Politics

[ClausentoTate]

SIAP

leftists/obstructionists.....this is your ppls

Vanity Fair Editor Kurt Eichenwald Humiliated After Accidentally Revealing Anime Porn on His Browser - Breitbart

We should totally judge people exclusively on their porn preferences. Also, what an idiot haha

 

[BGIF]

We should totally judge people exclusively on their porn preferences. Also, what an idiot haha

Who mentioned judging?

Exclusively?

Much less on their porn preferences?

Besides you?



Eichenwald himself did tweet:

Kurt Eichenwald ✔ @kurteichenwald
Sigh. Ok, I'm a dumbass ...

Was that the judging you spoke of?



Can you provide a quote?

 

[NorthDakota]

We should totally judge people exclusively on their porn preferences. Also, what an idiot haha

Cartoon porn lmao what a creep.

 

[ClausentoTate]

Who mentioned judging?

Can you provide a quote?

"leftists/obstructionists.....this is your ppls"

I took this as an insult based on the perceived context of the "leftists/obstructionists", implying judgment. Sorry if I misconstrued!

Edit: Dude's a super creep.

 

[BGIF]

"leftists/obstructionists.....this is your ppls"

I took this as an insult based on the perceived context of the "leftists/obstructionists", implying judgment. Sorry if I misconstrued!

Edit: Dude's a super creep.

Vanity Fair has always been leftist.

 

[ClausentoTate]

Oh, definitely. I've been unusually defensive lately, my apologies.

 

[NDinL.A.]

SIAP

leftists/obstructionists.....this is your ppls

Vanity Fair Editor Kurt Eichenwald Humiliated After Accidentally Revealing Anime Porn on His Browser - Breitbart

The right spent 6 straight years openly obstructing anything and everything Obama tried to do, and yet Trump still has his people believing that the left are the only obstructionists in Washington lol. (And the people who actually believe him are too dumb to realize that the Republicans are doing much of the blocking themselves.)

And btw, the right has PLENTY of sick mofos on their side. We could go back and forth on this all day, trading stories of pervs and sexual deviants...starting with the POTUS himself lol. There's a reason you don't hear a peep of being the "Party of Family Values!!!" anymore from Republicans.

 

[NDinL.A.]

...make it a ballot initiative and watch what happens. Yes businesses and organizations can threaten to "hold people accountable"...but when they are at the ballot box...much like gay marriage...it won't go the left's way, and judges will decide...and now that won't go the left's way either.
...

Gay marriage didn't go the left's way? Did you miss the Supreme Court ruling a few years back, or are you saying the right was suddenly advocating for gay marriage? If that's the case, Scalia and Thomas et al didn't get the memo lol.

 

[Cackalacky]

You can tell a lot about people by their porn search queries.

 

[BGIF]

You can tell a lot about people by their porn search queries.

Let me see if I grasp this correctly:

Eichenwald has his server on a shelf in a bathroom in Kentucky.

VA and OH are born again ... or know how to logon incognito.

New England is the land of diversity not California.

SD has a GoPro fetish.

The Heart of Dixie truly likes POCs (or more POCs like porn there than non POCs.)

PSU doesn't logon like the rest of the state of PA.

No Voter I.D. is required to participate anywhere.

Hispanics are under registered here too.

NV knows the website of the next DNC Chair.

 

[Ndaccountant]

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...ip-requirement-for-mines-to-30?srnd=157392532

Will be interesting to see where this goes, especially as South Africa is in recession. So many interesting facets to discuss.

 

[Irishize]

Something that seems impossible to believe but is depressingly true.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Drug overdose deaths soar faster than ever & are now leading cause of death for Americans under 50. Think about that <a href="https://t.co/n9KQLGJsWw">https://t.co/n9KQLGJsWw</a> <a href="https://t.co/Yoztw7oLxc">pic.twitter.com/Yoztw7oLxc</a></p>— Mike Rosenberg (@ByRosenberg) <a href="https://twitter.com/ByRosenberg/status/872118209100390401">June 6, 2017</a></blockquote>
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So we shouldn't ban AIDS, cars or guns....we should ban drugs (sorry, don't know the sarcasm font on this board)

 

[phgreek]

Gay marriage didn't go the left's way? Did you miss the Supreme Court ruling a few years back, or are you saying the right was suddenly advocating for gay marriage? If that's the case, Scalia and Thomas et al didn't get the memo lol.

No...what I was saying seems confusing if you just look at the post you responded to. I'm saying when gay marriage was a ballot initiative, it lost. The supreme court forced the issue the left's way.

NOW, if a ballot initiative goes the right's way on the next left bomb...whatever it is, don't count on the supreme court defying the ballot initiative.

Also, mixed in there is a nod to the fact that the media was SO, SO, SO sure they had California figured out, and thought the ballot initiative was an easy win for gay marriage...turns out not so much. So yea I'm skeptical of any polling related to any such issue because a) people say what they think the in-person pollster wants to hear, b) the methods of polling have moved into different territory, and I don't think the predictive stats have caught up. As such if people think the majority of the country would vote in the affirmative for the bathroom free-for-all...I'm gonna say...mmmmm I don't think so. I'm also gonna say we are pretty close to a scotus that isn't going to force that issue, if we aren't already there.

 

[phgreek]

SWEET schadenfreude! Left comes unglitterglued after CNN admits Liberals aren’t that tolerant [video] – twitchy.com

well...and...



https://www.youtube.com/embed/hLpE1Pa8vvI?autoplay=1&autohide=1&showinfo=0&iv_load_policy=3&rel=0

 

[Irish YJ]

well...and...



https://www.youtube.com/embed/hLpE1Pa8vvI?autoplay=1&autohide=1&showinfo=0&iv_load_policy=3&rel=0

LLLLLL!!!!!

Pure gold. Reps.

 

[Legacy]

Op-Ed Who's to blame for political violence? (LA Times)

But even at a time when American political figures call each other fascists and traitors and rant about resisting tyranny, there remains a world of difference between our political factions and Islamic State. If you hear someone shoot their mouth off, just remember it’s still only their mouth.

The more we blame speech for violence, the more likely we are to use violence to stop speech. Blurring the lines between bullets and tweets eventually will leave us with more bullets. Nobody forced Scalise’s shooter to pick up a gun over politics; he did that himself. It cheapens the moral consequences of that decision to credit angry words with an assist.

Make ‘Civil Society’ Civil Again
(National Review)

A simple proposal: Could we try to start in a different place in our all-consuming national debate? Is it possible to seek, with as much passion as we build our arguments, what are our deepest and most cherished goals? Is it possible to seek, with as much passion as we build our arguments, what are our deepest and most cherished goals? The effort to find our truest goals — peace, security, health, etc. — and put them into words, so we can hear what both our friends and adversaries think about them, can help us see clearly what we too often forget, that our disagreements are most often about the paths and strategies to such goals and less about the character of the person with whom we disagree. Increasing clarity of argument, even discovery of deeper truth, could replace character assassination. Passionate debate need not obscure the important ends we hold in common.

GOP Senate candidates sound off on immigration, health care, gays in Huntsville forum
(al.com)

But perhaps nothing brought the GOP rivals together quite like a question on what was phrased as the "inflammatory rhetoric" that led to last week's shooting at the Republican congressional baseball practice.

The unifying answer: It's the Democrats.

 

[MJ12666]

Police: Death of Muslim girl not believed to be a hate crime - CNN.com

Looks like the Muslim girl who was killed in Virginia was killed by an illegal immigrant. The father still is calling it a hate crime. Not sure how the press will handle this, but I seriously doubt they will make any reference to the perpetrator being an illegal immigrant. Still feel bad for the girl and family.

 

[connor_in]

Not sure where to put this, so here goes...

What to do with a broken Illinois: Dissolve the Land of Lincoln - Chicago Tribune

 

[connor_in]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">BREAKING: Court Dismisses Bogus Charges Against David Daleiden for Exposing Planned Parenthood <a href="https://t.co/C9M3PQ1rWQ">https://t.co/C9M3PQ1rWQ</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/tcot?src=hash">#tcot</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/prolife?src=hash">#prolife</a> <a href="https://t.co/eiYLJsZQzq">pic.twitter.com/eiYLJsZQzq</a></p>— LifeNews.com (@LifeNewsHQ) <a href="https://twitter.com/LifeNewsHQ/status/877647412596264963">June 21, 2017</a></blockquote>
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From article:

The San Francisco Superior Court on Wednesday dismissed 14 of 15 criminal counts but the pair are still charged with one count of conspiracy to invade privacy. However the court dismissed the charges with leave to amend — meaning Becerra could re-file the charges with additional supposed evidence against the pair.

…

San Francisco County Superior Court Judge Christopher Hite gave the state attorney general’s office until mid-July to file a revised complaint.

 

[Bishop2b5]

I thought this was really special. At least the Nebraska party chairwoman removed this guy from his position.

Caught on tape: Dem official says he's 'glad' Scalise got shot

 

[Whiskeyjack]

The Week's Matthew Walther just published an article titled "Pregnancy is not a disease."

About once a week, I have to dump a half gallon of cold water on my face and remind myself that in this country pregnancy is considered a disease.

Only seven years ago, this grotesque perspective was maintained by health insurance companies, who were free to deny coverage to expectant mothers or "women likely to become pregnant" (whatever that means) with impunity the way they would a heavy smoker. It's nice to know that the Republican paste-up job revision of the Affordable Care Act will probably not set us back in this regard.

Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell's unwillingness to participate in the legal fiction that what we call "health insurance" is, like flood or auto insurance, some kind of scheme that guarantees compensation in the event of a catastrophe rather than the only way millions of people are able to receive care, is most welcome. It even looks possible that women who would not have been eligible for treatment under Medicaid before the Obama-era expansion will be able to hold on to their coverage. Yay.

But the necessary — I will not stoop to calling a step so blinkeringly obvious and morally necessary "humane" — revision of the law governing the provision of medical insurance has not changed the view of Americans on the right and the left, who see the miracle of birth as at best an unfortunate if not quite wholly unjustifiable expense and at worst an easily preventable illness.

You see this on the right whenever the subject of "single mothers" (which is nearly always code for "unmarried women of color living in urban areas") is raised. If only, these bowtied pundits argue, poor women could be prevented from reproducing somehow, we might spare ourselves the considerable cost of having to provide for their ill-fated offspring, who will only be more of a drag on the taxpayer's purse as their uniformly miserable lives continue. This was the argument of the loathsome authors of Freakonomics in their chapter about how Roe v. Wade lowered crime rates. It is strange to think that a book that makes David Duke look woke is not only a bestseller but a textbook for basic economics courses in high schools and colleges throughout this country, but there we are.

The left, despite its support for a generous welfare state, is even worse. For the emotional teenagers of the Democratic Socialists of America, abortion is a human right, comparable to, well, the right to live with access to food, water, housing, and medical care. Pregnancy, meanwhile, is a burden ostensibly imposed on women by patriarchy and, ultimately, capital, something our would-be socialists maintain despite the fact that corporations for two decades have wanted nothing more than a chemically infertile female workforce willing to work for low wages and blithely uninterested in maternity leave.

But, predictably, the most wicked voices chiming in on this question are those of the illusionless, non-ideological commonsense data-driven center. To the end of my days I will never forget it: one of the most loathsome comments made by a mainstream opinion columnist in my lifetime. "Attn: Chris Christie," The New York Times' Nick Kristof wrote casually on Twitter, as if it were the least controversial thing in the world. "One Planned Parenthood IUD costs $500. One Medicaid childbirth costs $14,000. You're not saving government money." Well then. Of course you're right, Nick, that if randy poors could just embrace the iron discipline of the pill or agree to have a device shoved between their unclosable legs we wouldn't have any more Medicaid births — are those different in some way from regular PPO BlueCross-type births, by the way?

Even the Congressional Budget Office goes in for this sort of nonsense. The first and last time I ever read a CBO report was a few months ago when I saw one breathlessly written up in The Washington Post under the headline: "CBO: Defunding Planned Parenthood will lead to thousands more births." Yes, when babies are not killed, they generally do live if they have access to medical care in the 21st-century developed world. Surely, I thought, these lame wonks can't be as bad as their interpreters. But they are. "To the extent that there would be reductions in access to care under the legislation, they would affect services that help women avert pregnancies."

Are pregnancies something one "averts," a kind of sinister aberration like a home invasion or a car accident? Isn't pregnancy the end toward which the sexual act is oriented, and isn't this a fact of nature as obvious as gravity? Is the phrase "additional births stemming from … reduced access" meant to make it sound as if poor people are not people but some kind of weed or fungus that needs to be kept from spreading across the clean lawns of America with regular applications of the right sort of sprays?

Every birth is a miracle. Every child is made beautifully in the image of God. It's as simple as that.

 

[Legacy]

Retail stands to lose $70 billion over 10 years if food stamp benefits are slashed, and here's who gets hit the most (CNBC)

- $191 billion in cuts to the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program have been proposed.
- The cuts to the food stamp program would occur between 2018 and 2028.
- AlixPartners estimates retail collectively stand to lose $70.7 billion over the decade the proposed cuts would take place.

Trump budget proposal has many US farmers reeling (CNBC)

- The White House has proposed cutting $38 billion in subsidies to farmers.
- Crop insurance alone faces a $28 billion cut in the Trump proposal.
- Commodity prices have plunged since 2014, hitting farmers' bottom lines.

Trump is threatening to start a global food fight (Wash Post)

The Trump administration is preparing to release, perhaps within days, what could be its biggest step on trade yet — the results of an investigation that could impose limitations on imported steel and aluminum on the grounds of protecting U.S. national security.

But that prospect is sparking concern among some U.S. industry leaders, who argue that other countries may turn to the same explanation to bar American products from their markets.

Agricultural products, one of America’s biggest exports, could be particularly vulnerable. European officials have told U.S. officials and business groups that they may respond to restrictions on steel and aluminum with their own tariffs, and that U.S. agriculture could be a target, according to people familiar with the exchange.

In its public comments about the administration's investigation, U.S. Wheat Associates, an export promotion group for the wheat industry, said it was “extremely concerned about the potential ramifications of import protections based on national security arguments,” adding “the results could be devastating.”

 

[dshans]

This underscores a point I've made for many. Look into just which Departments are responsible for programs such as Food Stamps and WIC.

Many programs are an effort to stabilize many markets. In spite of perceptions among many that they are a waste of tax dollars and do little more than enable a "class" of "lazy ass" freeloaders, they do serve a variety of useful purposes.

Kimberly-Clark doesn't give a shit whether their toilet paper was purchased with cold, hard cash, or through the help of a federally subsidized program. They just care about the revenue that their "tissue" keeps rolling in.

As to employment: how many realize that, from an economic standpoint, true full employment would be a disaster. It would wreck havoc with the Management – Labor conundrum. What is it, 3 to 5% unemployment is considered "full" employment?

Whether you ascribe to Supply Side or Demand Side theories, or Keynesian, Galbraith, or Engels/Marx approaches, there are many sides to this ever shifting story.

 

[Legacy]

2017’s Most & Least Federally Dependent States(WalletHub)

Most Federally Dependent States
Rank
(1 = Most Dependent)
State
Total Score/‘State Residents’ Dependency’ Rank/‘State Government’s Dependency’ Rank
1 Kentucky 76.16 6 5
2 Mississippi 75.59 7 1
3 New Mexico 73.88 3 17
4 Alabama 72.45 4 14
5 West Virginia 68.97 5 15
6 South Carolina 68.17 2 31
7 Montana 65.91 14 4
8 Tennessee 61.76 20 3
9 Maine 61.02 13 9
10 Indiana 59.18 7 23
11 Arizona 59.08 15 11
12 Louisiana 55.39 40 2
13 South Dakota 53.57 24 7
14 Missouri 52.66 31 6
15 Oregon 51.51 23 10
16 Georgia 49.81 34 8
17 Idaho 49.64 19 19
18 Vermont 49.56 18 20
19 Wyoming 48.80 26 12
20 Maryland 48.18 11 32
21 Oklahoma 47.78 21 18
22 Pennsylvania 46.15 17 30
23 Alaska 45.81 10 40
24 Rhode Island 45.05 36 16
25 Florida 43.84 27 22

Of the top twenty-five federally-dependent states, six are blue states.

26 Ohio 42.25 45 13
27 Arkansas 42.12 38 21
28 North Carolina 41.63 32 25
29 Hawaii 41.63 9 46
30 Iowa 41.38 33 26
31 Wisconsin 41.09 16 38
32 North Dakota 40.46 1 50
33 Michigan 40.43 35 27
34 New York 37.65 44 24
35 Texas 36.81 42 28
36 Washington 35.32 30 33
37 Colorado 35.20 29 34
38 Virginia 34.43 12 49
39 Nebraska 33.78 47 29
40 Utah 33.28 28 35
41 New Hampshire 31.11 37 36
42 Connecticut 27.80 22 48
43 Massachusetts 27.36 46 37
44 Nevada 26.94 25 47
45 Kansas 25.39 39 45
46 California 25.36 41 43
47 Illinois 23.96 48 41
48 New Jersey 23.84 49 39
49 Minnesota 23.09 43 44
50 Delaware 21.32 50 42

Of the bottom ten least federally-dependent states, nine are blue states.

 

[phgreek]

2017’s Most & Least Federally Dependent States(WalletHub)



Of the bottom ten least federally-dependent states, nine are blue states.

Which is why I live in Utah baby...balanced budget, conservative leadership, family/faith friendly, 2nd amendment friendly, schools are ok if you are willing to fill in the holes some, economy is good, willing to take the fight to DC when it is needed.

 

[Legacy]

Two other ways of evaluating federal dependancy, also with red states dominating the top half. Eleven states send more tax dollatrs to Washington than they receive. Eight of those are blue states.

Utah as described by phgreek

 

[dshans]

Which is why I lived in Minnesota baby...balanced budget, progressive leadership, family/faith friendly, 2nd amendment friendly, great schools, economy is booming, willing to take the fight to DC when it is needed.

Punched it up a bit ...

 

[Irish YJ]

It's good to understand what goes into the data. There are a ton of charts out there. The above link doesn't do a great job describing what's included in Federal spending. For instance, government contracts are included in most of what I've seen. Some of the write ups I've seen, describe each state.

For instance, a lot of the border states (especially southern borders) get a shit ton of federal money from homeland security and immigration. Others like Florida, which is ranked number one by CNBC's ranking (attached link and below exert) are described as follows.

Federal spending per capita: $30,318
Total federal spending: $577.80 billion
Number of residents: 19.1 million

The state of Florida, the second battleground state on the list, was the recipient of the most federal funds both in total and on a per capita basis. It’s similar to second-place Louisiana in that one of the 10 prime awards it received went to the Health and Human Services, and the rest to Homeland Security.

Other than the Harris Corp., a telecommunications company, the top prime awards contractors were aerospace and defense companies. These include Lockheed Martin, Raytheon, General Dynamics and Northrop Grumman.

http://www.cnbc.com/2012/09/28/States-With-the-Most-Federal-Funding.html?slide=2

I'll look a little closer at the different articles later, but I'd caution anyone from using the figures to tag a state as a welfare state, or paint a state in a bad light. It could just mean there's a ton of specific industry, or it happens to be a border state and requires homeland's beefed up presence.

Florida does spend a good amount on welfare, but they are in the same bucket (28-36 percent) as California, Maine, Min, TN, RI, LA, and good old Indiana.

Federal spending covers a ton of things. If trying to compare Red and Blue states, best to break down the Fed spending to tell a clear story.

I'd also add that some of the least dependent according to the link (IL, NJ, etc), are fiscal train wrecks.

 

[Buster Bluth]

Federal spending covers a ton of things. If trying to compare Red and Blue states, best to break down the Fed spending to tell a clear story.

Much like increases/decreases in discretionary spending usually don't money the needle in federal spending, I'll bet you a dollar the reason "red states" get more than they put it in is the higher federal spending for the millions more people who live in poverty and are on medicaid/welfare.

I'd also add that some of the least dependent according to the link (IL, NJ, etc), are fiscal train wrecks.

Fiscal train wrecks with state dollars. Illinois absurd pension positions do not involve federal money, no?

 

[NorthDakota]

Damn ND looks great on that map. The only poors are concentrated on the reservations.

Wyoming must be a lit place as well.