The impending death of the NCAA story

[BobbyMac]

(Sorry, I couldn't find a NCAA titled thread to dump this in... is there no search function? Why do I not know the answer to that??)

Eye opening comments by Mark Emmert.

NCAA could be down to one or two years before it runs out of oxygen unless it fixes itself

NCAA president Mark Emmert warns of impending doom for the governing body unless it re-invents itself

www.cbssports.com

 

[ACamp1900]

I think it’s a bit soon to spike the football on ‘NIL has worked’,… but maybe that’s just me

 

[clashmore_mike]

 

[Blazers46]

(Sorry, I couldn't find a NCAA titled thread to dump this in... is there no search function? Why do I not know the answer to that??)

Eye opening comments by Mark Emmert.

NCAA could be down to one or two years before it runs out of oxygen unless it fixes itself

NCAA president Mark Emmert warns of impending doom for the governing body unless it re-invents itself

www.cbssports.com

I was listening to the pregame show yesterday with Jay Bilas talking about the NCAA and NIL... my only thought was this guy has been one of the main voices for NIL and seems anti-NCAA in a lot of ways and that maybe he doesn't realize the ramifications of his voice because if the NCAA goes away or if the college amateur sports go away he will probably be out of a job. Future seems shaky for NCAA and amateur sports.

 

[Whiskeyjack]

I was listening to the pregame show yesterday with Jay Bilas talking about the NCAA and NIL... my only thought was this guy has been one of the main voices for NIL and seems anti-NCAA in a lot of ways and that maybe he doesn't realize the ramifications of his voice because if the NCAA goes away or if the college amateur sports go away he will probably be out of a job. Future seems shaky for NCAA and amateur sports.

Agreed. Bilas embodies the problems with the current approach. He's been rightfully skewering the NCAA over its hypocrisy and corruption for a long time. But his prescribed solution- blow it all up and go full semiprofessional- is a demonstrably terrible idea.

The vast majority of athletes are getting a pretty good deal under the current arrangement. There are ways to treat the elite few more fairly that don't endanger the whole system.

Tearing things down is easy. Rebuilding is hard.

 

[BobbyMac]

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There's the problem. There's just an empty square to the right of the notification bell

 

[clashmore_mike]

There's the problem. There's just an empty square to the right of the notification bell

interesting, can you send me a screenshot?

 

[BrownerandFry]

(Sorry, I couldn't find a NCAA titled thread to dump this in... is there no search function? Why do I not know the answer to that??)

Eye opening comments by Mark Emmert.

NCAA could be down to one or two years before it runs out of oxygen unless it fixes itself

NCAA president Mark Emmert warns of impending doom for the governing body unless it re-invents itself

www.cbssports.com

I think that Emmert has publicly admitted that he is in over his head.

To wit:

NCAA President Mark Emmert Seeks Senate's Guidance on Name, Image, Likeness

NCAA president Mark Emmert has asked Congress to step in and provide guidance on college athletes' ability to earn money from endorsements.

www.si.com

I mean really, would Kennesaw Mountain Landis ask the %^&*(&*&^+__%%$$ Senate of the United States for help?
would Buffet? Bezos?

I wouldn't ask Chuck Schumer and Mitch McConnel to help me draft a toilet pass.

this is total abdication by
Emmert, or, more kindly, a plea for help.

the job, truly is too big for him, the moment beyond his capacity.

 

[BobbyMac]

interesting, can you send me a screenshot?

Whatever you did, it fixed it.

TYVM

 

[NorthDakota]

NCAA bout to die just before we win a natty lmao. Very on brand for ND

 

[ACamp1900]

NCAA bout to die just before we win a natty lmao. Very on brand for ND

No. It’ll die the year before ND looks the easy pre season favorite,… THAT will be on brand lol

 

[Ndaccountant]

Agreed. Bilas embodies the problems with the current approach. He's been rightfully skewering the NCAA over its hypocrisy and corruption for a long time. But his prescribed solution- blow it all up and go full semiprofessional- is a demonstrably terrible idea.

The vast majority of athletes are getting a pretty good deal under the current arrangement. There are ways to treat the elite few more fairly that don't endanger the whole system.

Tearing things down is easy. Rebuilding is hard.

I don't disagree, but I do think it's incredibly complex no matter how you slice it. You are correct in that there are an elite few compared to the broad swath of athletes under the NCAA umbrella. The problem is that the elite few are concentrated in select sports and at select schools. It's the concentration of these elite few that make this so very difficult. For example, what is good for UGA could be a death blow for Tulsa.

I understand the compelling nature of rewarding the athletes and protecting their "rights", especially with how many schools and many coaches have lined their bank accounts along the way. But I truly fail to see a compromise right now that satisfies all three of the core stakeholders (athletes, elite athletic schools, non-elite schools) without some dramatic shift. There is no strategic direction at this point. I am the believer that no strategy is worse than a wrong strategy. Organizationally speaking, it's much easier to shift than to start. The longer they stall, the more likely a tear down IMO. For the record, still believe the end result will be another tier of schools, with 30-40 schools breaking from D1 to form their own "league" and I think in the end, a union is more likely than not.

 

[Irish#1]

The NCAA and university presidents have no one but themselves to blame for this. There is so much to say that I'd wear out my keyboard by the time I was done.

 

[SouthSideChiDomer]

I don't disagree, but I do think it's incredibly complex no matter how you slice it. You are correct in that there are an elite few compared to the broad swath of athletes under the NCAA umbrella. The problem is that the elite few are concentrated in select sports and at select schools. It's the concentration of these elite few that make this so very difficult. For example, what is good for UGA could be a death blow for Tulsa.

I understand the compelling nature of rewarding the athletes and protecting their "rights", especially with how many schools and many coaches have lined their bank accounts along the way. But I truly fail to see a compromise right now that satisfies all three of the core stakeholders (athletes, elite athletic schools, non-elite schools) without some dramatic shift. There is no strategic direction at this point. I am the believer that no strategy is worse than a wrong strategy. Organizationally speaking, it's much easier to shift than to start. The longer they stall, the more likely a tear down IMO. For the record, still believe the end result will be another tier of schools, with 30-40 schools breaking from D1 to form their own "league" and I think in the end, a union is more likely than not.

Well they don't really have a spot at the table, so as long as whatever the NCAA comes up with is good enough to cover them from further Supreme Court cases or Congressional legislation, they don't really have to find a compromise agreement with athletes.

 

[Rogue219]

I fear for anything that isn't Division I Men's basketball or Power Five Football, but the NCAA is not only a cartel it's an inept one. Whatever purpose they had they outlived it a long time ago.

 

[IrishLax]

I fear for anything that isn't Division I Men's basketball or Power Five Football, but the NCAA is not only a cartel it's an inept one. Whatever purpose they had they outlived it a long time ago.

Basically this. They’ve been an extremely corrupt cartel for decades. They could’ve easily justified their own existence by:
1. Giving themselves better investigative powers.
2. Actually trying to police academics in the 90s and 00s when some places had graduation rates below 50% and sham classes.
3. Looking out for student well being whether it was with things like oversigning, abuse, financial assistance for basic stuff like parental travel, etc.

They electively chose to do none of those things. They REDUCED scholarships across the board to give less educational opportunities than the market dictated and have done nothing but keep the gravy train running into the pockets of coaches and administrators.

 

[Pops Freshenmeyer]

I don't disagree, but I do think it's incredibly complex no matter how you slice it. You are correct in that there are an elite few compared to the broad swath of athletes under the NCAA umbrella. The problem is that the elite few are concentrated in select sports and at select schools. It's the concentration of these elite few that make this so very difficult. For example, what is good for UGA could be a death blow for Tulsa.

I understand the compelling nature of rewarding the athletes and protecting their "rights", especially with how many schools and many coaches have lined their bank accounts along the way. But I truly fail to see a compromise right now that satisfies all three of the core stakeholders (athletes, elite athletic schools, non-elite schools) without some dramatic shift. There is no strategic direction at this point. I am the believer that no strategy is worse than a wrong strategy. Organizationally speaking, it's much easier to shift than to start. The longer they stall, the more likely a tear down IMO. For the record, still believe the end result will be another tier of schools, with 30-40 schools breaking from D1 to form their own "league" and I think in the end, a union is more likely than not.

A great many states forbid state employees from collectively bargaining. They can't unionize without congressional intervention and so we're stuck here until congress decides to preempt.

 

[zelezo vlk]

Not sure where else to put this, but here's another nail in the NCAA's coffin