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Politics

  • Obama

    Votes: 4 1.1%
  • Romney

    Votes: 172 48.9%
  • Other

    Votes: 46 13.1%
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    Votes: 130 36.9%

  • Total voters
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phgreek

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Yeah I know. Just wanted to get it on the record that I won't moving to Canada, regardless of what happens tomorrow. Don't want to get all the Canadian women in a tizzy.

Reps for tracking down my quote, though.

...Thats one of those...Why did I remember that...

I was laughing at myself...spend too much time on here.

Guess I'll check in with the mayhem tomorrow...

Here is to hoping this gets decided before lawyers get involved.
 

dshans

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Funny that beer would come up in a conversation about Jimmy Carter. Remember this crap?]

Beer and politics don't mix. Burgundy and politics don't mix. Not well, anyway. Not to any acceptable or agreeable end at the very least.
 

irishff1014

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Going be a long day for alot of people tomorrow. I think no matter how you vote for president we all need to change the house and senate. these are the guys that are really cause problems for the country.
 
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Romney is going to bring home the upset victory tomorrow.

That's my prediction.
 

NDFan4Life

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This will be my last post in this thread. It's been a pleasure discussing the issues with everyone here. Where politics is concerned, there's always going to be heated debates. I've learned quite a bit in this thread, and I hope I've contrbuted somewhat to the debate.

TGIED!!!

Now, get those damn commercials off my TV!!!
 

autry_denson

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One more question for all: Is there anyone out there who thinks the guy they support is going to lose?

If our judgments are based on evidence and we all have basically the same evidence available to us (this is kind of a big assumption, I realize) then there should be minimal disagreement on how things will turn out even if there's major disagreement on how we want things to turn out.I'm interested in just how severe our collective confirmation bias is in this case.
 

drayer54

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This will be my last post in this thread. It's been a pleasure discussing the issues with everyone here. Where politics is concerned, there's always going to be heated debates. I've learned quite a bit in this thread, and I hope I've contrbuted somewhat to the debate.

TGIED!!!

Now, get those damn commercials off my TV!!!

I want the phone calls to end, the commercials to end, the pundits to go away, and the people to stop coming to my door. I even had a sitting member of Congress come to my door and ask for my vote. It's those swing state blues, I tell ya!
 

RDU Irish

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Autry - I am undecided (on who wins). We are well within the margin of error on many polls and I do believe they oversampled democrats. While the Karl Rove discussion of a 260,000 early vote swing to Romney's favor is compelling, that data comes from Republicans. If I could confirm that data somewhere else I would have high confidence in Romney winning Ohio. As is, I have to mark it up to propaganda.

My tinfoil hat tells me the pollsters work for media. Media generally wants Obama to win, thus their biases toward Obama. Likewise Rasmussen and Gallup pander to Fox. You have a 3 or 4 network to 1 battle there (ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN versus Fox) which implies to me potential for skewness.

I also think Silver got lucky last time around. The averages averaged out perfectly. We are within the margin of error or pretty much every poll on a national and swing state level, something like 10 or 12 states are legitimately debatable.

I also fall back on the anecdotal evidence that I know plenty of Obama supporters that are 1) switching to Romney or 2) not voting. No one I know has switched from McCain to Romney or McCain to abstain.

So short of starting my own political blog and going nuts with statistical analysis, I have to say it is too close to call.

I agree with whoever said Libertarians need to target some Senate seats, quickest and most realistic way to impact the debate, preferably "moderate" libertarians and not extremist kooks.
 

Polish Leppy 22

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My fb status this morning...

"Last Friday Obama told his drones to go out and vote for revenge. On the same day Mitt Romney asked his supporters to vote for love of their country.

Last call, America."

Not making a prediction, but I see a ton of coffee being consumed tonight, thankful we all have the rights we do (for now), and God Bless America.
 

RDU Irish

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I want the phone calls to end, the commercials to end, the pundits to go away, and the people to stop coming to my door. I even had a sitting member of Congress come to my door and ask for my vote. It's those swing state blues, I tell ya!

Iowa has been pummelled pretty much for two years with this crap. I was visiting my parents in July and nothing but political ads on TV about how Romney kills kittens and Obama steals from children.

It seems Iowa is well locked up for Obama, what is your take?
 

RDU Irish

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Saw there is a state initiative to eliminate the electoral college with something like 120 EVs committed to changing their state to the national popular vote ONLY IF they get 270 EVs signed up for the pledge. Once they get 270, the popular vote becomes the whole enchillada. Could you imagine a nation wide recount? Clusterfvck extraordinaire.

My take, do more like Nebraska where they spit EVs based on congressional districts votes and give the two senate EVs to the overall state vote. Kind of ridiculous that NY, CA and TX don't even need to vote since the outcome is predetermined there.

Problem is Gerrymandering already gone wild, this would raise the stakes considerably.
 

BobD

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Election day should be a national holiday.

No matter the outcome, this process makes us all winners.
 

drayer54

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Saw there is a state initiative to eliminate the electoral college with something like 120 EVs committed to changing their state to the national popular vote ONLY IF they get 270 EVs signed up for the pledge. Once they get 270, the popular vote becomes the whole enchillada. Could you imagine a nation wide recount? Clusterfvck extraordinaire.

My take, do more like Nebraska where they spit EVs based on congressional districts votes and give the two senate EVs to the overall state vote. Kind of ridiculous that NY, CA and TX don't even need to vote since the outcome is predetermined there.

Problem is Gerrymandering already gone wild, this would raise the stakes considerably.

That doesn't solve the problem, it just puts more districts in play. Popular vote or bust!
 

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I agree. I wonder how much voter turnout would actually increase though.

I'm taking off work tomorrow so I can stay up until I know who wins.

I think the people who are going to vote are going to vote. I don't think there is any significant increase in turnout if it was a national holiday. Besides, what a crappy holiday it would be for the GOP once Romney loses.
 

BobD

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Making it a national holiday would probably lower voter turnout, escpecially if we leave it on Tuesday. Americans would request Monday off and leave town on a four day weekend.
 

Walter White

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One more question for all: Is there anyone out there who thinks the guy they support is going to lose?

If our judgments are based on evidence and we all have basically the same evidence available to us (this is kind of a big assumption, I realize) then there should be minimal disagreement on how things will turn out even if there's major disagreement on how we want things to turn out.I'm interested in just how severe our collective confirmation bias is in this case.

I am pretty confident that the man I voted for will lose. Gary Johnson's campaign was a little under funded compared to the other guys. I hope he gets 5% of the vote though.
 

Whiskeyjack

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I am pretty confident that the man I voted for will lose. Gary Johnson's campaign was a little under funded compared to the other guys. I hope he gets 5% of the vote though.

I voted for Johnson, too.
 

BobD

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Is it still a law that you can't buy booze until after 6pm on election day in Indiana? I remember thinking that was about the stupidest law ever. Like you couldn't buy it the day before? Whats it say about how lawmakers feel about voters? Voters are a bunch of stupid drunks and they'll screw up the vote?
 
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