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    Votes: 172 48.9%
  • Other

    Votes: 46 13.1%
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I'd see to this myself... no sense passing this one off to the underlings.

IE: "Will no one rid of me of this troublesome papist?"

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Roger Ailes has died. Wow. Sending deep and heartfelt condolences to everyone who was abused, harassed, exploited, and unjustly fired by him</p>— Marc Lamont Hill (@marclamonthill) <a href="https://twitter.com/marclamonthill/status/865188958921265152">May 18, 2017</a></blockquote>
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Stay classy, Dr. Hill.
 

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Roger Ailes has died. Wow. Sending deep and heartfelt condolences to everyone who was abused, harassed, exploited, and unjustly fired by him</p>— Marc Lamont Hill (@marclamonthill) <a href="https://twitter.com/marclamonthill/status/865188958921265152">May 18, 2017</a></blockquote>
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Stay classy, Dr. Hill.

Nothing like putting a "Hooray! ________ is DEAD!" message out to the public
 

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">.<a href="https://twitter.com/PPact">@PPact</a> couldn't come up with better wording than this?! <br>'our responsibility to use our superpowers to slay."<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ppslaysbabies?src=hash">#ppslaysbabies</a><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/defundPP?src=hash">#defundPP</a> <a href="https://t.co/mIhkbWSASq">pic.twitter.com/mIhkbWSASq</a></p>— Students for Life (@Students4LifeHQ) <a href="https://twitter.com/Students4LifeHQ/status/865194858721488897">May 18, 2017</a></blockquote>
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Yeah, probably a poor word choice.
 

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Theresa May buries Thatcherism. One of the least expected Tory leaders might prove to be one of the most historically significant. <a href="https://t.co/EPIAxpL2Tk">pic.twitter.com/EPIAxpL2Tk</a></p>— Tim Stanley (@timothy_stanley) <a href="https://twitter.com/timothy_stanley/status/865159448628789249">May 18, 2017</a></blockquote>
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Where's the American Theresa May?
 

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Feds subpoena records for $3.5M mystery mortgage on Manafort's home

Process is used to disguise lenders, borrowers and used for money-laudering. Bank records will be able to disclose the sources despite the use of LLCs and multiple banks. (CNBC)

Dirty money: Trump and the Kazakh connection (Financial Times)

Ever since a series of bankruptcies left banks unwilling to lend to him, Donald Trump has been on the lookout for partners willing to fund the buildings that bear his name.

Over the years the US presidential candidate has assembled an eclectic collection of backers and collaborators. Some had chequered pasts, with links to organised crime or fraud schemes. But perhaps the biggest risk for Mr Trump’s complex, often opaque, business empire was that it might be used for a purpose US officials fear is rife in the country’s real estate sector: laundering dirty money......
 
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">"There is no more degenerate kind of state than that in which the richest are supposed to be the best." -Cicero</p>— C. C. Pecknold (@ccpecknold) <a href="https://twitter.com/ccpecknold/status/865655243773693954">May 19, 2017</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">"As unlimited license comes to a head, citizens become so tender & hypersensitive that slightest hint of authority enrages them..." -Cicero</p>— C. C. Pecknold (@ccpecknold) <a href="https://twitter.com/ccpecknold/status/865663268207169536">May 19, 2017</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">"It is because of our own moral failings that we are left with the name of the Republic, having long lost its substance." Cicero</p>— C. C. Pecknold (@ccpecknold) <a href="https://twitter.com/ccpecknold/status/866472115431772161">May 22, 2017</a></blockquote>
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Those quotes all come from Cicero's On the Commonwealth, written in 54 BC.
 

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">"There is no more degenerate kind of state than that in which the richest are supposed to be the best." -Cicero</p>— C. C. Pecknold (@ccpecknold) <a href="https://twitter.com/ccpecknold/status/865655243773693954">May 19, 2017</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">"As unlimited license comes to a head, citizens become so tender & hypersensitive that slightest hint of authority enrages them..." -Cicero</p>— C. C. Pecknold (@ccpecknold) <a href="https://twitter.com/ccpecknold/status/865663268207169536">May 19, 2017</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">"It is because of our own moral failings that we are left with the name of the Republic, having long lost its substance." Cicero</p>— C. C. Pecknold (@ccpecknold) <a href="https://twitter.com/ccpecknold/status/866472115431772161">May 22, 2017</a></blockquote>
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Those quotes all come from Cicero's On the Commonwealth, written in 54 BC.



Aw Whiskey...everyone knows he was the Alex Jones of his time. You are better than that!
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For anyone else's sake out there...I am just playing with Whiskey...having a little fun. Used Sarcastic font and put in Mr T emoticon

Just teasing


ok...move along now
 

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">"There is no more degenerate kind of state than that in which the richest are supposed to be the best." -Cicero</p>— C. C. Pecknold (@ccpecknold) <a href="https://twitter.com/ccpecknold/status/865655243773693954">May 19, 2017</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">"As unlimited license comes to a head, citizens become so tender & hypersensitive that slightest hint of authority enrages them..." -Cicero</p>— C. C. Pecknold (@ccpecknold) <a href="https://twitter.com/ccpecknold/status/865663268207169536">May 19, 2017</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">"It is because of our own moral failings that we are left with the name of the Republic, having long lost its substance." Cicero</p>— C. C. Pecknold (@ccpecknold) <a href="https://twitter.com/ccpecknold/status/866472115431772161">May 22, 2017</a></blockquote>
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Those quotes all come from a white cisgendered heteronormative patriarchy-pushing male's On the Commonwealth, written in 54 BC.

ftfy
 

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">"There is no more degenerate kind of state than that in which the richest are supposed to be the best." -Cicero</p>— C. C. Pecknold (@ccpecknold) <a href="https://twitter.com/ccpecknold/status/865655243773693954">May 19, 2017</a></blockquote>
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Who says the richest are supposed to be the best?
 

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Who says the richest are supposed to be the best?

I don't think anyone does say it, but it's actively implied in our society. The rich BUY the best goods, GET the best educations, WORK the best jobs, and RECEIVE the best services in the country.*

On top of all of these, they are able to influence our society and culture, both directly and indirectly.


*Not exactly an scientific fact I hold true, but you get the point.
 

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Michael Brendan Dougherty just published his first article in NRO titled "Trumpism Without Trump in the UK":

Donald Trump began fumbling the ball almost as soon as he ran away with it. The political revolution that was Trumpism is on hold for now, while the White House undergoes a series of scandals. All for reasons that are specific to Donald Trump: his lazy personnel decisions, his egotism, his inability to focus or master the forces that govern the Republican Congress. What if you could have Trumpism without Donald Trump? That is, what if you could take the same basic issues — sovereignty, immigration ruled by law, and economic policies meant to promote social stability — and get rid of Trump’s moral turpitude, personal indiscipline, and the most noxious and divisive parts of his rhetoric?

Well, it would look a lot like the campaign being run by the Tory party under Theresa May. That is, it would look like an electoral juggernaut with revolutionary potential.

By now, most people have realized that the populist rebellion against globalism runs across much of the Western world. And in hindsight it is easy to see that it has been bubbling up for decades. Across different countries it basically had the same animating political logic: Its enthusiasts wanted to combine traditional conservative voters with the remains of the post–World War II proletariat, especially the part of that class that believed they were losing ground.

That political dream appeared in a recent interview with Marine Le Pen’s niece, Marion Maréchel–Le Pen, who is retiring from politics. The youngest Le Pen said that to overcome the political status quo, in which progressive-flavored globalism sweeps all before it, a political movement would need to unite the conservative bourgeoisie with the working classes. It was the same political vision that animated Pat Buchanan when he told a Republican convention in 1992 that in the faces of unemployed steel and mill workers he saw “our people,” people he described as “conservatives of the heart.”

The political rationale is obvious. Such a combination would force the political center-left to become the party of Goldman Sachs and campus speech codes. It would turn the center-left into the party of the H.R. department that trains you in what to say and think because you are a Neanderthal, and then your company downsizes you, because it can get an environmental subsidy for outsourcing to the Third World the pollution associated with your job. In other words, the populist conservative promise was to reduce the opposition to a party of Hillary Clinton enthusiasts. And it is exactly what Trump did to win. He combined the heartland and southern states that were conservative stalwarts with what Michael Moore called the “Brexit states” of Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin, and Ohio.

But Teresa May is doing him one better. She is not just poised to squeak by in the upcoming snap election; she is set to inflict a rout on all the other parties in British politics. Nigel Farage’s UKIP has basically collapsed in a heap now that May’s Tories have embraced Brexit with zest. Some feared that Tory enthusiasm for Brexit would breathe new life into demands for a Scottish independence referendum. Instead, the misgovernment of the Scottish Nationalists in Holyrood and May’s “One Nation” rhetoric have brought about the improbable resurrection of the conservative Unionist tradition in Scotland.

And now May is pushing the Tory campaign deep into the Labour heartlands. And she’s taking more and more issues away from Labour. The Tory party’s manifesto calls for raising the minimum wage and for price caps on energy bills. It also calls for a new statutory right to take time off work to look after loved ones on a full-time basis, a move meant to strengthen social care and possibly reduce costs that are passed on to NHS. It’s enough to give orthodox Thatcherites fits.

But May is not just getting to the left of David Cameron and other Tory predecessors, she’s also getting to their right. She’s talked about reversing the restrictions on fox hunting, an issue that has deep cultural resonance for the English upper class and economic impact for low-paid country workers, too. She’s talked about reviving the role of grammar schools in English life, selective schools whose ethos was decidedly not egalitarian but instead focused on social mobility. Grammar schools fell out of favor because they weren’t focused on destroying class distinctions in British life; they aimed to recruit the best talent from below to the highest levels of British life.

May has hit the ground running with this political revolution in part because the intellectual groundwork was already done. In the U.K., political entrepreneurs dreamed of what an anti-globalization politics could do for each of the major parties. A decade ago, Philip Blond wrote a book promoting “Red Toryism,” arguing that Britain’s political elite needed to get over individualism and focus on a conservative communitarianism. That way, the Right could steal working-class voters and leave New Labour as the party of financiers and the thought police of political correctness. On the other side, Maurice Glasman, a member of Ed Miliband’s Labour-party brain trust, preached “Blue Labour,” which was meant to head off any dream of the Red Tories, by reversing Labour’s stance on immigration, which had alienated rank-and-file Labour voters. Labour rejected Glasman’s advice and continued to trade the politics of the working class for the politics of diversity. And now the Tories are set to benefit. It’s not surprising that Teresa May’s chief idea man, Nick Timothy, met with Maurice Glasman to exchange ideas ahead of the release of the Tory’s election manifesto.

It’s also working for May because she, unlike Trump, has a very keen sense of the forces at work in her party, of where she can push it to unorthodox positions and where she cannot. She’s able to round off her get-tough approach to the E.U. and the issue of migration with gestures of genuine respect to all members of Britain’s life. And Brexit itself is pushing into May’s party the former Labour voters in the Northeast who supported it. And the Tories might be on a trajectory for a historic majority, leaving May just as popular a figure in her own country as Angela Merkel is in Germany.

The contrasting fortunes of May and Trump are a powerful lesson that politics is not just an arena where impersonal forces arrange every piece on the board; it is played by men and women. Conservative nationalism is a winning formula. But savvy and virtue still count for a lot.
 

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">"There is no more degenerate kind of state than that in which the richest are supposed to be the best." -Cicero</p>— C. C. Pecknold (@ccpecknold) <a href="https://twitter.com/ccpecknold/status/865655243773693954">May 19, 2017</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">"As unlimited license comes to a head, citizens become so tender & hypersensitive that slightest hint of authority enrages them..." -Cicero</p>— C. C. Pecknold (@ccpecknold) <a href="https://twitter.com/ccpecknold/status/865663268207169536">May 19, 2017</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">"It is because of our own moral failings that we are left with the name of the Republic, having long lost its substance." Cicero</p>— C. C. Pecknold (@ccpecknold) <a href="https://twitter.com/ccpecknold/status/866472115431772161">May 22, 2017</a></blockquote>
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Those quotes all come from Cicero's On the Commonwealth, written in 54 BC.

The fake news of the Roman Empire. MSM treated Caesar very unfairly.
 

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Students protest ICE representative’s visit to campus - The Daily Northwestern

Students protested the visit of an Immigration and Customs Enforcement public relations officer to campus Tuesday, saying the representative’s presence on campus could be dangerous and hurtful for undocumented people at Northwestern.
Members of MEChA de Northwestern, Black Lives Matter NU, the Immigrant Justice Project, the Asian Pacific American Coalition, NU Queer Trans Intersex People of Color and Rainbow Alliance gathered outside Harris Hall as the unidentified ICE representative began a guest presentation for Sociology 201. The class, taught by Prof. Beth Redbird, focuses on examining “inequality in American society with an emphasis on race, class and gender,” according to its syllabus.
The class began at 3:30 p.m., around the time when student demonstrators entered Harris Hall, holding banners and chanting “F—k ICE” outside the classroom. Protesting students were told by University administrators at the scene, including dean of students Todd Adams, that they would be allowed into Redbird’s class if they did not disrupt the presentation.
Students then walked into the classroom but did not sit down, instead holding up banners and asking Redbird why she invited the ICE representative and if she had considered the possible effect the visit may have on undocumented students or students who know someone who has been detained by the federal agency.
ICE, a federal law enforcement agency under the U.S. Department of Homeland Security, implements immigration, customs and border control laws. During the demonstration, student protesters said ICE is responsible for the separation of families with undocumented members.
The agency, which is in charge of investigating, arresting, detaining and removing foreigners from the country, has been criticized for its arrest methods, treatment of detainees and detention center conditions. Earlier this year, ICE led a series of raids across the country where half of the detained were undocumented immigrants with no criminal records or minor offenses.
Soon after demonstrators entered the class, the ICE representative left the room and Redbird stayed to answer students’ questions. Redbird said she invited the ICE representative so they would explain to students how the agency works.
Redbird, who joined Northwestern last year, told demonstrators she invited the ICE public relations officer to speak to students as one half of a two-class discussion.
“All they did was come here today to answer questions so that you know what’s going on, so that you are informed and so that you can make decisions,” she told students. “If you want to make change in a community, you need to know what’s going on.”

Redbird said she planned to have an undocumented person visit the class Thursday as the second half of the discussion, but during the protest she decided to cancel the presentation over fears for the speaker’s safety and privacy.

Some student demonstrators left the room after expressing their concerns, saying they did not want to discuss Redbird’s motivations. Others stayed in the room and told Redbird and her students that inviting an ICE representative could be hurtful to some.
Redbird dismissed the class at 3:45 p.m. because of the protests, but most in the room stayed to listen to the discussion between Redbird and the demonstrators.
SESP sophomore April Navarro, a MEChA member who helped organize the protest, told The Daily though having the representative on campus might have come from the idea of having a “good, nice conversation with ICE,” the agency and its representatives shouldn’t come to NU because they “terrorize communities” and profit from detainee labor.
“We’re not interested in having those types of conversations that would be like, ‘Oh, let’s listen to their side of it’ because that’s making them passive rule-followers rather than active proponents of violence,” Navarro said. “We’re not engaging in those kinds of things; it legitimizes ICE’s violence, it makes Northwestern complicit in this. There’s an unequal power balance that happens when you deal with state apparatuses.”

Redbird told The Daily she invited protesters into the classroom to engage in dialogue with both the ICE officer and her students, and that she wanted her students to know why the protesters were there as well. Redbird’s students were notified two weeks ago there would be an ICE officer as a guest speaker, Redbird said, and they were given readings to prepare for the discussion, which was intended to be based on policy. A Department of Justice representative was also going to speak during Tuesday’s class, Redbird said.
Several protesters asked Redbird during the demonstration why she didn’t have the officers answer the classes’ questions via email or Skype. Redbird said she wanted to have a more engaging dialogue.
University spokesman Al Cubbage told The Daily after the demonstration that it was “disappointing that the speakers were not allowed to speak.”
Professors, Cubbage said, may invite whomever they like to speak to their classes. He said it was unfortunate that Redbird’s speakers could not share their experiences with the class.
“The University believes very much that if you have concerns about an idea or position, the solution is not to censor or prevent someone from expressing those ideas, it is to provide more discussion and more discourse,” Cubbage said. “More speech is better than no speech.”

Redbird told The Daily she intended to provide her students with the opportunity to learn from the ICE officer.
“In our society, knowledge is power, and I want to make my students as powerful as possible,” she said. “When we keep ourselves ignorant, we deny ourselves power.”
But demonstrating students told The Daily freedom of speech is often used to defend views that can be damaging to some. They said demonstrators were using their own freedom of speech by voicing their concern about the ICE representative.
“There are people who would be listening to this ICE representative and agreeing with them and maybe one day becoming an ICE agent or co-signing and supporting them and that in itself is violence,” said Communication sophomore Danielle Douge, a MEChA and BLMNU member at the demonstration. “I had a right to be in that building and I had the right to speak and say whatever I wanted. I had the right myself to tell her I don’t want the ICE person on this campus.”

Nora Shelly contributed reporting.
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Twitter: @marianaa_alfaro
 

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All Trump garbage aside, how weak and pathetic are these Republicans in the House and Senate? One of the reasons I'm a registered Libertarian. Republicans control everything right now and have accomplished nothing legislatively.

Contrast that with Democrats 2009 and it's night and day. Dems wasted no time on the stimulus and ACA with majority. Republicans can't even get tax reform done. Embarrassing.
 

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All Trump garbage aside, how weak and pathetic are these Republicans in the House and Senate? One of the reasons I'm a registered Libertarian. Republicans control everything right now and have accomplished nothing legislatively.

Contrast that with Democrats 2009 and it's night and day. Dems wasted no time on the stimulus and ACA with majority. Republicans can't even get tax reform done. Embarrassing.

Tax reform should have been on Trump's desk the first week in office. Republicans suck - Dem Lites is more like it. Registered independent myself - the whole reason we can't have nice things is Rs inability to embrace the libertarian principles they run ON in elections but run FROM in office. They don't want smaller government any more than Dems do.
 

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...some places still like to knuckle it out. Guardian reporter missed the memo?

Seriously though, In years gone by, folks would have been outraged anywhere...as well they should be.

Now, I'm guessing flyovers like Montana see the press as the enemy, and while this politician may suffer consequences legally, I suspect his constituency will grow from this.

Can't wait to see this guy's welcome from the DC press...he should just stay home.
 

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Here the fun thing about MT, I have heard estimates (who knows if they are true, thanks internet) that up to 65% of those who will vote have already voted. Thus people who think this is an outrage have already effectively pulled the lever for him and can't take it back.
 

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WOW: Debbie Wasserman Schultz caught on TAPE threatening police chief for investigating IT crimes – twitchy.com

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Wassermsn Schultz is on tape threatening a police chief for not relinquishing evidence in a criminal investigation <a href="https://t.co/kr78AZWZdK">https://t.co/kr78AZWZdK</a></p>— Stephen Miller (@redsteeze) <a href="https://twitter.com/redsteeze/status/867755010972635137">May 25, 2017</a></blockquote>
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