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  • Obama

    Votes: 4 1.1%
  • Romney

    Votes: 172 48.9%
  • Other

    Votes: 46 13.1%
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Agree. For the record, I am generally opposed to people being fired for saying ignorant things on tv. If you don't like what they say then turn the channel. In some instances, firing may be the best and only real answer depending on the situation, what was said, etc. But most people do not want to have a real conversation about racism in this country. It is, and always will be, a two way street. Unfortunately in our politically correct world we live in today, too many try to start that conversation looking down a one way street.

I completely disagree with the bolded. I think the media should be held to a higher standard. Any form of propaganda and rhetoric, repeated over and over, can shift the mindset of viewers. I think it's important that that rhetoric be factually informative and free from any Right/Left slant. I find it extremely irresponsible of them to say ignorant things in the media, knowing that it could impact the millions watching, etc. Journalism used to be about bringing objective material regarding a subject into story form to inform it's readers/listeners/viewers. Nowadays, it's about being "first to break the news" regardless of whether it's even accurate. That's wrong. And I find it annoying that every single time I read an article, I immediately have to fact-check it to see if it's even true or slanted. Simply "turning the channel" doesn't address this problem.
 

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I completely disagree with the bolded. I think the media should be held to a higher standard. Any form of propaganda and rhetoric, repeated over and over, can shift the mindset of viewers. I think it's important that that rhetoric be factually informative and free from any Right/Left slant. I find it extremely irresponsible of them to say ignorant things in the media, knowing that it could impact the millions watching, etc. Journalism used to be about bringing objective material regarding a subject into story form to inform it's readers/listeners/viewers. Nowadays, it's about being "first to break the news" regardless of whether it's even accurate. That's wrong. And I find it annoying that every single time I read an article, I immediately have to fact-check it to see if it's even true or slanted. Simply "turning the channel" doesn't address this problem.

Journalistic integrity literally died the day cable news started. While I agree journalists should be held to a higher standard, I am also well aware of the microwave news society we will in today. What that higer standard is and what the punishment should be if not upheld is surely up for debate. And as long as the owners of those outlets continue to push their agenda it will not get any better in the near future.

I actually watch channels such as MSNBC to try and get their point of view on the issues of today. While I do disagree with much of what they report, what their opinions are, etc., it at least makes me stop and think about it a little more than maybe otherwise. My inherent "political filter" is still there but I would hope that it at least allows me to think a little deeper than just summarily dismissing what I don't agree with. And as bad as I think some of these channels are, they do bring some valid points from time to time.
 

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Ryan T. Anderson eloquently articulates the case for religious liberty at an LGBT conference:

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Very impressed with the audience and the moderator. They handled that well. I was at the Notre Dame Forum on immigration as an undergrad and the "yay-boo" crowd responses were embarrassing.
 

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The NYT wrings its hands about the "lack" of black FBS coaches. They talk about Mike London (while not mentioning his 27-46 record) and fail to mention that successful black coaches, like David Shaw, are not fired.

There is so much pressure to win in college football- how stupid do you think ADs are? They don't want to hire somebody who will win? If they believed a black coach would win more than their current white coach, they would hire him. They can't afford to care about the race of the candidate.
 

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Principal in New York bans Christmas, Thanksgiving | Watch the video - Yahoo Finance

This is truly getting out of control. Do we still live in America?

A few things here:

1) Even in NY, this is absolute bullshit.

2) Fundamental transformation

3) How in NY does a principal alone have the authority to do this? I can only speak for PA, but I don't think a principal would get away with that here. It would have to be a district wide decision, which would have been approved by the school board.
 

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no explanation for the change...THATS BAD.

actually it does give a reason for the change:


UPDATE: The New York Times claimed in a statement late Friday morning that its deletion of the Obama passage was not “unusual” and that it was merely “trimmed for space in the print paper”:

The problem with this explanation is that it doesn’t make any sense when you review the first major online revision, which Newsdiffs.org archived at 10:21 p.m. EST. In that version, only one substantive revision was made: the paragraph about Obama not watching enough cable TV was removed and replaced with two paragraphs about Obama’s plan to combat ISIS.

The section that was removed contained 66 words. The section that was added in its place contained 116 words. If the New York Times was indeed “trimming for space” in that particular revision, it will need to explain why its revision to that section added 50 words.
 

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Obama saying that he wasn't watching enough cable tv is a "devastating admission"? lol

First of all, I don't see this as much of a story. I really don't care if Obama felt he wasn't watching enough tv, hell.. I thought watching too much cable television was a bad thing? Anywho, there are probably 5 political stories going on right now vastly more important than the Prez' viewing habits or if NY Times decided to delete it. Just my opinion.
 

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no explanation for the change...THATS BAD.

I gotta remind myself to scroll on...as soon as I see "comments" I'm trained to think article over. Old guy problem. Anyway, at least they acknowledged they changed it...even if the explanation was completely lame ass. I mean that explanation did nothing to help the notion that they are a in the bag liberal rag worthy of the bottom of bird cages...but it did restore a little faith they have some integrity.
 

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Obama saying that he wasn't watching enough cable tv is a "devastating admission"? lol

First of all, I don't see this as much of a story. I really don't care if Obama felt he wasn't watching enough tv, hell.. I thought watching too much cable television was a bad thing? Anywho, there are probably 5 political stories going on right now vastly more important than the Prez' viewing habits or if NY Times decided to delete it. Just my opinion.

You are completely missing the point. It isn't about whether Obama was watching TV. It is that he is so out of touch with American's concerns on terrorism that he would suggest he needed to "watch cable" to understand it.
 

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Nativity removed; governor says it 'mocks Christians'

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The Week's Michael Brendan Dougherty just published an article titled "Abdelhamid Abaaoud, Man of the Year 2015":

Last year, journalists Etienne Huver and Guillaume Lhotellier got hold of video footage from Syria's civil war. The video features Abdelhamid Abaaoud, a young man who was born in 1987 and raised near the heart of European progressive government and society, in the Sint-Jans-Molenbeek neighborhood of Brussels. In the video, he and his comrades load bloody corpses into the back of a pickup truck. Abaaoud turns to the camera and brags, "Before we towed jet skis, motorcycles, quad bikes, big trailers filled with gifts for vacation in Morocco. Now, thank God, following God's path, we're towing apostates, infidels who are fighting us."

This line would be a fitting epitaph for Western civilization itself. You gave us pleasures, we wanted your heads instead.

Abaaoud would go on to plan the devastating terror attacks in Paris on Nov. 13 of this year. He died a few days later, probably as he intended, in the storm of bullets and grenade fire during a raid in the St. Denis suburb of Paris. The Crusaders killed him. He was a young man, a kind of prosumer-level jihadi tourist, not a terrorist mastermind.

Abdelhamid Abaaoud is my choice for Man of the Year 2015.

It's that story arc that makes Abaaoud unforgettable and terrifying: "Before we towed jet skis." Now we tow corpses of infidels. It is the perfect rebuke to the conceit of Western materialism, which runs something like this: Progress will, eventually, deliver us all into leisure, contentment, and peace. His attack on Paris' soft targets may have been chosen for their vulnerability. But they were also the perfect symbols of modern Western life: people enjoying pleasures at night for no other reason but to enjoy them. Restaurants, a rock concert, a sporting event. Abaaoud's grin tells us: Your pleasures mean nothing to me.

Abaaoud also grinned in the pages of Dabiq, the English-language magazine of the Islamic State. (Nothing could be more 2015 than an English-language jihadi publication emanating from the deserts shared between Iraq and Syria.) And there in Dabiq, in the early part of 2015, is an interview with Abaaoud. He brags about evading the Crusader authorities, making the travel back and forth between Europe, where he was wanted as a dangerous man, and Syria.

[T]he kuffār were blinded by Allah. I was even stopped by an officer who contemplated me so as to compare me to the picture, but he let me go, as he did not see the resemblance! [Dabiq]

He thanks Allah for our confusion.

So they gathered intelligence agents from all over the world — from Europe and America — in order to detain me. They arrested Muslims in Greece, Spain, France, and Belgium in order to apprehend me. Subhānallāh, all those arrested were not even connected to our plans! [Dabiq]

This widely cast suspicion has been brutally effective. Indeed, the Paris attackers' clever use of the refugee crisis to disguise two of the co-conspirators has radically altered the debate about refugees and immigration in Europe and America. At the same time, Abaaoud himself is reason to fear more than terrorists hiding among the refugees.

Abaaoud is the sign that the Syrian civil war can, like the Spanish civil war, engage the imagination, fury, and sympathy of people around the world. The effects of it can be seen everywhere. You see it in the sudden interest in shutting down "parts of the internet," so that our men and women can't be seduced by ISIS propaganda. You can see it when the socialist government of France adopts the policies of repression that were, until yesterday, the property of the National Front. You can see it in the spiritual and quasi-political defection of Eastern European nations from the globalist consensus of Brussels. Hungary and Poland aren't interested in a multicultural Europe, not if it means inviting in people who will raise new Abdelhamid Abaaouds.

Abaaoud's story is not one that simply drives fear of something alien and outside and "other." It drives fear of men who are already living here. We see Abaaoud in the San Bernardino killers. Neither of them were masterminds. They just wanted glory, action, and to impress their imagined peers in the jihadi movement.

Abaaoud is the Man of the Year for personalizing the terror. He is Man of the Year for symbolizing Western impotence and indifference in the battle against ISIS. And he is Man of the Year for being the new thing. He is not like the old terrorists of the Middle East who were battle hardened against Soviet- or American-sponsored enemies at home. He is the monster creation of Western alienation and Middle Eastern religious radicalism. He is a terrorist well-fitted for the age of ambitious startups. And he is Man of the Year because he is the unwelcome reminder that even people who know the Western way of life intimately are capable of despising it.
 

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Does anyone have cliff notes on the President's speech on gun control? I haven't been able to follow.
 

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Does anyone have cliff notes on the President's speech on gun control? I haven't been able to follow.

Expanded background checks to include all in the business of selling guns -- including on line sales with prosecution for those who do not comply

Expanding staff that reviews applications to purchase guns and modernizing background check system to increase efficiency and thoroughness

Push for technology to make guns safer, such as fingerprint ID to make them functional

Calls for Americans to make a difference in the voting booth to ensure representatives are promoting the will of the people when it comes to common sense measures to curb gun violence

Expanded mental health coverage
 

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Expanded background checks to include all in the business of selling guns -- including on line sales with prosecution for those who do not comply

Expanding staff that reviews applications to purchase guns and modernizing background check system to increase efficiency and thoroughness

Push for technology to make guns safer, such as fingerprint ID to make them functional

Calls for Americans to make a difference in the voting booth to ensure representatives are promoting the will of the people when it comes to common sense measures to curb gun violence

Expanded mental health coverage

Thanks.
 

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The biggest issue I see with this expanded mental health blockages, if implemented incorrectly, would lead to even more people not seeking mental healthcare they desperately need in fear of losing their right to own a gun.
 

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Playing Devil's Advocate...

Expanded background checks to include all in the business of selling guns -- including on line sales with prosecution for those who do not comply
----Prosecution for those who do not comply? There are already a lot of offenses that do not get prosecuted now

Expanding staff that reviews applications to purchase guns and modernizing background check system to increase efficiency and thoroughness
----Hopefully it goes way smoother than the ACA website

Push for technology to make guns safer, such as fingerprint ID to make them functional
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Calls for Americans to make a difference in the voting booth to ensure representatives are promoting the will of the people when it comes to common sense measures to curb gun violence
----Considering that the NRA is a volunteer organization whose membership has only increased during the current administration, who is to say that by electing who they have in Congress the last few times isn't already promoting the will of the people as compared to what he says the will of the people is/should be

Expanded mental health coverage
---NDLightning 35's take of people not getting checked or doctors potentially going overboard by knocking out anyone with any minor thing for fear that a liability suit will come back on them if someone they checked every has a break

Other than maybe the fingerprint item above, what of those stops any of the last 5 mass shootings? What of the above stops any of the gang gun violence in say Chicago or LA? Those won't even stop those who use a gun for suicide (a good chunk of statistical gun violence victims) unless they first go to see someone about their problem.

I am not pro-mass shootings, I am pretty sure no one is. However, I just don't see where this helps.

And why not try to implement mandatory minimum sentencing for anyone convicted of a gun crime to cut down on repeat offenders?
 

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Playing Devil's Advocate...



Other than maybe the fingerprint item above, what of those stops any of the last 5 mass shootings? What of the above stops any of the gang gun violence in say Chicago or LA? Those won't even stop those who use a gun for suicide (a good chunk of statistical gun violence victims) unless they first go to see someone about their problem.

I am not pro-mass shootings, I am pretty sure no one is. However, I just don't see where this helps.

And why not try to implement mandatory minimum sentencing for anyone convicted of a gun crime to cut down on repeat offenders?

Not saying that I disagree with your premise, but the bolded is often said and there is a lot of evidence to the contrary.

We're still learning the facts about what happened in Chattanooga, however, recent media reports indicate the gunman took advantage of the online gun sale loophole and purchased at least one of his firearms where he knew he could buy a gun with no background check, no questions asked.

And a month has passed since the Charleston shooting, and we're learning a lot about the white supremacist who violently disrupted the sanctity of a Bible study and about how he got his gun. We now know the accused killer bought his gun from a federally licensed dealer with an incomplete background check.

That bears repeating: Dylann Roof was able to buy a gun with an incomplete background check.
Gun law loopholes enabled Charleston, Chattanooga? - CNN.com
 

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As a conservative, I really don't see why people have any problems with closing down gun shows, or more favorably - replacing that style of gun marketplace with a stricter consumer gun market. That doesn't tread on anyone's right to own a gun, it's just a smarter, more precautionary approach to the flow of firearms.

What burns my ass is people like Hillary Clinton who want to repeal the Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act, which protects lawful gun distributors from repercussions if people decide to break the law with their weapons. Why go out of you way to strip protections away from those who are doing things the right way when you could just target those who do things the wrong way?
 

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I have zero issue with ensuring that everyone who buys a gun passes a background check.

I do find it humorous (and sad) that American citizens will go through more "screenings" and "checks" to exercise their 2nd Amendment rights than most of the migrants we're bringing in and the millions of illegals who have already crossed our borders.
 
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