Prince Shembo Charged with Felony Animal Cruelty

[ShawneeIrish]

He's an embarassment to Notre Dame. The school has been dragged theough the mud b of the Seeburg incident (which I do think was blown out o proportion) and instead of thanking God for a second chance and living well he does this.

 

[ShawneeIrish]

In retrospect really wish he had just been dismissed from ND. This is why even though it sucks sometimes for good guys like KVR the school must be strict. When someone like this represets ND we becoms look like OSU, FSU, SEC, etc.

 

[IrishSteelhead]

I truly hope you didn't actually laugh out loud.



Animal Cruelty and Human Violence : The Humane Society of the United States

I think this is a no brainier: people who would physically abuse an animal lack the moral compass/empathy needed to prevent them from doing the same to a person.

 

[IrishSteelhead]

And this picture certainly doesn't tug the old heart strings anymore:

 

[Bishop2b5]

From an outsider's perspective, the reflection on ND because of this is probably not as great as many of you think. If Shembo had been in constant trouble while at ND and you'd kept him around anyway (a la FSU and JW), or if he was one a of long, long list of ND players who went on to be thugs later, then it would be a serious black eye for the Irish. However, I think most outsiders see him as a lowlife who just happened to have played at ND (and ALL programs produce a few such scumbags), not a product of ND.

 

[goldandblue]

I truly hope you didn't actually laugh out loud.

Animal Cruelty and Human Violence : The Humane Society of the United States

If you go back and read my post, I was not responding to you.. I was responding to the dumbass that says he (shembo) should be "put down" for this offense...

 

[GoIrish41]

And if he abused the woman instead, he probably would have received a hefty suspension instead of immediate release. It's sick, really.

This likely has to do with his caliber as a player more than anything. He is no Adrian Peterson after all.

 

[Junkhead]

I'm not a dog lover, but dude obviously has some serious issues. Sucks to have to see ND dragged through the mud for this dumbass again.

 

[phork]

From an outsider's perspective, the reflection on ND because of this is probably not as great as many of you think. If Shembo had been in constant trouble while at ND and you'd kept him around anyway (a la FSU and JW), or if he was one a of long, long list of ND players who went on to be thugs later, then it would be a serious black eye for the Irish. However, I think most outsiders see him as a lowlife who just happened to have played at ND (and ALL programs produce a few such scumbags), not a product of ND.

Nah, people are compiling lists of things that have happened recently and slamming our "Gold Standard".

 

[dublinirish]

don't forget the falcons history with dog killers. they have no choice but to release him

 

[GEORGIA DOMER]

In retrospect really wish he had just been dismissed from ND. This is why even though it sucks sometimes for good guys like KVR the school must be strict. When someone like this represets ND we becoms look like OSU, FSU, SEC, etc.

Minus the recent championships.

 

[Sherm Sticky]

Shameful shameful shameful act. SMDH


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[stlnd01]

I'm going to respectfully disagree with you on some of this. Making your living in a violent, but legal way is probably not the cause of violent behavior in your personal life. There are countless boxers, professional football players, and members of the military who've seen extensive combat and killed frequently, but clearly know where the line is between their job and the rest of their lives. In fact I believe the vast majority fall into that category. I'm inclined to believe the athletes in violent sports who act like assholes and beat their wives, murder their business associates, and kill their pets are more a product of entitlement and never having had boundaries set or having to be responsible for their behavior instead of carrying the violence of their job home.

Maybe it's a combination of violence and entitlement. But it's hard to deny that pro and major college football rewards and glorifies violence on the field. A subset of the football-playing population clearly seems to have trouble with on-field violence and off. Maybe they'd be violent anyway, and football is a positive outlet for their natural behavior. Or maybe it accentuates it by adding a sense of entitlement.

 

[kmoose]

I'm going to respectfully disagree with you on some of this. Making your living in a violent, but legal way is probably not the cause of violent behavior in your personal life. There are countless boxers, professional football players, and members of the military who've seen extensive combat and killed frequently, but clearly know where the line is between their job and the rest of their lives. In fact I believe the vast majority fall into that category. I'm inclined to believe the athletes in violent sports who act like assholes and beat their wives, murder their business associates, and kill their pets are more a product of entitlement and never having had boundaries set or having to be responsible for their behavior instead of carrying the violence of their job home.

No. He has a point. When I was in Avionics "A" School, for the Navy, we had Marines integrated into our classes, because they had Avoinics guys, too. The Marines had a little higher rate of trouble with the law in town. After one group of Marines got arrested for fighting in a bar, my Marine Instructor and I were talking about it. He said something along the lines of, "I don't understand these kids that are coming into the Corps today. They just don't seem to get it." I responded, "Staff Sergeant, What do you expect? These guys are just ought of Boot Camp. The Marine Corps spent the last 16 weeks whipping them into a fever pitch to go out and kill the enemy. Then you turn them loose in town, with the hyper-aggression still turned on, and are surprised when they get into fights?"

Now, understanding the factors that cause the behavior and excusing the person from punishment are two different things.

 

[Bishop2b5]

Nah, people are compiling lists of things that have happened recently and slamming our "Gold Standard".

They are, and it's something that's been going on for awhile... just not for the reasons you think.

 

[phork]

Do tell...

 

[Bishop2b5]

Do tell...

Let's not. Half the people in here would say, "Yeah, we know." The other half would just get pissed off and it would turn into a fight.

 

[IrishLion]

Let's not. Half the people in here would say, "Yeah, we know." The other half would just get pissed off and it would turn into a fight.

Maybe I'm an idiot, but I have no idea what you mean. I'm very curious now.

 

[phgreek]

Care to explain this idea?

...not my post, but I would guess it has to do with ignoring violence issues he had in High School.

You tell me, but do non-athletes get admitted if something like that comes to light about them / their past?

If not lowering standards, you choose the words to describe such a situation.

 

[phgreek]

We'll see what happens here, but it sounds like he caused the dog to die. Pretty sure self-defense is out. Having a hard time figuring out a circumstance where this was not a malicious, cruel act. If that is the case, his NFL days are probably over, and he is looking at jail time...deservedly so.

What he needs is some serious psychiatric evaluation...sounding more like he is a dangerous dude to living things...

 

[Circa]

Anger issues are a very serious problem and when a women has that type of spell on you your mind works evilishly! Social media would have ruined ND had It been around since our beginning.

 

[phork]

Let's not. Half the people in here would say, "Yeah, we know." The other half would just get pissed off and it would turn into a fight.

Then PM me and keep it on the DL.

 

[GoldenDome]

We'll see what happens here, but it sounds like he caused the dog to die. Pretty sure self-defense is out. Having a hard time figuring out a circumstance where this was not a malicious, cruel act. If that is the case, his NFL days are probably over, and he is looking at jail time...deservedly so.

What he needs is some serious psychiatric evaluation...sounding more like he is a dangerous dude to living things...

Apparently he and his lawyers are claiming self defense. He is saying the dog bit him. We'll see how that goes in the court room. I personally don't buy it because every experience I have had with Yorkies is friendly. And even if, there are other ways of handling th situation since obviously his life is not in any danger from a 10 pound dog.

 

[Bishop2b5]

Apparently he and his lawyers are claiming self defense. He is saying the dog bit him. We'll see how that goes in the court room. I personally don't buy it because every experience I have had with Yorkies is friendly. And even if, there are other ways of handling th situation since obviously his life is not in any danger from a 10 pound dog.

No way to know for sure, but I imagine what happened is that he was already irritated with the dog or at having to take care of it, tried to put it back in its cage, and the dog bit him. He exploded and ended up kicking the dog several times in anger and/or threw it against a wall. I doubt if he set out to torture or even hurt the dog... he just lost his cool and snapped. Nothing good about any of this.

 

[RDU Irish]

I have a friend who broke his finger on his dog's head (enormous hound of some sort, it was fine) another who killed his little dust mop when he grabbed the leash as it ran away (in front of his kids too). Are these guys both looking at a "special place in hell"? Or are you looking into their soul and determining they didn't "intend to harm"?

What about the people that insist on having their dog buried with them? Put down their perfectly healthy dog so they can be buried at the same time/place? Imagine the WTF did I sign up for look on the dog's face with that one.

 

[ClausentoTate]

I have a friend who broke his finger on his dog's head (enormous hound of some sort, it was fine) another who killed his little dust mop when he grabbed the leash as it ran away (in front of his kids too). Are these guys both looking at a "special place in hell"? Or are you looking into their soul and determining they didn't "intend to harm"?

What about the people that insist on having their dog buried with them? Put down their perfectly healthy dog so they can be buried at the same time/place? Imagine the WTF did I sign up for look on the dog's face with that one.

 

[PANDFAN]

Prince Shembo's girlfriend says he 'felt second' to the dog | FOX Sports

“He said you were spending too much time with him and I felt second to him,” Williams told Kevin Rowson of WXIA. “If he did bite him, why didn’t he tell me that when he confessed?

 

[Irish#1]

Apparently he and his lawyers are claiming self defense. He is saying the dog bit him. We'll see how that goes in the court room. I personally don't buy it because every experience I have had with Yorkies is friendly. And even if, there are other ways of handling th situation since obviously his life is not in any danger from a 10 pound dog.

Not defending PS or saying the dog did or didn't bite him. While all breeds have their basic traits, they are all different just like people. You can have two of the same breed and one might be shy and the other outgoing. One a biter and one a licker. There's a possibility the dog bit him even if the breed is friendly. If it did bite him, he better have some bite marks to back it up.

 

[Booslum31]

Prince Shembo's girlfriend says he 'felt second' to the dog | FOX Sports

“He said you were spending too much time with him and I felt second to him,” Williams told Kevin Rowson of WXIA. “If he did bite him, why didn’t he tell me that when he confessed?

Good question...and one that he better have the answer to.