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Exactly. First he tried the "we are liberating them from Nazi's" approach but that failed because Zelensky and others were able to get on TV and show quite clearly that they are NOT Nazi's. Then they tried to say that Ukraine was building a dirty bomb. That also failed, because they couldn't produce any evidence. They also tried "NATO made us do it" and a bunch of other stuff.
They never thought to go the "biolabs" route -- because it's ridiculous to anyone with a brain and trafficking in facts -- until some QAnon dude got it trending in a small group of fringe idiots. Then Russia seized on it (as did China and anyone else looking for an angle to justify support of Russia).
This angle works because: 1) COVID (and therefor any talk of "pathogens" or "lab leaks") is a politicized and divisive topic that people have strong opinions on 2) international science and research is a complex topic whereas "they're Nazis" is not 3) because they got certain people to give it credibility by talking about it on programs people trust.
It is what it is. I think this thread has been really interesting because there are a lot of people with different opinions and no "right" answer. That makes for good discussion. But regardless of different opinions and discussion on what the US should do, it's been very clear that the entire world has basically been united in agreement of the fact that Russia is the bad guy; the aggressor; committing war crimes; and unjustified in their attack on Ukraine. What Russia is going to do here is try to divide people on the idea of "bioweapons" and other spooky buzzwords to cause enough confusion that they can retro-justify what they've done. They are 100% guaranteed to take control of one of these "biolabs" at some point and fabricate what they found or what Ukraine // NATO was nefariously plotting. And when that happens, keep your eyes on who parrots talking points from the Kremlin and who doesn't.
Even if true - why would Russians want to release a Covid2.0 superbug? It would spread on their own people as hard and fast as any? However the main reason I knew it was bogus was the war hawks didn't latch on. That bi-partisan ruling class hell bent on going to war could have jumped on board and dusted off the WMD playbook pretty easily.
Tulsi can be wrong on bioBS and also right in calling Romney a neocon turd.
I am equally intrigued and concerned by the dynamic of global finance and trade alienating a major country. Seems horribly effective especially as time is applied, maybe too effective.
