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  • Obama

    Votes: 4 1.1%
  • Romney

    Votes: 172 48.9%
  • Other

    Votes: 46 13.1%
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    Votes: 130 36.9%

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Irish#1

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Waters, Pelosi, Feinstein all from Cali. Something in the water?
 

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I’d go with 75, but Term limits would take care of the age limit.
I'm fine with that. My idea was that Senators serve 6 years so if no one runs after 70 then they're out of office by 76 at the latest. If they run again at 75 they're over 80 by the time they retire. You're not wrong on the term limits though, that would probably solve the problem. While there are many candidates that are still sharp in their 80s and can serve, there are some that certainly can't and shouldn't..and unfortunately nobody says anything.
 

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Why age limits? Some of these youngsters are of sound mind and dumber than some of these 70+ politicians.

I say you have to be 65 to be in any office. This would make people work a normal job before becoming a politician with actual life experience. Weed out the ones that would make lousy employees and workers and allows people to build actual resumes with actual work completed. Work changes people. After a long career and life it gives perspective these young politician crusaders don’t have.
 

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Why age limits? Some of these youngsters are of sound mind and dumber than some of these 70+ politicians.

I say you have to be 65 to be in any office. This would make people work a normal job before becoming a politician with actual life experience. Weed out the ones that would make lousy employees and workers and allows people to build actual resumes with actual work completed. Work changes people. After a long career and life it gives perspective these young politician crusaders don’t have.
I'm not an ageist, this is more about mental health than anything. There have been some candidates in the past that probably should not have been holding public office, but they did because no one said anything since they still drew money and votes. There are certainly candidates that are capable of going longer, but really do we need 75 and 80+ year olds running the country? They're in their twilight years, they should be enjoying retirement and their families. Biden first started serving in the Senate 50 years ago. There's many of us here that weren't even born yet. Joe clearly isn't as sharp today as he was as Obama's VP. He gets lost after leaving the podium, he's heavily reliant on teleprompters and note cards. He forgets he's eulogizing a dead person and asks if they're in the audience. This is supposed to be the most powerful man in the world, he may be a security risk. Joe will be 80 years old in 2 days. To prevent this sort of thing happening again that's why I suggested a cut off at 70 to try and minimize it.
 

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I'm not an ageist, this is more about mental health than anything. There have been some candidates in the past that probably should not have been holding public office, but they did because no one said anything since they still drew money and votes. There are certainly candidates that are capable of going longer, but really do we need 75 and 80+ year olds running the country? They're in their twilight years, they should be enjoying retirement and their families. Biden first started serving in the Senate 50 years ago. There's many of us here that weren't even born yet. Joe clearly isn't as sharp today as he was as Obama's VP. He gets lost after leaving the podium, he's heavily reliant on teleprompters and note cards. He forgets he's eulogizing a dead person and asks if they're in the audience. This is supposed to be the most powerful man in the world, he may be a security risk. Joe will be 80 years old in 2 days. To prevent this sort of thing happening again that's why I suggested a cut off at 70 to try and minimize it.
I still think politicians need work and life experience first. Career politicians shouldn’t ever be allowed. Maybe somewhere in the middle. Only 55-65 year olds. 🤷‍♂️
 

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I still think politicians need work and life experience first. Career politicians shouldn’t ever be allowed. Maybe somewhere in the middle. Only 55-65 year olds. 🤷‍♂️
How about once you become a man?

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Everyone wishing Trump would just “go away” realize that there were multiple opportunities to put him out to pasture right?

Too bad 99% of the GOP decided that was too risky politically. It’s interesting seeing them all poopoo Trump now and it’s going to be hilarious during the GOP primary when he throws on tape of the same people who will try to criticize him during the primary cupping his balls and falling all over themselves two years earlier saying what a great president he was.

It’s also interesting that one of the things that likely makes running again very attractive to Trump is the complete lack of campaign finance regulations in terms of donor limits and dark money. Sweet irony there.
 

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Average age is 64. I thought it would be worse. I think the outliers make it seem a lot worse than it is. We expect senators to be pretty accomplished people. Pretty tough to make a compelling case to the voters until you are on the tail end of your professional career. The House is where the young folks belong.
Interesting. That’s about where I would put the mandatory retirement age.

The problem with allowing old timers to continue on indefinitely is that the way campaign financing and fundraising work currently allows incumbents to have a huge head start.

Anyhow, terms limits as someone else stated above would seem to solve that issue.
 

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Everyone wishing Trump would just “go away” realize that there were multiple opportunities to put him out to pasture right?

Too bad 99% of the GOP decided that was too risky politically. It’s interesting seeing them all poopoo Trump now and it’s going to be hilarious during the GOP primary when he throws on tape of the same people who will try to criticize him during the primary cupping his balls and falling all over themselves two years earlier saying what a great president he was.

It’s also interesting that one of the things that likely makes running again very attractive to Trump is the complete lack of campaign finance regulations in terms of donor limits and dark money. Sweet irony there.
Reality is Trump lost because of voters voting against trump and no for a decaying old man. Trump running again will be the same. Winning an election is about firing up your base, Trump did that but also fired up the other base to vote against him. Trump wouldn’t win against Putin at this point. I can’t stand Trump at all but if he ran and won the GOP ticket he would be means to an end. People don’t vote for politicians they vote for party. There are people that “think” Biden is mentally capable still. They are just “boot licking” because of their party affiliations or just have very low standards for the presidency.

Dark money? Isn’t that why most politicians and are running? Compare salaries to net worth. From BLM to Biden himself. Trump is no different than many.
Boebert failed her GED…multiple times.
I’ve learned to never poke at education. I can name a handful of millionaire friends that just have a GED and could name people like JayZ. My own sister had two kids before 18 and got her GED now owns and operate an ambulance business.
 

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Boebert failed her GED…multiple times.
There's a lot of people that thought Trump would never be President either, including the man he replaced. They're not all geniuses by any stretch, but sometimes you just need to understand how to dupe voters.
 

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McCarthy Vows to Remove Omar, Swalwell, Schiff From Committees​


'You have Adam Schiff, who lied to the American public time and again – we will not allow him to be on the Intel Committee either... '
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(Headline USA) House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy, R-Calif., said he will remove Democrat Reps. Eric Swalwell, D-Calif., Ilhan Omar, D-Minn., and Adam Schiff, D-Calif., from their committees when Republicans take control of Congress in January.
During an interview with Fox Business on Sunday, McCarthy, who is vying to become the next House Speaker, said he would keep his promise to block Swalwell and Schiff from the House Intelligence Committee and Omar from the House Foreign Affairs Committee.
Swalwell’s connection with a Chinese spy, Schiff’s promotion of the debunked Russia collusion hoax, and Omar’s anti-Semitic comments disqualify them from serving on their respective committees, McCarthy argued.
“One thing I said from the very beginning, Eric Swalwell cannot get a security clearance in the public sector,” he said. “Why would we ever give him a security clearance and the secrets to America? So, I will not allow him to be on Intel.”

Regarding Schiff and Omar, McCarthy said: “You have Adam Schiff, who lied to the American public time and again – we will not allow him to be on the Intel Committee either,” he continued. “Look at Congresswoman Omar, her antisemitic comments that have gone forward. We’re not going to allow her to be on Foreign Affairs.”
McCarthy said Republicans will “stand up to what’s happening, not just in the halls in Congress, but what’s happening to our higher education institutions, the antisemitism that’s going on these campuses and others.”
“We will investigate that as well and stop this to make sure that America does have the freedoms that we said we would keep, and we will stand up to it as we move forward,” he added.
McCarthy has been nominated for the speakership by several House Republicans. But to win the position, he will need 218 votes. Republicans are projected to hold anywhere from 220 to 224 seats, which means he will need to win over his entire caucus.

Already, several more conservative Republican representatives have vowed to challenge McCarthy’s bid, one of them being Rep. Andy Biggs, R-Ariz.
“We have a new paradigm here, and I think the country wants a different direction from the House of Representatives,” he said last week.
 

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Scrolling down, it's amazing how much more equipment and manpower Russia has put into this war, yet still not faring well.
 

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Democracy works, authoritarianism eventually doesn't.


Rising food and energy prices tend to cultivate civil unrest. Europe's "resilience" will be tested as long as they hold on to unicorn farts to power their economy (while paying top dollar to import real energy).
 

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Democracy works, authoritarianism eventually doesn't.


I'm not sure any non-elite US citizen would argue that authoritarianism is good. Is this supposed to be a slam on the right? Despite what the MSM says, conservatives are firmly opposed to authoritarianism - I'm surprised that this outright lie has even gained traction amongst the general public.

But wow, that tweet has some selective reasoning there.

Russia's failure in the war has nothing to do with authoritarianism/liberalism
Tweet ignores all the massive protests that Canada and US had over the past 2 years
Both sides have election deniers; just depends on which side wins
Many other economic indicators than simply unemployment; several in the US are way down
If China's economy is sputtering, I wonder what adjective we can use for the US economy
 

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Alyssa Milano, in her effort to be the most woke celebrity alive, recently got rid of her Tesla to defy "hate and white supremacy" being sponsored by Elon Musk who allowed some previously suspended Twitter accounts back. In her well thought out effort to protest Musk allowing Twitter accounts that Milano doesn't like, she bought a Volkswagen instead. You know, Volkswagen, that company started by Hitler and the Nazis... the actual Nazis, not the ones Milano sees everywhere someone doesn't agree with her. I hate to call anyone an empty-headed, shallow twit, but...
 

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I'm not sure any non-elite US citizen would argue that authoritarianism is good. Is this supposed to be a slam on the right? Despite what the MSM says, conservatives are firmly opposed to authoritarianism - I'm surprised that this outright lie has even gained traction amongst the general public.

But wow, that tweet has some selective reasoning there.

Russia's failure in the war has nothing to do with authoritarianism/liberalism
Tweet ignores all the massive protests that Canada and US had over the past 2 years
Both sides have election deniers; just depends on which side wins
Many other economic indicators than simply unemployment; several in the US are way down
If China's economy is sputtering, I wonder what adjective we can use for the US economy
Who was the last authoritarian to win a major military conflict? I honestly can't think of any since WWI. Part of the reason is that people don't want to fight for a despot and the way the military is organized is generally inefficient or corrupt.

Good point tho on the protests in 2020 that happened here.

On economics -- the fed is literally trying to torpedo the economy because too many poor people got money which (along with corporate profiteering or greed or whatever you want to call it) is driving inflation. And despite all of that, the economy is still chugging along with low unemployment. China's economy right now is categorically worse than the US economy in many important indicators, and the strength of the dollar relative to the Euro also shows how the United States is doing relative to other western countries.
 
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