Sep 12 | Virginia

[PANDFAN]

Kelly in his presser right now just said it was unfortunate that Showtime released the clip of Stanley turning down the captaincy. I haven't seen the show yet, can any one elaborate on this?

That was all that was supposedly shown...giving no context as to why but he won't comment on it...Bk did say nothing questioning his character or leadership etc

 

[IRISHbluehen]

Showtime didn't, at least not in the first episode that covered captaincy.

I believe the clip being referred to was from an online promo for the episode.

 

[dad4aa]

I believe the clip being referred to was from an online promo for the episode.

This is correct

 

[Sherm Sticky]

Sep 12 | Virginia

Anyone know why he turned it down? Felt someone else was more deserving?


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[wizards8507]

My guess is that it's just not his personality.

 

[zelezo vlk]

My guess is that it's just not his personality.

This was my thought as well

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[GoldenDomer]

This got me excited

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Man, those were the days.

 

[koonja]

This got me excited

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Man, those were the days.

Tony Rice and Todd Lyght were GD bosses.

 

[Crazy Balki]

No and I think that Nebraska game was a factor of two things....1 - Nebraska did travel a lot that day & 2 - There was a ND shirt made for the game making fun on Nebraska and that shirt was red. Made it look worse than what it was (it was still bad tho).

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Wow....just wow...even at Notre Dame, idiocy can be found. It really takes a special kind of moron to think that was a good idea. "Hey guys! Nebraska's coming up, and here's what we're gonna do...we're gonna wear red anti-Nebraska shirts. Sure, they won't be able to read the damn shirts from a couple hundred feet away, but they will feel the utter poetry in our words that they cannot read. It's genius!"

 

[Bogtrotter07]

I would love to play high stake poker with Brian Kelly!

I would love to play high stake poker with Brian Kelly!

Some people are close to the vest, cool to the bone players. And some people are lousy at concealing anything. Both of these groups exclude Brian Kelly.

Coach is of a third type, a whole different constitution entirely. Coach Kelly doesn't think he has any tells. Does he practice in front of the mirror? Not necessarily. But he is pretty transparent for not trying to say or give anything up!

His enthusiasm coming into the season was as clear as it was in this week's media exposures that his team for the first time since he was coach did nothing wrong. Or should I say was approaching the game exactly as he preferred.
He was lightheartedly kidding about Josh Adams' freshmanitus;
He was straight forward about the two freshman running back's progress;
He talked about Malik with an affinity and respect I have not seen him bestow upon a quarterback since he has been at Notre Dame;
He was pretty uncharacteristically complementary about the progress of every player mentioned, especially even Peter Mokwuah, with whom he gave a positive review without any reservation, humorous or otherwise; and,
His answer about Ronnie Stanley and the captaincy was particularly telling in that he said he wasn't going to disclose anything, and then he told everything important.

I haven't seen a coach show support of a player better ever. I believe Kelly would bleed a lot for this team! And like his reaction in his support of Stanley, that is becoming the norm for this team. Which is an incredible dynamic, and the greatest tell of all.

Speaking of Stanley, I think that the captaincy issue for Stanley was a matter of true leadership and maturity on his part. I do have twinges of exasperation with those that try to manufacture it being because of a shortcoming on the part of Ronnie. I will always hold the honor of Kelly's response attesting to the character of Ronnie Stanley, after he said he was not going to disclose anything . . .

 

[Bogtrotter07]

This got me excited

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Man, those were the days.

Yes, they were!

(But one of the few things I have against Lou Holtz is his under utilization of Ricky Waters. I think he would have amped up his college career to the level of his pro career and carried the Irish on his back a couple of times at least, like he did the 49ers in the Superbowl.

 

[PANDFAN]

Anyone know why he turned it down? Felt someone else was more deserving?


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“That’s something between myself and our team,” Kelly said. “I think it’s unfortunate it got out. But here’s what I will say: I can tell you that I have no problem with Ronnie representing our football team. His integrity, his character is not in question here. And certainly I wouldn’t say that if it were something bigger than was such that I’d have to back away from that. And I think you guys can read into that.
“He’s still a captain in our minds in terms of how he handles himself on a day-to-day basis. I think it was big of Ronnie the way he handled himself.”
For those challenged to read between Kelly’s lines, Stanley appears unable to accept captaincy due to a University rule or decision rather than that of his head coach.
How utterly familiar…
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[wizards8507]

“That’s something between myself and our team,” Kelly said. “I think it’s unfortunate it got out. But here’s what I will say: I can tell you that I have no problem with Ronnie representing our football team. His integrity, his character is not in question here. And certainly I wouldn’t say that if it were something bigger than was such that I’d have to back away from that. And I think you guys can read into that.
“He’s still a captain in our minds in terms of how he handles himself on a day-to-day basis. I think it was big of Ronnie the way he handled himself.”
For those challenged to read between Kelly’s lines, Stanley appears unable to accept captaincy due to a University rule or decision rather than that of his head coach.
How utterly familiar…
scout

So he wasn't allowed to accept captaincy? Everything up until that implication from Scout seemed to indicate that the elected not to accept captaincy.

 

[Old Man Mike]

I'm still "Challenged" about lack of understanding this comment.

"University rule or decision...?"

 

[wizards8507]

I'm still "Challenged" about lack of understanding this comment.

"University rule or decision...?"

Minimum GPA or something.

 

[Cackalacky]

Not understanding.... What rule would prevent him from accepting a captaincy?

 

[Old Man Mike]

ND has a inside rule for a captaincy that's a higher GPA than other eligible players?

 

[wizards8507]

ND has a inside rule for a captaincy that's a higher GPA than other eligible players?

That seems to be what Scout is implying.

I know Kelly had to run a list of like ten players by administration to be eligible for captaincy, but I though he said that all ten came back eligible. I assumed it to be disciplinary record, making sure the guy would be a good representative of the program, etc.

 

[Bogtrotter07]

Does the administration, or school, not allowing a team to have more than five captains count as a possibility for an insane rule in this case?

 

[GoldenToTheGrave]

Does being a captain really mean anything besides the honors when it comes down to it? Except I suppose doing the coin toss (woopty-doo). I think Kelly said all he needed to.

 

[wizards8507]

Does being a captain really mean anything besides the honors when it comes down to it? Except I suppose doing the coin toss (woopty-doo). I think Kelly said all he needed to.

Yes. The defensive line meetings, for example, are described as "Sheldon Day's room," as in "he runs that room."

 

[Huntr]

Yes. The defensive line meetings, for example, are described as "Sheldon Day's room," as in "he runs that room."

He doesn't own that room because he has a C on his chest and some non-football committee gave him the ok.

 

[stlnd01]

ND has a inside rule for a captaincy that's a higher GPA than other eligible players?

I can't cite du Lac on it but I believe there are various states of probation (both academic and disciplinary) that would block you from holding leadership positions in student activities. Maybe something like that here?

 

[dwshade]

This got me excited

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Man, those were the days.

How odd is it to see receivers in a three point stance. I didn't even remember that.

 

[pumpdog20]

Does being a captain really mean anything besides the honors when it comes down to it? Except I suppose doing the coin toss (woopty-doo). I think Kelly said all he needed to.

Well Connor Cook was pretty upset at not being a captain, so I'll say yes.

 

[Luckylucci]

When KVR was told by Swarbrick that he was made Captain just prior to being suspended is when I first realized that the Captains at ND have to be approved from somewhere other than just the locker room. I had previously not known that. I'm assuming this has something to do with that but not much more than that.

 

[wizards8507]

When KVR was told by Swarbrick that he was made Captain just prior to being suspended is when I first realized that the Captains at ND have to be approved from somewhere other than just the locker room. I had previously not known that. I'm assuming this has something to do with that but not much more than that.

Kind of, but I think it's a bit more nuanced than that. It's not like the administration says "these guys must be your captains." They're still selected by the players and coaches, the administration just has final approval over those selections.

 

[koonja]

I don't think this is a big deal at all, but I do think the HC should have full say in who's captain. ND hired the HC, and if he's anointing someone with a 2.1 GPA who's a clown outside of football, we have bigger problems.

 

[woolybug25]

Kind of, but I think it's a bit more nuanced than that. It's not like the administration says "these guys must be your captains." They're still selected by the players and coaches, the administration just has final approval over those selections.

Why is this? Seems incredibly petty that the administration has any call in who the team makes a captain. Should they start rubber stamping who starts as well?

 

[ulukinatme]

I'm alright with the higher ups giving the "ok" for a player to be a captain, within reason. You could have the most popular player on the team, but if he's a below average student or has some other unforeseen factors, it's probably better if someone steps in and vetoes that player's nomination. That said, I can't imagine many players would get nixed on captain, most of the players are great student athlete examples and very few have any character issues. If they do, they seem to get weeded out on their own and leave.