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I thougt we were still slightely behind them. I knew it could change this year though depending on how we both do. I also thought we were at .734 and they were at .735.
Here are the calculations I have.
(As of last week)
UM 904w's 315L's 36T's .7346% 1254 total games
(ties count as half wins so 36/2=18, add 18 to 904=922
922/1255=.7346

ND 866w's. 301L's 42T's .7336% 1209 total games
42/2=21 21+866=887/1209=.7336

If ND wins this week
UM 922/1256=.7340
ND 888/1210=.7338 :(

For fun-if ND wins and UM loses in week 3
UM 922/1258=.7334
ND 889/1211=.7341 :)

Source
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/NCAA_Division_I_FBS_football_win-loss_records
*These numbers do not include week 1 victories so I added them in to my calculations.
 
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I would take that in a heartbeat obviously... hell, I'd take 2-0 if it's in ND's favor...
 

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I thougt we were still slightely behind them. I knew it could change this year though depending on how we both do. I also thought we were at .734 and they were at .735.

Yeah... who is right here and who is wrong?
 

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Our DL played quite well last year, and should do even better this year against a rebuilt interior UM line. Toss in some ILB blitzes (see the film breakdown from OFD) and pressure shouldn't be an issue.

Yeah the interior OL is rebuilt, but Michigan's interior OL really, really sucked last year. In 2011 they were playing Schofield at LG and had one of the best centers in the country in Dave Molk. In 2012, Schofield moved out to RT, Ricky Barnum got the start at LG and Elliot Mealer got the start at C. Ricky Barnum was 6-2, 240 in high school and Patrick Omameh was 6-4, 230. Those players topped out in the 280's/290's and were not recruited for the type of offense that Michigan tried to run last year, they were recruited for a spread offense that goes east/west, not one that lines up in the pro-set and tries to blow defenders off the ball. Elliot Mealer probably should have never been starting at Michigan ever, and a player of his caliber will probably never start going forward with how these coaches have attacked the OL recruiting. I'll chalk that one up to Rodriguez being absolutely terrible at recruiting OL's and depth across the board.

Kyle Kalis is 6-5, 300+ and was recruited for that type of offense. Graham Glasgow was a preferred walk-on but he also happens to be 6-6, 310 pounds and he played even better than Kyle Kalis against CMU. I think Glasgow is a legit option going forward. Jack Miller, like I thought he would be, was the weakest link on the OL against CMU. Miller was another one of those 240 pound OL recruits of Rodriguez that was recruited to play in a different system. Borges said in his presser that Glasgow was still taking snaps at C in practice and that they might toy with the line-up. If Glasgow moves to center and Chris Bryant gets the start at LG, that is pretty big interior OL and a much improved one over what they trotted out last year IMO.
 
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Yeah the interior OL is rebuilt, but Michigan's interior OL really, really sucked last year. In 2011 they were playing Schofield at LG and had one of the best centers in the country in Dave Molk. In 2012, Schofield moved out to RT, Ricky Barnum got the start at LG and Elliot Mealer got the start at C. Ricky Barnum was 6-2, 240 in high school and Patrick Omameh was 6-4, 230. Those players topped out in the 280's/290's and were not recruited for the type of offense that Michigan tried to run last year, they were recruited for a spread offense that goes east/west, not one that lines up in the pro-set and tries to blow defenders off the ball. Elliot Mealer probably should have never been starting at Michigan ever, and a player of his caliber will probably never start going forward with how these coaches have attacked the OL recruiting. I'll chalk that one up to Rodriguez being absolutely terrible at recruiting OL's and depth across the board.

Kyle Kalis is 6-5, 300+ and was recruited for that type of offense. Graham Glasgow was a preferred walk-on but he also happens to be 6-6, 310 pounds and he played even better than Kyle Kalis against CMU. I think Glasgow is a legit option going forward. Jack Miller, like I thought he would be, was the weakest link on the OL against CMU. Miller was another one of those 240 pound OL recruits of Rodriguez that was recruited to play in a different system. Borges said in his presser that Glasgow was still taking snaps at C in practice and that they might toy with the line-up. If Glasgow moves to center and Chris Bryant gets the start at LG, that is pretty big interior OL and a much improved one over what they trotted out last year IMO.

Omameh, Mealer and Barnum all signed as UFA's, no? Yes, they were undersized for the type of MANBALL that Borges wants to play, but by no means did they "really, really suck".

And I agree that your current interior OL have higher ceilings than the 3 guys they replaced. But there's simply no way that those guys, starting in their 2nd game, are going to outplay Omameh, Mealer and Barnum. So as far as this Saturday is concerned, UM has taken a step back at interior OL.
 
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You're really underselling these guys. I don't think the first half against Temple was fairly representative of their ability for a number of reasons, but we'll see this Saturday night.

Do you think they're NFL caliber players? I mean I'm personally just dying for a Brian Smith to walk back through the door much less a Manti Te'o. I don't think either of them is "good"... they're passable against lesser teams, but they are the weakest link of the defense for sure.

Are you still planning on writing that article? Sorting opposing QBs by mobile/ immobile might be misleading here as far as schematic weakness is concerned. Some of the mobile QBs we've faced recently have been insanely good (Luck, Robinson, etc.)

Yeah, should be posted up today. TP is slacking ;) I think part of my worry is that I actually went and broke down some tape/talked to coaches in writing this thing... and the takeaway I always kept coming back to is:
1) If you can't set the edge, you are doomed.
2) If you can't contain, you are doomed.
3) If your linebackers can't play fast in space or cover sideline-to-sideline, you are doomed.

I think we can probably do all but #3. #1 might be hard with Jaylon, but Councell is a big freaking dude who is also pretty darn fast. #3.... man, if there is something our ILBs aren't it's fast and instinctual in space.

Our DL played quite well last year, and should do even better this year against a rebuilt interior UM line. Toss in some ILB blitzes (see the film breakdown from OFD) and pressure shouldn't be an issue.

I think Michigan's OL is vastly superior to last year's. They replaced scrappy vets on the inside with young guys who can play. Too bad Lewan didn't leave early... then I would agree with you.

Either way, if I'm in Vegas I'm taking ND +4.5 every time. Although the line continuing to move smells to me and I wonder if something is afoot... assuming a "straight up" game there is no way you don't take ND with the points. But I think most people are greatly underestimating the ability Gardner has to take over the game with his athletic ability. He's basically a gigantic 5:s: WR back there. And for all that we expect ND to unveil some new stuff from the playbook... for all we know they come out with Gardner running some Kaeprnick-esque pistol and we just get shredded. I'm just saying, do not underestimate our liabilities and the potential Michigan has to exploit them. It's very real.
 

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I got it from a poster on II who is questioning it. Saying it must be breaking some sort of rules. To have roughly 80,000 people waving those at night could be very distracting. It makes me want our guys to beat the **** out of those dbags that much more.
 

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Supposedly radio controlled as well so they are all synced

So they'll probably activate them in some seizure inducing pattern right as Tommy gets ready to snap the ball or some shenanigans like that lol...

Why not just take it the extra mile and give everyone radio controlled floodlights to blind our WRs as the ball is coming in?
 

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For someone that may know, this has to be the first time that something like this has happened right?
 

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So they'll probably activate them in some seizure inducing pattern right as Tommy gets ready to snap the ball or some shenanigans like that lol...

Why not just take it the extra mile and give everyone radio controlled floodlights to blind our WRs as the ball is coming in?

This was exactly thought... wtf!?!
 

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I got it from a poster on II who is questioning it. Saying it must be breaking some sort of rules. To have roughly 80,000 people waving those at night could be very distracting. It makes me want our guys to beat the **** out of those dbags that much more.

Yeah, you would think this would break some sort of lighting rules. I know there are MINIMUM foot-candle requirements for games... but I wonder if there is a maximum or any sort of rule on non-steady lighting.
 

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Omameh, Mealer and Barnum all signed as UFA's, no? Yes, they were undersized for the type of MANBALL that Borges wants to play, but by no means did they "really, really suck".

And I agree that your current interior OL have higher ceilings than the 3 guys they replaced. But there's simply no way that those guys, starting in their 2nd game, are going to outplay Omameh, Mealer and Barnum. So as far as this Saturday is concerned, UM has taken a step back at interior OL.

They got signed as UFA's, but so what? All 3 got cut, not one made a team. I look at guys getting drafted by the NFL more so than guys getting signed as UFA's anyway. Michigan hasn't had players get drafted lately, the talent level had been way down under Rodriguez. And yes, those three really, really did suck last year. If the new guys do outplay Omameh, Mealer, or Barnum I would not be surprised, as the bar is set very low.

I don't think Jack Miller is the answer at center, but his only true back-up is a true freshman. If Ben Braden (6-6, 322) or Chris Bryant (6-4, 325) could play LG they could flip Glasgow to C, which imo would be ideal.
 

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Someone needs to write the NCAA ASAP on this nonsense. It would be one thing if they were just on all the time and not radio controlled... it's this synchronized radio controlled nonsense that is just obvious garbage and gamesmanship.
 

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So they'll probably activate them in some seizure inducing pattern right as Tommy gets ready to snap the ball or some shenanigans like that lol...

Why not just take it the extra mile and give everyone radio controlled floodlights to blind our WRs as the ball is coming in?
Yep. I nearly had a seizure looking at image.
 

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This is unreal... the only thing I can think is it looks worse in thie link than it is in reality and the light itself is faint to the point of a non factor... if it lives up to the link that is some serious dirty shizzz....
 
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This is unreal... the only thing I can think is it looks ini the link worse than it is and the light itself is faint to the point of a non factor... if it lives up to the link that is some serious dirty shizzz....

I've seen this kind of thing done at concerts and it ABSOLUTELY would mess with your ability to see/concentrate if your vision background all of a sudden started strobing all at once.

This is total bush league garbage. The team should refuse to take the field if they go through with this. Who knows... maybe this is why the Vegas line has been slowwwwwwwly creeping.
 

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Could they possibly be radio controlled to turn them off during gameplay? If not, I really don't see how this type of thing could be legal.
 

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Considering that our players are going to have to track football in the air with these in the background, is crap. Pure crap. We may be putting too much into this but I doubt it.
 

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Could they possibly be radio controlled to turn them off during gameplay? If not, I really don't see how this type of thing could be legal.

This is what I was thinking. Or perhaps so they are all flashing on the same beat.
 

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I have to admit, if they sync them up for a half-time show, it would be pretty cool. I just hope they don't interfere with gameplay.
 

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You gotta say though, they do their under the lights way better than we do. We got dark blue towels for our first game, they got yellow pom-poms, the entire stadium. Now this?

Pretty cool
 
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