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My though with Amir and Chase is that they were medical redshirts, so they'll likley get a chance to play their 4th years. I'll think that will certainly happen with Amir, so I'll cahnge it for Chase.

I don't think KR is coming back and I am not going to jinx it!

Amir's "medical redshirt" is no different than a normal redshirt because he only missed one season (2012) due to injury. It's no different than if he hadn't received the waiver to play immediately upon transfer and sat out the 2012 season. Chase's situation is different because he missed two seasons (2012 + 2013) to injury. That makes him eligible for a 6th year in 2016 in the event he is asked back in 2015. Neither are "guaranteed" to come back any more than the 13 other 5Y candidates. These are just two of the many tough 5Y decisions on the horizon.

Re: KVR, if anything you're jinxing it by taking him off a list he belongs on, but it's your list. I hope he blows up this season and really makes it a hard decision. As much as I'd like him back in 2015, no player on our team besides Golson could have as big of an impact on our W-L this season than KVR. I think he returns, but I wasn't very accurate on my predictions this year (Tuitt, Niklas) so who knows.
 

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Amir's "medical redshirt" is no different than a normal redshirt because he only missed one season (2012) due to injury. It's no different than if he hadn't received the waiver to play immediately upon transfer and sat out the 2012 season. Chase's situation is different because he missed two seasons (2012 + 2013) to injury. That makes him eligible for a 6th year in 2016 in the event he is asked back in 2015. Neither are "guaranteed" to come back any more than the 13 other 5Y candidates. These are just two of the many tough 5Y decisions on the horizon.

Re: KVR, if anything you're jinxing it by taking him off a list he belongs on, but it's your list. I hope he blows up this season and really makes it a hard decision. As much as I'd like him back in 2015, no player on our team besides Golson could have as big of an impact on our W-L this season than KVR. I think he returns, but I wasn't very accurate on my predictions this year (Tuitt, Niklas) so who knows.

I guess I mean that I assume they are going to give him his eligibility, as a matter of course, since he was a high profile transfer. I moved him for you, though!

I feel the opposite on KVR, but I hope you're right.
 

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Forgive me Whiskey, Hunter is OUT?? I thought it was a few weeks... also, out for 2012 season?? ;)

Very well done overall.
 

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Forgive me Whiskey, Hunter is OUT?? I thought it was a few weeks... also, out for 2012 season?? ;)

Very well done overall.

I think Whiskey just said fuck 'em and decided HE was done with Hunter for '14.
 

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Forgive me Whiskey, Hunter is OUT?? I thought it was a few weeks... also, out for 2012 season?? ;)

Very well done overall.

Is that what the legend says the color red indicates? I'm on my phone, so I can't check it.

You obviously know that ain't the case. Kelly said he's the only guy who won't be available against Rice, so I put him in red for now.
 

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Is MVG on scholarship or no?
 

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I didn't think it was possible for the composite #2 player coming out of HS to exceed expectations, but somehow he has.
 

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Here is where I see us, may need some corrections:

QB
1) Everett Golson, RSS
2) Malik Zaire, Jr. '17
3) Deshone Kizer, So. '18

RB
4) Tarean Folston, Jr. '16
5) Greg Bryant, Jr. '17

WR-slot
6) Amir Carlisle, Sr. '15
7) C.J. Prosise, Sr. '15
8) Torii Hunter, Jr. '17

WR-boundary
9) Chris Brown, Sr. '15
10) Will Fuller, Jr. '16
11) Corey Robinson, Jr. '16
12) Corey Holmes, So. ?
13) Justin Brent, So. ?

TE
14) Mike Heuerman, Jr. '17
15) Durham Smythe, Jr. '17
16) Tyler Luatua, So. '17
17) Nic Weishar, So. ?

OT
18) Ronnie Stanley, Sr. ‘16
19) Mike McGlinchey, Jr. '17
20) Alex Bars, So. ?

OT/OG
21) Hunter Biven, So. '17
22) Steven Elmer, Jr. '16
23) Quentin Nelson, So. ?

OG/C
24) Nick Martin, RSS
25) Matt Hegarty, RSS
26) Mark Harrell, Sr. '16
27) Colin McGovern, Jr. '17
28) John Montelus, Jr. '17
29) Jimmy Byrne, So. ?
30) Sam Mustipher, So. ?

DT
31) Sheldon Day, Sr. '15
32) Jarron Jones, Sr. '16
33) Jacob Matuska, Jr. '17
34) Daniel Cage, So. '17
35) Peter Mokwuah, So. ?

SDE
36) Isaac Rochell, Fr. '16
37) Grant Blankenship, So. '17
38) Jay Hayes, So. ?

Rush End (WDE)
39) Romeo Okwara, Sr. '15
40) Andrew Trumbetti, So. '17
41) Kolin Hill, So. '17
42) Jhonnie Williams, So. ?
43) Jonathan Bonner, So. ?

SAM
44) Jaylon Smith, Jr. '16
45) Dough Randolph, Jr. '17
46) Greer Martini, So. '17

MIKE
47) Joe Schmidt, RSS
48) Michael Deeb, Jr. '17
49) Nyles Morgan, So. '17

WILL
50) John Turner, Sr. '16
51) James Onwualu, Jr. '16

LB/S
52) Dru Tranquil, So. '17

SS
53) Elijah Shumate, Sr. '15

FS
54) Max Redfield, Jr. '16

CB
55) Cole Luke, Jr. '16
56) Devin Butler, Jr. '16
57) Nick Watkins, So. ?

ST
58) Scott Daly, Jr. '16
59) Tyler Newsome

Very Likely Redshirts (I already included Golson, Hegarty, and Martin)
60) Matthias Farley
61) Joe Schmidt

Recruits
62) QB- Brandon Wimbush
63) RB1 (ATH)- Josh Adams
64) WR1- Jalen Guyton
65) WR2- CJ Sanders
66) WR3- Miles Boykin
67) OL1- Jerry Tillery
68) OL2- Tristen Hoge
69) OL3- Trevor Ruhland
70) DT1- Brandon Tiassum
71) DT2- Elijah Taylor
72) DT/DE - Micah Dew-Treadway
73) LB1- Josh Barajas
74) CB1 - Nick Coleman
75) CB2 - Shaun Crawford
76) CB4- Ashton White
77) S - Nicco Fertitta
78) S - Prentice McKinney
79) K- Justin Yoon

Limbo?
80) KeiVarae Russell, Sr. '15

Recruiting Needs
81) RB2 -
82) WR4 -
83) WDE-
84) LB2-
85) LB3-
86) DB6-

High Value Redshirts (depending on health)
Conor Hanratty
Jarrett Grace
Eliar Hardy
Ishaq Williams???

Other Redshirt Possibilities
Chase Hounsell
Anthony Rabasa
Jalen Brown
 
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Good lord, Safety is thin-- I hadn't truly noticed until now. I'd have to think Farley would be a no-brainer to bring back, based on his steady play this year and lack of depth. Hardy as a possibility as well (assuming he's eligible...and a decision is reached by then).

I suppose Turner could move back to Safety, but then who would be JO's back up? LB depth isn't exactly brimming either.
 

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Added Russell back in:

QB
1) Everett Golson, RSS
2) Malik Zaire, Jr. '17
3) Deshone Kizer, So. '18

RB
4) Tarean Folston, Jr. '16
5) Greg Bryant, Jr. '17

WR-slot
6) Amir Carlisle, Sr. '15
7) C.J. Prosise, Sr. '15
8) Torii Hunter, Jr. '17

WR-boundary
9) Chris Brown, Sr. '15
10) Will Fuller, Jr. '16
11) Corey Robinson, Jr. '16
12) Corey Holmes, So. ?
13) Justin Brent, So. ?

TE
14) Mike Heuerman, Jr. '17
15) Durham Smythe, Jr. '17
16) Tyler Luatua, So. '17
17) Nic Weishar, So. ?

OT
18) Ronnie Stanley, Sr. ‘16
19) Mike McGlinchey, Jr. '17
20) Alex Bars, So. ?

OT/OG
21) Hunter Biven, So. '17
22) Steven Elmer, Jr. '16
23) Quentin Nelson, So. ?

OG/C
24) Nick Martin, RSS
25) Matt Hegarty, RSS
26) Mark Harrell, Sr. '16
27) Colin McGovern, Jr. '17
28) John Montelus, Jr. '17
29) Jimmy Byrne, So. ?
30) Sam Mustipher, So. ?

DT
31) Sheldon Day, Sr. '15
32) Jarron Jones, Sr. '16
33) Jacob Matuska, Jr. '17
34) Daniel Cage, So. '17
35) Peter Mokwuah, So. ?

SDE
36) Isaac Rochell, Fr. '16
37) Grant Blankenship, So. '17
38) Jay Hayes, So. ?

Rush End (WDE)
39) Romeo Okwara, Sr. '15
40) Andrew Trumbetti, So. '17
41) Kolin Hill, So. '17
42) Jhonnie Williams, So. ?
43) Jonathan Bonner, So. ?

SAM
44) Jaylon Smith, Jr. '16
45) Dough Randolph, Jr. '17
46) Greer Martini, So. '17

MIKE
47) Joe Schmidt, RSS
48) Michael Deeb, Jr. '17
49) Nyles Morgan, So. '17

WILL
50) John Turner, Sr. '16
51) James Onwualu, Jr. '16

LB/S
52) Dru Tranquil, So. '17

SS
53) Elijah Shumate, Sr. '15

FS
54) Max Redfield, Jr. '16

CB
55) Kevarie Russell, Sr. '15
56) Cole Luke, Jr. '16
57) Devin Butler, Jr. '16
58) Nick Watkins, So. ?

ST
59) Scott Daly, Jr. '16
60) Tyler Newsome

Very Likely Redshirts (I already included Golson, Hegarty, and Martin)
61) Matthias Farley
62) Joe Schmidt

Recruits
63) QB- Brandon Wimbush
64) RB1 (ATH)- Josh Adams
65) WR1- Jalen Guyton
66) WR2- CJ Sanders
67) WR3- Miles Boykin
68) OL1- Jerry Tillery
69) OL2- Tristen Hoge
70) OL3- Trevor Ruhland
71) DT1- Brandon Tiassum
72) DT2- Elijah Taylor
73) DT/DE - Micah Dew-Treadway
74) LB1- Josh Barajas
75) CB1 - Nick Coleman
76) CB2 - Shaun Crawford
77) CB4- Ashton White
78) S - Nicco Fertitta
79) S - Prentice McKinney
80) K- Justin Yoon

Limbo?
81) KeiVarae Russell, Sr. '15

Recruiting Needs
82) RB2 -
83) WR4 -
84) WDE-
85) LB2-
??) LB3-
??) DB6-

High Value Redshirts (depending on health)
Conor Hanratty
Jarrett Grace
Eliar Hardy
Ishaq Williams???

Other Redshirt Possibilities
Chase Hounsell
Anthony Rabasa
Jalen Brown
 

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for 2015?

yes. We are scheduled to have 10-11 spots, before possible transfers and declarations of the draft. It's all updated on the first page, but I'll bump it here for people to see also:

2015 Open Spots – 10
(85 - (Roster + Commits))

Roster – 57

Quarterbacks - 3
Malik Zaire (Rso)
DeShone Kizer (So)
Montgomery VanGorder (So)

Runningbacks - 2
Tarean Folston (Jr)
Greg Bryant (Rso)

Slot/RB- 2
C.J. Prosise (Rjr)
Torii Hunter Jr. (Rso)

Wide Receivers - 5
Chris Brown (Sr)
Corey Robinson (Jr)
Will Fuller (Jr)
Justin Brent (So)
Corey Holmes (So)

Tight Ends - 4
Durham Smythe (Rso)
Mike Heuerman (Rso)
Nic Weishar (So)
Tyler Luatua (So)

Offensive Line - 11
Ronnie Stanley (Rjr)
Mark Harrell (Rjr)
Steve Elmer (Jr)
Colin McGovern (Rso)
Mike McGlinchey (Rso)
Hunter Bivin (Rso)
John Montelus (Rso)
Alex Bars (So)
Quentin Nelson (So)
Jimmy Byrne (So)
Sam Mustipher (So)

Interior Defensive Line – 5
Sheldon Day (Sr)
Jarron Jones (Rjr)
Jay Hayes (So)
Pete Mokwuah (So)
Daniel Cage (So)

Defensive Ends - 7
Romeo Okwara (Sr)
Isaac Rochell (Jr)
Jacob Matuska (Rso)
Andrew Trumbetti (So)
Jonathan Bonner (So)
Grant Blankenship (So)
Jhonathon Williams (So)

Linebacker – 8
John Turner (Rjr)
Jaylon Smith (Jr)
James Onuwalu (Jr)
Michael Deeb (Rso)
Doug Randolph (Rso)
Nyles Morgan (So)
Greer Martini (So)
Kolin Hill (So)

Cornerbacks - 4
KeiVarae Russell (RJr) (Returning 2015)
Cole Luke (Jr)
Devin Butler (Jr)
Nick Watkins (So)

Safeties – 4
Elijah Shumate (Sr)
Nicky Baratti (Rjr)*
Max Redfield (Jr)
Drue Tranquill (So)

Special Teams - 2
Scott Daly (Rjr) - LS
Tyler Newsome (So) - K/P

Commits - 18
QB - Brandon Wimbush
RB - Josh Adams
WR - Jaylen Guyton
WR - Miles Boykin
WR/Slot - C.J. Sanders
OL - Jerry Tillery
OL - Trevor Ruhland
OL - Tristen Hoge
DL - Micah Dew-Treadway
DL - Brandon Tiassum
DL - Elijah Taylor
LB - Josh Barajas
CB - Nick Coleman
CB - Shaun Crawford
CB/S - Ashton White
S - Nicco Fretitto
S - Prentice McKinney
K - Justin Yoon

5th Year Eligible - 15
QB - Everett Golson
Slot WR - Amir Carlisle
WR - Davaris Daniels**
C/G - Nick Martin
G/C - Matthew Hegarty
C/G - Conor Hanratty
DT - Chase Hounshell
DE - Ishaq Williams**
DE - Anthony Rabasa
LB - Jarrett Grace*
LB - Joe Schmidt
LB - Ben Councell
CB - Jalen Brown
CB/S - Eilar Hardy**
CB/S - Matthias Farley

Key:
* injured
** under academic investigation


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VanGorder has a scholarship? What a waste...

Supposedly it allows him to run the scout team full-time, which allows Kizer to learn the system in case injuries thrust him into a game.

We have no idea whether it's a four-year scholarship or not, I would expect that it isn't.
 

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Supposedly it allows him to run the scout team full-time, which allows Kizer to learn the system in case injuries thrust him into a game.

We have no idea whether it's a four-year scholarship or not, I would expect that it isn't.


Is he not allowed to run the scout team as a walk-on?


Why would you expect it isn't? When did ND start giving freshman one year scholarships?
 

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Hey, I'd give up several schollies for the way BVG has been coaching up the D.
 

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Is he not allowed to run the scout team as a walk-on?


Why would you expect it isn't? When did ND start giving freshman one year scholarships?

Those are the same questions I was going to ask. Is there a rule for walk-ons and ND rarely, if ever gives out a scholarship and then takes it away the next year.
 

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2015 Open Spots – 9
(85 - (Roster + Commits))

Roster – 57

Quarterbacks - 3
Malik Zaire (Rso)
DeShone Kizer (So)
Montgomery VanGorder (So)

Runningbacks - 2
Tarean Folston (Jr)
Greg Bryant (Rso)

Slot/RB- 2
C.J. Prosise (Rjr)
Torii Hunter Jr. (Rso)

Wide Receivers - 5
Chris Brown (Sr)
Corey Robinson (Jr)
Will Fuller (Jr)
Justin Brent (So)
Corey Holmes (So)

Tight Ends - 4
Durham Smythe (Rso)
Mike Heuerman (Rso)
Nic Weishar (So)
Tyler Luatua (So)

Offensive Line - 11
Ronnie Stanley (Rjr)
Mark Harrell (Rjr)
Steve Elmer (Jr)
Colin McGovern (Rso)
Mike McGlinchey (Rso)
Hunter Bivin (Rso)
John Montelus (Rso)
Alex Bars (So)
Quentin Nelson (So)
Jimmy Byrne (So)
Sam Mustipher (So)

Interior Defensive Line – 5
Sheldon Day (Sr)
Jarron Jones (Rjr)
Jay Hayes (So)
Pete Mokwuah (So)
Daniel Cage (So)

Defensive Ends - 7
Romeo Okwara (Sr)
Isaac Rochell (Jr)
Jacob Matuska (Rso)
Andrew Trumbetti (So)
Jonathan Bonner (So)
Grant Blankenship (So)
Jhonathon Williams (So)

Linebacker – 8
John Turner (Rjr)
Jaylon Smith (Jr)
James Onuwalu (Jr)
Michael Deeb (Rso)
Doug Randolph (Rso)
Nyles Morgan (So)
Greer Martini (So)
Kolin Hill (So)

Cornerbacks - 4
KeiVarae Russell (RJr) (Returning 2015)
Cole Luke (Jr)
Devin Butler (Jr)
Nick Watkins (So)

Safeties – 4
Elijah Shumate (Sr)
Nicky Baratti (Rjr)*
Max Redfield (Jr)
Drue Tranquill (So)

Special Teams - 2
Scott Daly (Rjr) - LS
Tyler Newsome (So) - K/P

Commits - 19
QB - Brandon Wimbush
RB - Josh Adams
WR - Jaylen Guyton
WR - Miles Boykin
WR/Slot - C.J. Sanders
OL - Jerry Tillery
OL - Trevor Ruhland
OL - Tristen Hoge
DL - Micah Dew-Treadway
DL - Brandon Tiassum
DL - Elijah Taylor
LB/DE - Bo Wallace
LB - Josh Barajas
CB - Nick Coleman
CB - Shaun Crawford
CB/S - Ashton White
S - Nicco Fretitto
S - Prentice McKinney
K - Justin Yoon

5th Year Eligible - 15
QB - Everett Golson
Slot WR - Amir Carlisle
WR - Davaris Daniels**
C/G - Nick Martin
G/C - Matthew Hegarty
C/G - Conor Hanratty
DT - Chase Hounshell
DE - Ishaq Williams**
DE - Anthony Rabasa
LB - Jarrett Grace*
LB - Joe Schmidt
LB - Ben Councell
CB - Jalen Brown
CB/S - Eilar Hardy**
CB/S - Matthias Farley

Key:
* injured
** under academic investigation


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9-10 spots depending on Baratti's injury status, before declarations, transfers, etc.
 

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2015 Open Spots – 8
(85 - (Roster + Commits))

Roster – 57

Quarterbacks - 3
Malik Zaire (Rso)
DeShone Kizer (So)
Montgomery VanGorder (So)

Runningbacks - 2
Tarean Folston (Jr)
Greg Bryant (Rso)

Slot/RB- 2
C.J. Prosise (Rjr)
Torii Hunter Jr. (Rso)

Wide Receivers - 5
Chris Brown (Sr)
Corey Robinson (Jr)
Will Fuller (Jr)
Justin Brent (So)
Corey Holmes (So)

Tight Ends - 4
Durham Smythe (Rso)
Mike Heuerman (Rso)
Nic Weishar (So)
Tyler Luatua (So)

Offensive Line - 11
Ronnie Stanley (Rjr)
Mark Harrell (Rjr)
Steve Elmer (Jr)
Colin McGovern (Rso)
Mike McGlinchey (Rso)
Hunter Bivin (Rso)
John Montelus (Rso)
Alex Bars (So)
Quentin Nelson (So)
Jimmy Byrne (So)
Sam Mustipher (So)

Interior Defensive Line – 5
Sheldon Day (Sr)
Jarron Jones (Rjr)
Jay Hayes (So)
Pete Mokwuah (So)
Daniel Cage (So)

Defensive Ends - 7
Romeo Okwara (Sr)
Isaac Rochell (Jr)
Jacob Matuska (Rso)
Andrew Trumbetti (So)
Jonathan Bonner (So)
Grant Blankenship (So)
Jhonathon Williams (So)

Linebacker – 8
John Turner (Rjr)
Jaylon Smith (Jr)
James Onuwalu (Jr)
Michael Deeb (Rso)
Doug Randolph (Rso)
Nyles Morgan (So)
Greer Martini (So)
Kolin Hill (So)

Cornerbacks - 4
KeiVarae Russell (RJr) (Returning 2015)
Cole Luke (Jr)
Devin Butler (Jr)
Nick Watkins (So)

Safeties – 4
Elijah Shumate (Sr)
Nicky Baratti (Rjr)*
Max Redfield (Jr)
Drue Tranquill (So)

Special Teams - 2
Scott Daly (Rjr) - LS
Tyler Newsome (So) - K/P

Commits - 20
QB - Brandon Wimbush
RB - Josh Adams
WR - Jaylen Guyton
WR - Miles Boykin
WR/Slot - C.J. Sanders
OL - Jerry Tillery
OL - Trevor Ruhland
OL - Tristen Hoge
DL - Micah Dew-Treadway
DL - Brandon Tiassum
DL - Elijah Taylor
LB/DE - Bo Wallace
LB - Josh Barajas
LB - Asmar Bilal
CB - Nick Coleman
CB - Shaun Crawford
CB/S - Ashton White
S - Nicco Fretitto
S - Prentice McKinney
K - Justin Yoon

5th Year Eligible - 15
QB - Everett Golson
Slot WR - Amir Carlisle
WR - Davaris Daniels**
C/G - Nick Martin
G/C - Matthew Hegarty
C/G - Conor Hanratty
DT - Chase Hounshell
DE - Ishaq Williams**
DE - Anthony Rabasa
LB - Jarrett Grace*
LB - Joe Schmidt
LB - Ben Councell
CB - Jalen Brown
CB/S - Eilar Hardy**
CB/S - Matthias Farley

Key:
* injured
** under academic investigation


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8-9 spots depending on Baratti's injury status, before 5th years, declarations, transfers, etc.
 
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Does Monty VG stay on scholarship when the numbers get tight? That might give us one more to play with ...
 
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