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If Day and Shembo can win their matchups consistently, considering they will likely be 1-on-1 all night, I like our chances a whole lot more.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>MT <a href="https://twitter.com/SIPeteThamel">@SIPeteThamel</a>: Who was ND's best defensive lineman vs. Temple? Not Nix or Tuitt. Owl coaches found soph Sheldon Day the most disruptive.</p>— Jake Brown (@Jake_Brown) <a href="https://twitter.com/Jake_Brown/statuses/375676138405634048">September 5, 2013</a></blockquote>
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If Day and Shembo can win their matchups consistently, considering they will likely be 1-on-1 all night, I like our chances a whole lot more.

The 3-4 D really concerns me because they can bring pressure from a lot of different ways and confuse the OL.

The interior OL will be up for a huge challenge, no doubt. Lewan and Schofield should hold their own, that's a really good set of tackles.

Borges and Hoke did say that they were toying with the OL a little bit, that Glasgow was taking snaps at center still. I wonder if they plug Chris Bryant in at LG and Glasgow in at C to get some more size in there to face Tuitt/Nix on the inside.
 

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I hope that isn't what the game depends on.... Shembo has to go against Lewan all game.

From reading the ISD and II articles, Tuitt certainly doesn't think that will be the case. He is expecting to matchup with Lewan at the bare minimum some of the time and stated he is looking forward ('relishing') the challenge.
 

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From reading the ISD and II articles, Tuitt certainly doesn't think that will be the case. He is expecting to matchup with Lewan at the bare minimum some of the time and stated he is looking forward ('relishing') the challenge.

It's not what happened last year, he barely faced Tuitt. Unless Tuitt expects to move to the other side, Lewan plays blindside.
 

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It's not what happened last year, he barely faced Tuitt. Unless Tuitt expects to move to the other side, Lewan plays blindside.

I'm just going off the quotes Tuitt gave about his expectations for this year.

Also, I remember distinctly Shembo having his way with Lewan at least a couple of times, joining Tuitt at the QB for a sack in one particular instance.
 

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Although I'm with LAX in fear factor, I don't think there is any question that we held back at Temple. We only ran 10 different offensive plays, played 10 freshman, pulled Tommy and ran very basic defensive alignments.


Is this hyperbole or serious?
 

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I'm just going off the quotes Tuitt gave about his expectations for this year.

Also, I remember distinctly Shembo having his way with Lewan at least a couple of times, joining Tuitt at the QB for a sack in one particular instance.

This will give you a look at UMs offensive attempts from last year. There is a mix of matchups with Lewan. I didn't have time to review it all.
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Jesus, Lewan holds the **** outta some dudes and gets away with it! Doesnt even hide it with his hands inside either!
 

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Is this hyperbole or serious?

It's serious. Some were the same play, just reversed to the other side of the field, but from my count we only ran 10 different plays last week. Someone else told me about it and I checked it out. Out of 60 offensive snaps (doesn't include punts), we used about 10 plays.
 

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This will give you a look at UMs offensive attempts from last year. There is a mix of matchups with Lewan. I didn't have time to review it all.
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Lewan & Schofield look good in that. Interior OL stinks.
 

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It's serious. Some were the same play, just reversed to the other side of the field, but from my count we only ran 10 different plays last week. Someone else told me about it and I checked it out. Out of 60 offensive snaps (doesn't include punts), we used about 10 plays.

That's beautiful. scUM is fvcked.
 

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Lewan & Schofield look good in that. Interior OL stinks.

I thought Lewan was great in pass pro there, not as great in run block (although still solid). Schofield was beat a couple times, but other than that he was solid. The interior OL has to be where we dominate, especially considering Nix is going to be taking up two of them.
 

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It's not what happened last year, he barely faced Tuitt. Unless Tuitt expects to move to the other side, Lewan plays blindside.

In the video by Wildman, there was an awful lot of Tuitt v. Lewan - I'd even say more one on ones between those two than Shembo and Lewan. In the second half I don't think I saw Shembo against him more than once or twice - it was either Tuitt or Kap.
 

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In the video by Wildman, there was an awful lot of Tuitt v. Lewan - I'd even say more one on ones between those two than Shembo and Lewan. In the second half I don't think I saw Shembo against him more than once or twice - it was either Tuitt or Kap.

I cant watch the video (blocked), but I know Lewan plays blindside and Tuitt plays on the opposite side of the field than him. I was at the game and remember seeing them go against eachother, but remember Shembo being the primary person he faced. Tuitt lining up on the right or Lewan on scUM's right is backwards of where they usually are.

I'll check the vid tonight. I had many o cocktail that day.
 

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I cant watch the video (blocked), but I know Lewan plays blindside and Tuitt plays on the opposite side of the field than him. I was at the game and remember seeing them go against eachother, but remember Shembo being the primary person he faced. Tuitt lining up on the right or Lewan on scUM's right is backwards of where they usually are.

I'll check the vid tonight. I had many o cocktail that day.

I could be wrong but it looked at first glance Tuitt and Shembo were lining up depending on field-side / boundary, and Lewan was at LT 100% of the time. That's just what it looked like it could be at first glance, but if I have more time later I'll watch again more intently.
 

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Based on the fact that they are terrible. Neither is remotely close to an NFL caliber player... I'm not even sure if they're BCS level players. Michigan has legitimate athletes at ILB who can make plays. We have liabilities at ILB with gigantic flaws to their game.

You're really underselling these guys. I don't think the first half against Temple was fairly representative of their ability for a number of reasons, but we'll see this Saturday night.

We'll see. We've been really poor in defending mobile QBs relative to pocket passers since Diaco has been in town.

Are you still planning on writing that article? Sorting opposing QBs by mobile/ immobile might be misleading here as far as schematic weakness is concerned. Some of the mobile QBs we've faced recently have been insanely good (Luck, Robinson, etc.)

Disagree. Leaves OTs 1v1 and double/triple Nix in our 3-down front depending on the play. In 4-down they *might* have issues if and only if Day has a big game. I do not expect our DL to be a big factor for us in this game unless we get creative with pressures... which is unlikely. We'll probably just play contain.

Our DL played quite well last year, and should do even better this year against a rebuilt interior UM line. Toss in some ILB blitzes (see the film breakdown from OFD) and pressure shouldn't be an issue.
 

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So we are first in winning percentage?

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Notre Dame 1st at .73325, per <a href="http://t.co/8BBmwIZHa5">http://t.co/8BBmwIZHa5</a> Michigan 2nd at .73312. If Wolverines win: .73333, Irish .73264. Bragging rights!</p>— Pat Forde (@YahooForde) <a href="https://twitter.com/YahooForde/statuses/375701429974867968">September 5, 2013</a></blockquote>
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I noticed in the video above that UM's offense attacked the defensive tackle positions virtually all game. Several plays were mis-direction, sweeps, designed Qb runs and such but they went right at where the DTs were lined up. It looked like they were shooting for the edge almost every play, with the exception of the few QB runs up the gut. I wonder if we will see a lot of that this game.
 

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So we are first in winning percentage?

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Notre Dame 1st at .73325, per <a href="http://t.co/8BBmwIZHa5">http://t.co/8BBmwIZHa5</a> Michigan 2nd at .73312. If Wolverines win: .73333, Irish .73264. Bragging rights!</p>— Pat Forde (@YahooForde) <a href="https://twitter.com/YahooForde/statuses/375701429974867968">September 5, 2013</a></blockquote>
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I thougt we were still slightely behind them. I knew it could change this year though depending on how we both do. I also thought we were at .734 and they were at .735.
 

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Maybe he means IF ND wins A.) IF UM wins B.)

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You're really underselling these guys. I don't think the first half against Temple was fairly representative of their ability for a number of reasons, but we'll see this Saturday night.



Are you still planning on writing that article? Sorting opposing QBs by mobile/ immobile might be misleading here as far as schematic weakness is concerned. Some of the mobile QBs we've faced recently have been insanely good (Luck, Robinson, etc.)



Our DL played quite well last year, and should do even better this year against a rebuilt interior UM line. Toss in some ILB blitzes (see the film breakdown from OFD) and pressure shouldn't be an issue.

No, he's not. They were awful. Some of the worst ILB play I've seen in a long time. Especially against a team that is as atheletically disadvantaged (compared to the kinda guys we bring in) as Temple was.

Fox and Carlo will cost us a game this year. Book it. (if they don't get it together...but as I've said before, Carlo is just plain slow. can't teach that)


Just shows how special and important Manti really was.
 

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Jesus, Lewan holds the **** outta some dudes and gets away with it! Doesnt even hide it with his hands inside either!

That's how OL are taught to block at pretty much every level. If you keep the hands inside, it'll never get called.
 

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That's how OL are taught to block at pretty much every level. If you keep the hands inside, it'll never get called.

Precisely, thats why I said he didnt even hide it with his hands inside. I played from rocket through college and most of that at one of the Oline positions, so I am well aware of the holding, but man he gets away with a lot (big ten officiating helps).
Lewan is good, dont get me wrongs, excellent feet and base, with good powerful hands. He is widely known as a dirty player and holding is one of those traits that contributes to that.
 
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No, he's not. They were awful. Some of the worst ILB play I've seen in a long time. Especially against a team that is as atheletically disadvantaged (compared to the kinda guys we bring in) as Temple was.

Worst ILB play in a long time? Don't reveal your amateurism so easily.

Reading an offense has nothing to do with athleticism. Temple's play action is designed to make ILBs look silly, it's how the play is designed!

It's pretty ****ing tough to play well against a quarterback and coach you don't have film on to master tendencies. How is this continuing to be so difficult to understand?
 

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Hopefully we see the same ball security from them this weekend...
 

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I thougt we were still slightely behind them. I knew it could change this year though depending on how we both do. I also thought we were at .734 and they were at .735.

Forde said Michigan still has most overall wins, but we have best percentage.
 

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I think we only overtake them if we win. I'm pretty sure we're currently not ahead of them.
 
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