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Domina Nostra

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You have the ability, but not the obligation.......

No doubt.

It's interesting to see how people treat money that they didn't earn in any manner--or even inherit as part of a ongoing family legacy--in the exact same manner as money earned.
 

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No doubt.

It's interesting to see how people treat money that they didn't earn in any manner--or even inherit as part of a ongoing family legacy--in the exact same manner as money earned.

Typically that's what we would hope for correct? Treating it as money earned is treating it as something with a high level of value that deserves thought and planning. Treating it as a completely inexhaustible resource and putting no planning into it at all is how you lose it.

I understand that you're saying nearly 800 million dollars is almost impossible for an individual to completely lose through being "wasteful". But if you want the money to BECOME an ongoing family legacy that will last for generations, it would certainly be helpful to plan.
 

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Typically that's what we would hope for correct? Treating it as money earned is treating it as something with a high level of value that deserves thought and planning. Treating it as a completely inexhaustible resource and putting no planning into it at all is how you lose it.

I understand that you're saying nearly 800 million dollars is almost impossible for an individual to completely lose through being "wasteful". But if you want the money to BECOME an ongoing family legacy that will last for generations, it would certainly be helpful to plan.

I am not sure that is what I would hope for. As a Christian, I would worry about what that amount of wealth would do to me and my family. It's not about being wasteful, its about hoarding vs. being a generous steward.

- If you are given $100,000 you might have a unique opportunity to make some wise choices and put your family in a much more favorable long-term position (paying off school and house debt, investing in your business).
- If you are given $10,000,000 you can ensure that your family may be in a real position to pursue higher goods than just earning a living. You might also be able to make a big differnce in the lives of the people around you.
- But if you recieve a $1,000,000,000, you and your family are taken care of hundreds of times over. All of your thought and planning about how to perpetuate that wealth for your own benfit can start to smell of greed, plain and simple. You may need to give A LOT a way.

The Church has always taught that resources are intended for the benefit of all. It also teaches that it is perfectly wise and reasonable to allow those who have proven themsleves most industrious and responsible to handle that wealth disproportionately, for the benefit of all. I agree that it is wise to emulate people like that if you ever come across a lot of money.

When someone works very hard in a responsible manner to generate wealth, the idea is that person has proven that he can be trusted as a stewart of that money, for the benefit of all. While that doesn't mean giving it all away, it certainly doesn't mean sticking hundreds of millions in a bank account as a permanent cushion between your family and reality. The idea is not to ensure that their grandchildren are fabulously wealth (though that may be the case). That is not responsibility, that is greed. While it might be easy to convince myself that the cosmos had blessed me to be extremely comfortable and care-free while so many people around me are not, that is quite a conclusion to reach.

Note I am not talking about what the law should dictate, but how a person should order their own life.

Long story short, not everything that is ethically, morally, or spiritually permissible to do with $1M dollars, is equally valid for $1B.
 
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Typically that's what we would hope for correct? Treating it as money earned is treating it as something with a high level of value that deserves thought and planning. Treating it as a completely inexhaustible resource and putting no planning into it at all is how you lose it.

I understand that you're saying nearly 800 million dollars is almost impossible for an individual to completely lose through being "wasteful". But if you want the money to BECOME an ongoing family legacy that will last for generations, it would certainly be helpful to plan.

I think I would want to make sure my grandchildren were taken care of. After that it's up to them to make sure they provide for future generations...
 

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I think I would want to make sure my grandchildren were taken care of. After that it's up to them to make sure they provide for future generations...

Hell I'm not even sure I'd help out my grandkids that much. Education trusts for everybody though.
 

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Hell I'm not even sure I'd help out my grandkids that much. Education trusts for everybody though.
So what you're saying is 'born in to ' types like JFF aren't good people?

I have a close friend or two I'd take care of before some of my family.
 

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Turned a profit. WHERE'S YOUR MATH GOD NOW, WHISKEYJACK!?!
 

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Just won $4 dollars. Pretty ecstatic. My first inclination is to go to either Wendy's or Burger King and get their new $4 dollar value meals. But the smart side of me says to double down and invest in some high yield mutual funds and maybe cash in in 3-4 years when it doubles and head to chick fi la instead.
 
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Turned a profit. WHERE'S YOUR MATH GOD NOW, WHISKEYJACK!?!

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Wait until you have some. You would gladly take care of them.

I just wouldn't want a situation where they are doing nothing but waiting until they hit 25 years old and the trust starts to pay dividends. Motivation would be difficult to keep up if you knew you were totally set for life.
 

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The irony of most inheritances - you aren't getting shit until you are in your 60s or later and then the chance of parents outliving kids is very real in this day and age. Then those that think mom and dad are loaded are surprised to see nest eggs eaten up by retirement and long term care... then divided by three or four kids to really not add up to a life changing number. Only advice I give to those banking on inheritance, don't. Make your own way.
 

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I just wouldn't want a situation where they are doing nothing but waiting until they hit 25 years old and the trust starts to pay dividends. Motivation would be difficult to keep up if you knew you were totally set for life.

I agree. Put some stipulations in place. Before my father in law passed away, he set up investment accounts with $5K for each of his eight great grandchildren. My wife is on each account. While these accounts won't make or break them, she's decided not to give them to them until they are about 30 and have a life and family established. Less chance of squandering it.
 

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I agree. Put some stipulations in place. Before my father in law passed away, he set up investment accounts with $5K for each of his eight great grandchildren. My wife is on each account. While these accounts won't make or break them, she's decided not to give them to them until they are about 30 and have a life and family established. Less chance of squandering it.

To play devil's advocate, $5,000 may not mean that much to them at age 30 compared to age 20 or 25.

They may squander it, but they may also put it to good use. Maybe they buy some stocks or use it to go on a backpacking trip across Europe. I think traveling to different countries is very important for a young adult.
 

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The irony of most inheritances - you aren't getting shit until you are in your 60s or later and then the chance of parents outliving kids is very real in this day and age. Then those that think mom and dad are loaded are surprised to see nest eggs eaten up by retirement and long term care... then divided by three or four kids to really not add up to a life changing number. Only advice I give to those banking on inheritance, don't. Make your own way.

Or they move to Del Boca Vista for spite and blow your inheritance.
 

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I won 8 whole dollars. Woohoo!! That will pay for my sushi at lunch today.
 

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I just wouldn't want a situation where they are doing nothing but waiting until they hit 25 years old and the trust starts to pay dividends. Motivation would be difficult to keep up if you knew you were totally set for life.

My legal practice is dominated by estate planning, probate/trust administration, and probate/trust controversy, so the following assertion is based on long experience: the wealthier the client, the more f*cked up his kids are. Especially nowadays, most kids aren't "growing up" until well into their 30s (if at all). I usually counsel my clients to leave money to their kids in trust for specific purposes, like post-secondary education, first house, wedding, travel, etc. But there's no more sure way to ruin a kid than to tell him early on that he'll never have to work a day in his life.
 

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damn when I saw you posted here I thought you were gonna tell us you were the winner from tennessee
 
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