Politics

[Irish YJ]

Much like increases/decreases in discretionary spending usually don't money the needle in federal spending, I'll bet you a dollar the reason "red states" get more than they put it in is the higher federal spending for the millions more people who live in poverty and are on medicaid/welfare.

Fiscal train wrecks with state dollars. Illinois absurd pension positions do not involve federal money, no?

To your point about red states, see my comment on welfare spending. CA, NY, FL, MN, LA, ME, TN, RI, IN are all the big welfare spenders. Mix of both red and blue however of the big spenders, CA, NY, MN, ME, RI are blue, while FL, LA, TN, and IN are red. Obviously CA, NY, and FL are three of the four most populated states.

IL is a fiscal train wreak period. It's not just about the pensions. Certainly pensions are the big hit, and what everyone talks about, but pure and simple poor management is to blame. They have gotten in trouble as well spending federal funds in the wrong place. Bottom line, IL is a wreck regardless. You could also point out corruption. IL always ranks in the tope 5.

 

[Buster Bluth]

To your point about red states, see my comment on welfare spending. CA, NY, FL, MN, LA, ME, TN, RI, IN are all the big welfare spenders. Mix of both red and blue however of the big spenders, CA, NY, MN, ME, RI are blue, while FL, LA, TN, and IN are red. Obviously CA, NY, and FL are three of the four most populated states.

The difference is that there is a tax base in blue states to support it, thus the question of which states are moochers or not.

Personally I think the whole discussion is overly simplistic and dumb.

 

[IrishLax]

Not sure where to post this but leaving D.C. a few minutes ago there was a massive anti-terrorism protest outside of the Saudi embassy. I looked closer and it was "Muslims against Terrorism"... and their signs were very specific about Wahhabism, etc. Wonder what group organized it.

 

[Irish YJ]

The difference is that there is a tax base in blue states to support it, thus the question of which states are moochers or not.

Personally I think the whole discussion is overly simplistic and dumb.

Meh, TN is pretty close per capita (fed rev collected), and IN and FL not to far from CA either. Very much in the middle.

 

[phgreek]

Punched it up a bit ...

...the fight part quite literally...was Ventura an "off the top rope" kinda guy??? I don't recall.

Teasing...touche'...Colder there, but, would be a good place to live.

 

[ACamp1900]

Personally I think the whole discussion is overly simplistic and dumb.

This. It doesn't really require more than this.

Not sure where to post this but leaving D.C. a few minutes ago there was a massive anti-terrorism protest outside of the Saudi embassy. I looked closer and it was "Muslims against Terrorism"... and their signs were very specific about Wahhabism, etc. Wonder what group organized it.

I wonder if it gets any traction...

 

[no.1IrishFan]

Damn ND looks great on that map. The only poors are concentrated on the reservations.

Wyoming must be a lit place as well.

Nobody gives a shit about North Dakota. You need to deal with it.

 

[Irish YJ]

This. It doesn't really require more than this....

Which is why I cautioned a few posts back.
The pic painted in original post on the topic suggested red states are ........

 

[wizards8507]

Connecticut: No Poors Allowed

 

[IrishLax]

Your Illinois income tax hike? Right now. Reforms? Maybe later — maybe. - Chicago Tribune

 

[NorthDakota]

Nobody gives a shit about North Dakota. You need to deal with it.

Does Arizona contribute anything to the world other than electoral votes? Asking for a friend.

Edit: copper. You guys give us copper. Thank you.

 

[Rack Em]

Your Illinois income tax hike? Right now. Reforms? Maybe later — maybe. - Chicago Tribune

The writing was on the wall years ago. Chicago is currently an unsustainable city and is sucking wealth from its citizens and from IL. That's why I moved out as soon as I finished law school. I have no interest in propping up a bullshit, lazy government with my hard earned money.

 

[zelezo vlk]

The writing was on the wall years ago. Chicago is currently an unsustainable city and is sucking wealth from its citizens and from IL. That's why I moved out as soon as I finished law school. I have no interest in propping up a bullshit, lazy government with my hard earned money.

Yup. The entire state is such a dumpster fire and has been for years. I knew for years I'd need to leave

 

[woolybug25]

Financial disaster aside, Chicago is a wonderful city. I know it's en vogue to dog on it. But me and the ol lady spend time there regularly and it's one of the finest cities in the country, imo.

 

[zelezo vlk]

Financial disaster aside, Chicago is a wonderful city. I know it's en vogue to dog on it. But me and the ol lady spend time there regularly and it's one of the finest cities in the country, imo.

You won't hear otherwise from me. I bet you spent every meal eating deep dish

 

[woolybug25]

You won't hear otherwise from me. I bet you spent every meal eating deep dish

If I was a poor I would, but alas... I am not a poor.

 

[ACamp1900]

I bet you can fit a 8 dollar shitty chipotle burrito in a deep dish.....

 

[wizards8507]

...finest cities in the country, imo.

That's like saying "one of the finest turds in the toilet bowl."

Cities are gross. Cities are where human beings go to live like bees. City parks are sad places for people who don't have any trees of their own. Don't be a poor. Own your own trees.

8.4 Million New Yorkers Suddenly Realize New York City A Horrible Place To Live - The Onion - America's Finest News Source

 

[zelezo vlk]

If I was a poor I would, but alas... I am not a poor.

Do it. Embrace your inner poor

I bet you can fit a 8 dollar shitty chipotle burrito in a deep dish.....

Guaranteed. Btw, I had a burrito bowl from them last week. Still as bland as my previous impression

 

[ACamp1900]

Cities generally suck but there are a few cities I enjoy... San Diego, El Paso, Austin, parts of LA and Phoenix are nice too if you know where to go.

 

[wizards8507]

Btw, I had a burrito bowl from them last week. Still as bland as my previous impression

Did you get the salsas? You have to get all the salsas. And use the smoked Tabasco.

 

[NorthDakota]

That's like saying "one of the finest turds in the toilet bowl."

Cities are gross. Cities are where human beings go to live like bees. City parks are sad places for people who don't have any trees of their own. Don't be a poor. Own your own trees.

8.4 Million New Yorkers Suddenly Realize New York City A Horrible Place To Live - The Onion - America's Finest News Source

I could definitely live in New York for a few years tops. How peoole do it long term though is beyond me. Then again, I've only been to Manhattan.

 

[zelezo vlk]

Cities generally suck but there are a few cities I enjoy... San Diego, El Paso, Austin, parts of LA and Phoenix are nice too if you know where to go.

Not my place, I'll met y'all at a brewery instead. Phoenix: Whiskey/pkt's place to taste all their good stuff.

Did you get the salsas? You have to get all the salsas. And use the smoked Tabasco.

I got the mild tomatillo and it was just meh. I didn't know you could get multiple salsas, but honestly I don't want 3 or 4 salsas, just 1. Make it flavorful. The barbacoa was kinda weak too. Not bad in a pinch, but I have much better options around me, and for that I'm thankful.

Edit: smoked tabasco though...now you've got my attention

 

[Whiskeyjack]

Does Arizona contribute anything to the world other than electoral votes? Asking for a friend.

Edit: copper. You guys give us copper. Thank you.

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[woolybug25]

That's like saying "one of the finest turds in the toilet bowl."

Cities are gross. Cities are where human beings go to live like bees. City parks are sad places for people who don't have any trees of their own. Don't be a poor. Own your own trees.

8.4 Million New Yorkers Suddenly Realize New York City A Horrible Place To Live - The Onion - America's Finest News Source

That's stupid. I'm the last person that would "live" in a big city, but to act like they are epicenters of culture, arts and entertainment is foolish. There is no small town anywhere in America that can compare in those elements. I choose to live in Rural America myself, but I'm quite happy that I am close enough to Chicago to be able to get real culture every once in a while. If someone values those things moreso than having a yard, then by all mean, live in a big city.

Kinda funny that you are calling people that pay up to ten times the price per square footage poors. If anything, they could call you a poor.

You are a poor.

poor...

 

[wizards8507]

Kinda funny that you are calling people that pay up to ten times the price per square footage poors. If anything, they could call you a poor.

Lifestyle and wealth are not the same thing, you know better. I have zero respect for the idea of a grown man living with a roommate. It's a half-step above mom's basement.

You are a poor.

poor...

Reported.

 

[woolybug25]

Lifestyle and wealth are not the same thing, you know better. I have zero respect for the idea of a grown man living with a roommate. It's a half-step above mom's basement.

There's no reason to bring Dakota into this...

 

[zelezo vlk]

Lifestyle and wealth are not the same thing, you know better. I have zero respect for the idea of a grown man living with a roommate. It's a half-step above mom's basement.

You mean, outside of people intentionally living in community? What's your solution for a "grown man" living with a roommate to save money to buy a house. Or is he not a grown man until he has a house etc?

Repoorted.

ftfy

 

[Rack Em]

Guys, we're getting away from the real discussion here: Chicago is such a mess that soon everyone there will be taxed so much they'll be the poors.

 

[NorthDakota]

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I regret nothing..........

There's no reason to bring Dakota into this...

Thx bruh. Sry not all of us are married with children Wiz