thomas, Tobias are all talented and if the staff can’t find a QB to get them the ball then you’re gonna see a lot of transfers this off-season. You aren’t beating Bama running it 30-40 times a game you need a offense where you have a QB who can sling it all over the field. Lenzy has been open many times the last few weeks and Pyne can’t do squat

It’s crazy to me so many people just completely forget the VT game last year. Buchner’s deep shots to Kevin Austin and Avery Davis were absolute dimes. He can do it. We saw him for a very limited offensive strategy (ball control) against a pretty good Ohio St defense and a terrible offensive lines for both games he started.

Once the oline settled down, the play calling from Rees drastically improved as well. Buchner would have benefited greatly from both. Also, if he was passing as poorly as Pyne against Stanford, we simply just start running him since he has an elite aspect to his game already built in. That’s something we can’t turn to with Pyne and cost us the Stanford game.

 

[irishff1014]

What are the chances we are stuck with Pyne starting next season or at least starting some games? We have to be able to do better than Pyne. Same with Tommy. Would be thrilled if Pyne entered the Portal but who da fuk would take him?

If it is Pyne and Tommy as Qb/Oc next year we are in big trouble for the future.

 

[DONTH8]

Tressel hasn’t coached a single play in 12 years. Lmaooooo the game has passed him by a long time ago.

Tressel?? Isn’t he a defensive coach? I dont think he ever did offense.

And Tressel ball would literally be reminiscent of Iowa. Even Saban figured out you need a team that can put up 35+ weekly now. the game has changed.

That is a Skip Bayless take if I have ever seen one.

 

[Free Manera]

I know I'm the one that started this thread... but I would be very happy with Tommy as the OC if he had someone who liked to recruit good QBs.


He dialed up a 60+ point game today. It was only drops and terrible throws/terrible quarterback play that kept it from happening.


Tommy as a play caller is pretty good.


Tommy as a talent getter is a fucking dumpster fire.

What are the chances we are stuck with Pyne starting next season or at least starting some games? We have to be able to do better than Pyne. Same with Tommy. Would be thrilled if Pyne entered the Portal but who da fuk would take him?

If it is Pyne and Tommy as Qb/Oc next year we are in big trouble for the future.

I can’t imagine a scenario where Tommy is back AND Pyne is starting games. There is no reason to worry about anybody’s feelings next year. You take the best QB transfer available. Same with WR.

If Tommy can get a head job in like the MAC or something (doubtful) or an NFL QB coach/coordinator job I think he will be encouraged to take it.

 

[NDMatt91]

I can’t imagine a scenario where Tommy is back AND Pyne is starting games. There is no reason to worry about anybody’s feelings next year. You take the best QB transfer available. Same with WR.

If Tommy can get a head job in like the MAC or something (doubtful) or an NFL QB coach/coordinator job I think he will be encouraged to take it.

Even if no one wants him, you tell him you're moving on from him.

 

[PigtownIrish]

If I’m remembering correctly Buchner can throw a ball 40 yards no problem. Now, his accuracy on that type of throw might be a question.

Yes. Saying we'd be 6-1 with Buchner is a little much. He played for most of the Marshall game. And showed many of the same accuracy problems we are seeing with Pyne.

 

[ColinKSU]

Can’t stand this board sometime.

Tommy Rees is able to score points on UNLV and it’s like “he’s not that bad, just needs a QB”. Like it’s not his fault he doesn’t have one.

No matter how he finishes this 5 game stretch out (probably won’t be great), he still failed to average 20 points against Marshall/Stanford at home.

So while you all can have short attention spans, and live week to week whether he’s a good OC depending on the outcome of the most recent game; I will die on the hill that he’s awful for this program, his scheme isn’t a modern winning CFB offense, he didn’t deserve the job in the first place, and he needs to be axed as soon as the season ends.

Drives me absolutely insane how quickly people convince themselves Tommy is actually good again. He was trash against UNLV too, and he’s going to be trash the rest of the way because he’s trash.

It’s an abusive relationship. “If only Tommy didn’t have to deal with the issues that he is directly responsible for…” FOH.

 

[Irishdrunk]

Tressel?? Isn’t he a defensive coach? I dont think he ever did offense.

And Tressel ball would literally be reminiscent of Iowa. Even Saban figured out you need a team that can put up 35+ weekly now. the game has changed.

That is a Skip Bayless take if I have ever seen one.

No he is from the offensive side of the ball. Most but not all great college HC come from the offensive side.

 

[stlnd01]

Yes. Saying we'd be 6-1 with Buchner is a little much. He played for most of the Marshall game. And showed many of the same accuracy problems we are seeing with Pyne.

The entire team was garbage against Marshall. We’d have won if the defense had made a stop on third and forever early in their long drive to go ahead in the fourth. We seem to have a game like that every year it’s just usually we squeak out the win late.

Regardless, since then the O Line and running game have been a lot better. The limiting factor is our passing game. Buchner couldn’t be worse at passing than Pyne and also he can run. We beat Stanford if he was playing that night.

 

[NDMatt91]

Yes. Saying we'd be 6-1 with Buchner is a little much. He played for most of the Marshall game. And showed many of the same accuracy problems we are seeing with Pyne.

I'm not saying for certain that this is the case, but is it possible that Buchner just isn't all that good and he feasted on mediocre competition in HS?

 

[NDIrish1988]

Rees needs to go. I don’t care if that costs them Carr. TBH, I have to wonder why Carr has any desire to play under Rees.

The clear choice for OC should be Garrett Riley at TCU

 

[Free Manera]

Drives me absolutely insane how quickly people convince themselves Tommy is actually good again. He was trash against UNLV too, and he’s going to be trash the rest of the way because he’s trash.

It’s an abusive relationship. “If only Tommy didn’t have to deal with the issues that he is directly responsible for…” FOH.

Don’t you get it he just needs a pre-developed five star quarterback and a few elite receivers and then his genius level playcalling can be demonstrated. Is that so much to ask? Oh but don’t ask him to get those guys that’s below the belt.

 

[Ray “The Mule” Finkle]

Don't think he can be much more inconsistent with QB recruiting than Tommy boy. He has done well with Newman and Hartman and it'll be easier to recruit better prospects at ND.

Phil Longo, the UNC OC, appears to be a very good recruiter/talent evaluator. He was the primary recruiter for Matt Corral and Drake Maye.

Longo is my hope too.

 

[IrishBoognish]

Don’t you get it he just needs a pre-developed five star quarterback and a few elite receivers and then his genius level playcalling can be demonstrated. Is that so much to ask? Oh but don’t ask him to get those guys that’s below the belt.

I feel the need to defend myself here.


I started the Fire Tommy Rees thread and I stand by it. Dude should be gone. Be he has dialed up plays that if hit, would make us a 1 loss team. I don't think he's a bad playcaller, he's a God awful recruiter of QBs and that should get you fired.

It's his fault he's stuck with Pyne. Nobody else's. It's partially his fault the WR room looks like it does. Fire him.

 

[Ray “The Mule” Finkle]

I feel the need to defend myself here.


I started the Fire Tommy Rees thread and I stand by it. Dude should be gone. Be he has dialed up plays that if hit, would make us a 1 loss team. I don't think he's a bad playcaller, he's a God awful recruiter of QBs and that should get you fired.

It's his fault he's stuck with Pyne. Nobody else's. It's partially his fault the WR room looks like it does. Fire him.

We always trend (in the aggregate) from down right anger and outrage on Saturday, to fan boys by Tuesday. Give it 5 days. They’ll circle back to you 😂

 

[GATTACA!]

I'd walk over broken glass to get Garrett Riley here in place of Rees.

 

[Bluto]

I'd walk over broken glass to get Garrett Riley here in place of Rees.

In all fairness I think Rees would look a lot better as an OC with a QB like Dugan as opposed to Pyne.

 

[FOTY977]

In all fairness I think Rees would look a lot better as an OC with a QB like Dugan as opposed to Pyne.

If only the QB coach could get a guy like that on the field

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

I’m at the point that TR has shown some real promiseas a caller but the QB situation I think is really holding him back from calling the plays he wants. That plus Pynes fucking noodle arm can’t throw deep or his short ass can’t throw over the middle due to DL.

 

[Bluto]

If only the QB coach could get a guy like that on the field

That’s fair. Maybe he will in a year or two. If you bring in Riley that would still be the case.

Has Riley been anywhere long enough to clearly demonstrate that he can recruit, develop and manage a roster of QB’s at a high level?

Looks like his two seasons at SMU was his longest gig with him being directly responsible for that.

Seems like Duggan was an out of the box player.

 

[allenm5333]

In all fairness I think Rees would look a lot better as an OC with a QB like Dugan as opposed to Pyne.

I am pretty sure ND recruited Duggan...landed Brendon Clark instead!

 

[Bluto]

I am pretty sure ND recruited Duggan...landed Brendon Clark instead!

Hindsight is 20/20.

Irregardless of who the OC is going forward the QB situation doesn’t change for the next 2-3 seasons.