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ND had a great DC last year. Still took a few games to get up to speed.

Knowles ppg defense by year:
2021: 18.3
2020: 23.5
2019: 27.0
2018: 32.4

I am sure he will be fine. It won't be a snap of the finger.
Good point. Early in the season, which team has the most adjusting to do, timing issues, conditioning problems, guys at new positions. I mean, we nearly lost to FSU. We were ill prepared for that game. We can’t afford a start like that. Who is rocking and rolling, jiving as a unit, and firing on all cylinders without as much rust on Sept 3 will win. This is likely the best time to play then, assuming we are ready.
 
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ND had a great DC last year. Still took a few games to get up to speed.

Knowles ppg defense by year:
2021: 18.3
2020: 23.5
2019: 27.0
2018: 32.4

I am sure he will be fine. It won't be a snap of the finger.
Will also have a shit ton more talent though haha
 

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Will also have a shit ton more talent though haha

Yes but not as experienced in what will be an entirely new system I believe, unless one of our new Buckeye member friends can correct me here. Ok State's defense this past year, while not a bunch of 4 and 5 stars, was almost all seniors and 5th years IIRC. Super veteran team.
 

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Holy cow, the way the 23' recruiting season is shaping up to be a back and forth with the Buckeyes, it would be epic to get a W to kick of the 22' season. I expect we'd be underdogs, but maybe Freeman, Rees, Washington etc hype and energy can lead us to a victory!

Not to mention I have a neighbor two doors down here in Colorado who is a obnoxious Buckeye fan. I wouldn't mind laughing in his face Sept 4th :)
 
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Holy cow, the way the 23' recruiting season is shaping up to be a back and forth with the Buckeyes, it would be epic to get a W to kick of the 22' season. I expect we'd be underdogs, but maybe Freeman, Rees, Washington etc hype and energy can lead us to a victory!

Not to mention I have a neighbor two doors down here in Colorado who is a obnoxious Buckeye fan. I wouldn't mind laughing in his face Sept 4th :)
I suspect that MF has been quietly working with AG & TR on game plans for a while now. OSU won't know what to expect facing a different DC. I like our chances.
 

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Hard to believe because it’s still July, but tomorrow we are only 39 days until game day.
 

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I see us hanging around a little bit early. Something like down 17-13 at half. I think OSU scores a couple 4th quarter TD's and wins something like 38-20.
 

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Blake Grupe makes five FGs, Buchner runs for two TDs and we win 29-27.
 

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I dislike OSU (even more than Michigan.) They really curtail our recruiting in the Ohio Hotbed (obviously) and elsewhere MUCH more than the other guys. Unfortunately, however, their success in undeniable on the field. They are the only Northern team seriously challenging the Southern powers. Throwing cheap shots at them doesn't have the authenticity that talking smack about Michigan does. The only thing is "simple" --- put an "L" on them.
 

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First game of the season anything can happen. Smart money would seem to be with OSU
 

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Am I in the minority in thinking that this is our perfect opportunity to pull this out?

Tommy having a different type of QB should produce an offense that OSU may not be prepared for.

Al Golden will have a stellar defensive plan for the Buckeyes

The Freeman effect of starting his first season as HC and the emotional lift that will give the team.

Ryan Day - IMO - is not a great game day coach and the above may give ND enough of an advantage to pull this thing out.
 

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Am I in the minority in thinking that this is our perfect opportunity to pull this out?

Tommy having a different type of QB should produce an offense that OSU may not be prepared for.

Al Golden will have a stellar defensive plan for the Buckeyes

The Freeman effect of starting his first season as HC and the emotional lift that will give the team.

Ryan Day - IMO - is not a great game day coach and the above may give ND enough of an advantage to pull this thing out.
I could get on board with this. Hard to imagine 2 more different qbs than Bucnher and Coan. They should be guessing at what our offense will look like.
 

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It’s not arrogance. It’s a properly placed sense of superiority.
It’s arrogance, lol. As OSU grad who is a lifelong ND fan, I can say that I’m proud that ND is populated with (mostly) real student athletes. That said, the difference in academic bona fides of the schools is pretty overplayed — OSU is elite as public universities go. The primary difference is that OSU has to take 5x more students every year, that makes it tough to take only the cream of the crop. But, this isn’t a ND v. WVU type situation - no offense to the Mountaineers. It a good matchup of academic cultures.
 

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I'd be a little bit more optimistic if we had a better rushing attack, seeing as that is what Oregon and UM destroyed them with. Maybe our's will come to play.
 

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It’s arrogance, lol. As OSU grad who is a lifelong ND fan, I can say that I’m proud that ND is populated with (mostly) real student athletes. That said, the difference in academic bona fides of the schools is pretty overplayed — OSU is elite as public universities go. The primary difference is that OSU has to take 5x more students every year, that makes it tough to take only the cream of the crop. But, this isn’t a ND v. WVU type situation - no offense to the Mountaineers. It a good matchup of academic cultures.
There is a wide margin between someone that gets into Ohio State and Notre Dame. Notre Dames stats for the average undergrad is 4.03 GPA and 33-35 ACT. That is the same or slightly higher than Harvard. Notre Dame might be the most selective university in the nation as they are small and also want soft factors to match sterling academics. I get that you’re wanting to prop up your alma matter, but it ain’t even close. It pains me to say it, but Michigan is a more academic school and far greater research university than Ohio State. Unless you’re talking admissions for athletes, in which case it’s not really that different at ND vs OSU (hence the reason we recruit the same kids).
 
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That said, the difference in academic bona fides of the schools is pretty overplayed — OSU is elite as public universities go. The primary difference is that OSU has to take 5x more students every year, that makes it tough to take only the cream of the crop.

Isn’t this contradictory? OSU is certainly ascending in quality on a public level but ND is not public, nor do they have the same amount of students, both per you. That allows ND to only admit the cream of the crop, again per you. You’re point seems to imply OSU could be closer to ND if not for multiple very large differences. OSU is a good public school, it is not ND.

The differences are not overplayed, they are exactly what you outlined and why lol.
 

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Isn’t this contradictory? OSU is certainly ascending in quality on a public level but ND is not public, nor do they have the same amount of students, both per you. That allows ND to only admit the cream of the crop, again per you. You’re point seems to imply OSU could be closer to ND if not for multiple very large differences. OSU is a good public school, it is not ND.

The differences are not overplayed, they are exactly what you outlined and why lol.
I’ve identified characteristics that make the schools different — they’re illustrative, not dispositive. You’re reading in a contradiction that doesn’t exist. Nothing you’ve added seems to indicate a contradiction, either. The top of each incoming class is likely qualitatively similar, but as OSUs prerogative is to educate a greater number, they throw a wider net and admit students that ND likely wouldn’t — good on both schools. My point is that both are excellent schools, but the fact that Notre Dame is considered better is an overplayed hand. This wasn’t an attack on ND, so there’s really no need to defend, but to the extent you did, it seems needlessly argumentative.
 
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