Political Correctness thread

[kmoose]

I don't like the author's tone in the article, but the subject matter is certainly pertinent to this topic:

Sorority ditches Kentucky Derby party over racial connotations | Fox News

 

[NDPhilly]

I don't like the author's tone in the article, but the subject matter is certainly pertinent to this topic:

Sorority ditches Kentucky Derby party over racial connotations | Fox News

Lol what a joke how easily they give in to these people. Being possibly labeled as racist is worse than actually committing a crime.

 

[IrishSteelhead]

What's worse is PETA protested the party too because of the connotations of animal cruelty associated with the Kentucky Derby.

*Just kidding. Even PETA isn't this big of babies

 

[NDgradstudent]

The NYT diligently publishes an article about how 'gifted' programs in schools are usually racist because fewer blacks and Hispanics qualify for them. Who knew white lady teachers could be so wicked? But Broward County, Florida, seems to have overcome this through a "universal" testing program:

In 2005, in an effort to reduce that disparity, Broward County introduced a universal screening program, requiring that all second graders take a short nonverbal test, with high scorers referred for I.Q. testing. Under the previous system, the district had relied on teachers and parents to make those referrals.

The economists David Card of the University of California, Berkeley, and Laura Giuliano of the University of Miami studied the effects of this policy shift. The results were striking.

The share of Hispanic children identified as gifted tripled, to 6 percent from 2 percent. The share of black children rose to 3 percent from 1 percent. For whites, the gain was more muted, to 8 percent from 6 percent.

The only problem is that the system was not universal. It was a quota system, as the study referenced makes clear (pgs. 1-2):

In response to these disparities the District introduced a universal screening program in spring 2005. Under this program, all second graders completed a non‐verbal ability test, and those scoring above a threshold of 130 points (for non‐disadvantaged students) or 115 points (for ELL and FRL participants) were eligible for referral to a District psychologist for IQ testing.

The NYT articles does not mention this minor detail, of course. Instead it includes this image:

It is more important to the NYT that it advance The Narrative -white people are evil and keeping blacks and Hispanics out of gifted programs- than to report the truth.

 

[NDinL.A.]

The NYT diligently publishes an article about how 'gifted' programs in schools are usually racist because fewer blacks and Hispanics qualify for them. Who knew white lady teachers could be so wicked? But Broward County, Florida, seems to have overcome this through a "universal" testing program:



The only problem is that the system was not universal. It was a quota system, as the study referenced makes clear (pgs. 1-2):



The NYT articles does not mention this minor detail, of course. Instead it includes this image:

It is more important to the NYT that it advance The Narrative -white people are evil and keeping blacks and Hispanics out of gifted programs- than to report the truth.

You're amazing. You must be the most sheltered white man in the history of the world. Do you really think racism doesn't exist? Do you really think whites have it harder than African-Americans or Hispanics? Do you just purposely ignore study after study about institutional racism that still exists today? Do you just blindly ignore studies where it is proven that Hispanics and African-Americans are tracked and have a harder time getting into gifted program than their Anglo counterparts (I had to deal with it myself in Orange County - I had higher scores than most kids in the gifted program and my mom had to fight to get me in)?

I get it, you hate people that don't look like you, and you are desperate to #MakeAmericaWhiteAgain, but seriously, how badly do you hate people of color? No matter how bad you think you have it as a white male, until you are in someone else's shoes and are called a "spik" or a "beaner" or a "n****r", you'll never know what it's like to be in their shoes. So go ahead and show every single anecdotal case you can find about the white man is being wronged by minorities and how we are just "fashionable minorities" and we actually have it great and YOU are the one being fucked lol - truth is, you are clueless on this matter.

 

[NDgradstudent]

You're amazing. You must be the most sheltered white man in the history of the world. Do you really think racism doesn't exist? Do you really think whites have it harder than African-Americans or Hispanics? Do you just purposely ignore study after study about institutional racism that still exists today? Do you just blindly ignore studies where it is proven that Hispanics and African-Americans are tracked and have a harder time getting into gifted program than their Anglo counterparts (I had to deal with it myself in Orange County - I had higher scores than most kids in the gifted program and my mom had to fight to get me in)?

I get it, you hate people that don't look like you, and you are desperate to #MakeAmericaWhiteAgain, but seriously, how badly do you hate people of color? No matter how bad you think you have it as a white male, until you are in someone else's shoes and are called a "spik" or a "beaner" or a "n****r", you'll never know what it's like to be in their shoes. So go ahead and show every single anecdotal case you can find about the white man is being wronged by minorities and how we are just "fashionable minorities" and we actually have it great and YOU are the one being fucked lol - truth is, you are clueless on this matter.

It's very simple: I support one standard for everyone. No lowering of standards for the gifted program so that more blacks and Hispanics get in, no lowering of standards for the Marines so more women can get in, etc. That is 'equal opportunity.'

Have everyone take a test, without their name or race attached to it, and set some threshold score above which any student is admitted to the gifted program. One threshold. No quotas.

 

[IrishLax]

The NYT diligently publishes an article about how 'gifted' programs in schools are usually racist because fewer blacks and Hispanics qualify for them. Who knew white lady teachers could be so wicked? But Broward County, Florida, seems to have overcome this through a "universal" testing program:

The only problem is that the system was not universal. It was a quota system, as the study referenced makes clear (pgs. 1-2):

The NYT articles does not mention this minor detail, of course. Instead it includes this image:

It is more important to the NYT that it advance The Narrative -white people are evil and keeping blacks and Hispanics out of gifted programs- than to report the truth.

Crazy how much of this thread hits near to home for me over the past couple days lol...

I'll preface this by saying that I disagree with a bunch of your stuff, but when it comes to raced based admissions/selection for children in public schools I have a lot of first hand experience.

My high school that I mentioned earlier is like 65% Asian these days. Over the years, it has been a political football both ways and there has been metric tons of controversy... both from people shamelessly pushing The Narrative and people who were pissed off when their kid was left out for a lesser-qualified Black. Pretty much inevitable whenever you have a public high school funded by taxpayers that is perceived by anyone to be "unfair."

When I was in school, I think it was like 50% White, 40% Asian, 8%ish Hispanic/Latino (fun fact: they "reclassified" me during my junior year once they found out my dad was Latino... thanks mom for all the #WhitePrivilege genes, life would be so rough without them or something, right? That's how it goes? Am I acknowledging my privilege correctly? Or do I only have half privilege and like a quarter privilege when I tan up?)...

...and 2%ish Black. As you can imagine, this doesn't fit the demographics of the DC area at all, so everyone was looking for a PC way to blame the selection process or whatever. They couldn't just accept that maybe Asian parents were drilling their kids to be better at math and science, and that maybe affluent Whites coming from high-achieving, high-intelligence, highly-educated parents accounted for a disproportionate amount of the high IQ genes for the area.

So what they started doing is letting in every Black student that made the first cut, and not putting them through the rest of the selection process. That made my class the most diverse in school history at like 13 total Black students out of 400+. Yay? And then that led to lawsuits, op-eds in the paper, etc. Fun times. Must've been really great for for all of Black peers to walk around every day with people questioning whether or not they "deserved" to be there... which is a very sad byproduct of any sort of special treatment measure. Some people think you're a charity case, even if you 100% earned it on merit.

Bonus exercise: given the above and nothing else, can you guess which sports we were good at? And which ones we weren't?

Also: Koreans are the most racist people you will ever meet.

 

[IrishLax]

This is not politically correct: https://jamaicaponder.wordpress.com/2016/04/06/drinking-games/

From the uber liberal town of Princeton, NJ that once tried to ban the Republican party... I give you Alcoholocaust:

 

[NDgradstudent]

I get it, you hate people that don't look like you, and you are desperate to #MakeAmericaWhiteAgain, but seriously, how badly do you hate people of color?

I'll have to ask my Mexican buddy I'm about to get trashed with!

 

[NDinL.A.]

I'll have to ask my Mexican buddy I'm about to get trashed with!

Oh, you're THAAAAAAT guy!

"No no no, ignore what I've been saying. I'm totally not racist - I have a Mexican friend!"

 

[GoldenDome]

I'll have to ask my Mexican buddy I'm about to get trashed with!

Is Donald Sterling and his negro GF going to be there too? And Magic Johnson too?

And since this is the anti political correctness thread, I feel it is apt to use negro is this context, thanks enablers.

And that Korean comment made by that other poster, I am not even going to address such an intellectually dishonest statement.

 

[phgreek]

The NYT diligently publishes an article about how 'gifted' programs in schools are usually racist because fewer blacks and Hispanics qualify for them. Who knew white lady teachers could be so wicked? But Broward County, Florida, seems to have overcome this through a "universal" testing program:



The only problem is that the system was not universal. It was a quota system, as the study referenced makes clear (pgs. 1-2):



The NYT articles does not mention this minor detail, of course. Instead it includes this image:

It is more important to the NYT that it advance The Narrative -white people are evil and keeping blacks and Hispanics out of gifted programs- than to report the truth.

I agree with disdain for quotas...and So does the SCOTUS. Further, re: the NYT...the only people who will lament its final collapse will be bird owners, and people storing fragile keepsakes.

However, I see this study as what we want...

Why?

Well they did use a referral process that included lesser requirements for underprivileged kids, as you cited. (like a 115 vs 130?). However, it appears the final arbiter of admission to the program was still standard IQ testing scores. Further the referral process did not have limits wherein a privileged kid scoring well enough was denied a referral because more underprivileged kids hit the lower referral water mark. ie none of the privileged kids got left out by reaching for more underprivileged kids.

I think this program meets the spirit of what John F. Kennedy intended, in that it shows efforts to find qualified people, but does not result in a quota...ie forced representation by lowering standards. If I'm reading this study correctly this is a model for how to meet equal opportunity intent. Despite the NYT foolishness, this makes me happy.

 

[BGIF]

Oh the irony

Oh the irony

I don't like the author's tone in the article, but the subject matter is certainly pertinent to this topic:

Sorority ditches Kentucky Derby party over racial connotations | Fox News

Dartmouth College Sorority Cancels ‘Racist’ Kentucky Derby-Themed Party — See What They Replaced it With | TheBlaze.com

Apr. 8, 2016 2:32pm Tré Goins-Phillips

Kappa Delta Epsilon’s annual Kentucky Derby-themed party at Dartmouth College has been dubbed racist, so it has been cancelled.

The replacement theme: Woodstock.

The Kentucky Derby-style celebration, which was condemned by Black Lives Matter activists last year, gave students the opportunity to dress to the nines and sip on Mint Juleps, as if they were going to the infamous races but without having to actually travel to the Churchill Downs.

According to the school’s newspaper, The Dartmouth, sororities like KDE are “part of the problem,” and to host such an event is both racist and elitist, so it had to go.

After speaking with many of last year’s protesters, KDE vice president Nikol Oydancich said the sorority voted by a 96-to-4-percent margin to switch the party’s theme in order to eliminate its “racial connotations.”

“[It is] related to pre-war southern culture,” she said of the theme. “Derby was a party that had the power to upset a lot of our classmates.”

However, that is not exactly true. The Kentucky Derby was not instituted until 10 years after the end of the Civil War. In fact, the sport was dominated by black jockeys from its founding until 1904, when African-Americans were banned from the event.

But, nevertheless, the new theme will be Woodstock, which Oydancich says was “overwhelmingly” supported because it is “more related to ideas of peace, music and love associated with its namesake festival.”

Ironically, Woodstock, the 1969 festival known for its abundance of alcohol, will not receive the same treatment later this spring when the Dartmouth sorority hosts its party because the KDE is currently under social prohibition, so they are alcohol-free.

Instead of trying to eradicate history, BLM and KDE had an opportunity to incorporate a celebration of black history into a social event. Some 13 of the first 15 winning jockeys at the Kentucky Derby were black men but by 1904 black jockeys were banned from competition at most of the major tracks in the nation. They have since returned.

 

[CoachB]

It's very simple: I support one standard for everyone. No lowering of standards for the gifted program so that more blacks and Hispanics get in, no lowering of standards for the Marines so more women can get in, etc. That is 'equal opportunity.'

Have everyone take a test, without their name or race attached to it, and set some threshold score above which any student is admitted to the gifted program. One threshold. No quotas.

I agree with this. I don't claim to be incredibly knowledgeable on the topic. It seems to be this would be the most fair way to do things. It seems to be the most qualified for something should get what they are applying for, regardless of race, gender, or anything else. However, I am a white male, so I am sure there are issues that others have felt personally in which I never have. I do, however, teach in a public school and I teach some honors classes. Race and gender have absolutely nothing to do with whoever gets into the honors classes. I do have an issue with people who just assume most places cater to white privilege. I have never seen it, and in my experiences I have never seen a person not get a position based on race or gender. However, those are just my personal experiences. I know it happens sometimes and I know some people are racist, just don't think as many people are as some would like us to believe. Just my two cents.

 

[Bogtrotter07]

The NYT diligently publishes an article about how 'gifted' programs in schools are usually racist because fewer blacks and Hispanics qualify for them. Who knew white lady teachers could be so wicked? But Broward County, Florida, seems to have overcome this through a "universal" testing program:



The only problem is that the system was not universal. It was a quota system, as the study referenced makes clear (pgs. 1-2):



The NYT articles does not mention this minor detail, of course. Instead it includes this image:

It is more important to the NYT that it advance The Narrative -white people are evil and keeping blacks and Hispanics out of gifted programs- than to report the truth.

Of all the preposterous assumptions of humanity over humanity, nothing exceeds most of the criticisms made on the habits of the poor by the well-housed, well-warmed, and well-fed.

Herman Melville

Couldn't have said it better myself, thanks Ahab!

 

[NDgradstudent]

Couldn't have said it better myself, thanks Ahab!

The view among the IE Progressive Party seems to be: quotas today, quotas tomorrow, quotas forever!

Also, if being clothed and housed is the issue, then why not have income-based affirmative action? Race-based affirmative action tends to benefit the wealthiest people within each group. Race is not a simple proxy for poverty in these cases.

As IrishLax described above, these quota systems leads to resentment among many people who do not get the benefits, regardless of their race:

When I was in school, I think it was like 50% White, 40% Asian, 8%ish Hispanic/Latino (fun fact: they "reclassified" me during my junior year once they found out my dad was Latino... thanks mom for all the #WhitePrivilege genes, life would be so rough without them or something, right? That's how it goes? Am I acknowledging my privilege correctly? Or do I only have half privilege and like a quarter privilege when I tan up?)...

...and 2%ish Black. As you can imagine, this doesn't fit the demographics of the DC area at all, so everyone was looking for a PC way to blame the selection process or whatever. They couldn't just accept that maybe Asian parents were drilling their kids to be better at math and science, and that maybe affluent Whites coming from high-achieving, high-intelligence, highly-educated parents accounted for a disproportionate amount of the high IQ genes for the area.

So what they started doing is letting in every Black student that made the first cut, and not putting them through the rest of the selection process. That made my class the most diverse in school history at like 13 total Black students out of 400+. Yay? And then that led to lawsuits, op-eds in the paper, etc. Fun times. Must've been really great for for all of Black peers to walk around every day with people questioning whether or not they "deserved" to be there... which is a very sad byproduct of any sort of special treatment measure. Some people think you're a charity case, even if you 100% earned it on merit.

This is the other problem. Black students at Caltech know that they deserve to be there because of their intellectual ability, not because of their race.

 

[TheOneWhoKnocks]

Why does ndinla hate white people so much

 

[bkess8]

Awesome, what community are you in?

I'm in the SWO community but I am a 6110 Deck Limited Duty Officer. I'm currently stationed on the USS Pearl Harbor (LSD-52) as the Ship's Bos'n.

 

[NDinL.A.]

Why does ndinla hate white people so much

LOL - using ndgradstudent's ridiculous logic, I CAN'T hate white people because my wife is white (and my kids are therefore mixed with Irish and German blood). Therefore, it's impossible for me to be racist!

But seriously, I don't hate white people AT ALL, but I do hate racists (from any side), and the #MakeAmericaWhiteAgain movement that ndgrad is a part of makes me sick. Those idiots are dividing this country while foolishly believing that Donald the Dumbass is trying to unite it.

 

[NDinL.A.]

It's very simple: I support one standard for everyone. No lowering of standards for the gifted program so that more blacks and Hispanics get in, no lowering of standards for the Marines so more women can get in, etc. That is 'equal opportunity.'

Have everyone take a test, without their name or race attached to it, and set some threshold score above which any student is admitted to the gifted program. One threshold. No quotas.

I would LOVE that. First, take away the institutional racism that you are completely blind to, give everyone an equal opportunity, and then we can finally be done with affirmative action.

I'm wasting my breath here because you obviously have never dealt with any racism (other than your own towards others), you've never stepped foot in a ghetto or a barrio, and you have zero empathy for the plight of people that have had to overcome more than you could ever imagine.

The truth is, there shouldn't be quotas, but it behooves universities, companies and society as a whole to not only diversify but give chances to EVERYONE. Universities absolutely should give opportunities to students for underprivileged backgrounds who can HANDLE the rigors of said university. If that means their transcripts aren't as strong, so be it. That person most likely hasn't had top tutors helping them out, 2 loving parents giving them everything they need including simple things like 3 meals a day, etc etc, but yet they have persevered through things you can't imagine (including racism) to put themselves in a position to even be considered for a top university. I would absolutely admit/hire that person over someone with perhaps a stronger overall resume but has never had to scratch and claw their way through truly tough times. I've seen these type of applicants transform classrooms and offices for the better.

There has to be a balance. Quotas are not good, but your system completely ignores too much that still goes on today and would Trump this country like we haven't been Trumped since the 50's. No thanks.

 

[Irish YJ]

LOL - using ndgradstudent's ridiculous logic, I CAN'T hate white people because my wife is white (and my kids are therefore mixed with Irish and German blood). Therefore, it's impossible for me to be racist!

But seriously, I don't hate white people AT ALL, but I do hate racists (from any side), and the #MakeAmericaWhiteAgain movement that ndgrad is a part of makes me sick. Those idiots are dividing this country while foolishly believing that Donald the Dumbass is trying to unite it.

Then by that logic, the Don can't hate immigrants either lol

 

[GoldenDome]

Then by that logic, the Don can't hate immigrants either lol

Your logic is unfounded in that he/she hypothetically CAN be racist of any immigrant group outside his/her own? A more apt argument would be to bring up in-group racism such as black on black or hispanic on hispanic racism which exists today.

 

[Irish YJ]

Your logic is unfounded in that he/she hypothetically CAN be racist of any immigrant group outside his/her own? A more apt argument would be to bring up in-group racism such as black on black or hispanic on hispanic racism which exists today.

should have cap'd and bolded the LOL...

and yes, black on black racism has existed since Africans enslaved and sold their own.

 

[NDgradstudent]

LOL - using ndgradstudent's ridiculous logic, I CAN'T hate white people because my wife is white (and my kids are therefore mixed with Irish and German blood). Therefore, it's impossible for me to be racist!

But seriously, I don't hate white people AT ALL, but I do hate racists (from any side), and the #MakeAmericaWhiteAgain movement that ndgrad is a part of makes me sick. Those idiots are dividing this country while foolishly believing that Donald the Dumbass is trying to unite it.

Whatever. I learned long ago there is no point arguing that you are not racist with people who desperately want you to be racist because they haven't got any good replies to your arguments.

You can either deny or concede the charge of racism: if you deny it, you are foolish because everyone (who is white) is racist! So you are ignorant. If you affirm it, well, you've just admitted you are racist. So there is no winning, which is the point.

I might as well deny that a fairy is dancing inside my lungs.

I'm wasting my breath here because you obviously have never dealt with any racism (other than your own towards others), you've never stepped foot in a ghetto or a barrio, and you have zero empathy for the plight of people that have had to overcome more than you could ever imagine.

In fact, I have lived in "ghettos" and taught in effectively all-black/Hispanic schools.

The truth is, there shouldn't be quotas, but it behooves universities, companies and society as a whole to not only diversify but give chances to EVERYONE. Universities absolutely should give opportunities to students for underprivileged backgrounds who can HANDLE the rigors of said university. If that means their transcripts aren't as strong, so be it. That person most likely hasn't had top tutors helping them out, 2 loving parents giving them everything they need including simple things like 3 meals a day, etc etc, but yet they have persevered through things you can't imagine (including racism) to put themselves in a position to even be considered for a top university. I would absolutely admit/hire that person over someone with perhaps a stronger overall resume but has never had to scratch and claw their way through truly tough times. I've seen these type of applicants transform classrooms and offices for the better.

There has to be a balance. Quotas are not good, but your system completely ignores too much that still goes on today and would Trump this country like we haven't been Trumped since the 50's. No thanks.

We'll just have to agree to disagree. To summarize my case:

(1) I don't think that race-based affirmative action helps who it is supposed to help: that is, it tends to help the wealthiest and least-disadvantaged within different racial groups, as Tom Sowell and others have argued.

(2) I don't think race-based affirmative action helps who it is supposed to help: that is, it can have damaging effects on its supposed beneficiaries, as Richard Sander has argued with regard to law school admission.

(3) Race-based affirmative is racial discrimination, which I am against. And it does not simply hurt 'privileged' whites- it mainly hurts Asians and poorer whites. It is a corrupt, destructive racket.

 

[NDinL.A.]

Whatever. I learned long ago there is no point arguing that you are not racist with people who desperately want you to be racist because they haven't got any good replies to your arguments.

You can either deny or concede the charge of racism: if you deny it, you are foolish because everyone (who is white) is racist! So you are ignorant. If you affirm it, well, you've just admitted you are racist. So there is no winning, which is the point.

I might as well deny that a fairy is dancing inside my lungs.

Hahahaha, playing the victim card again. You poor thing. It was YOUR words that have been used against you, not anything else. Calling Blacks and Hispanics "fashionable minorities", as if they LOVE being discriminated against (even though you strangely deny that it happens) is a friggin' joke and indicative of your mindset. It's why you so love the #MakeAmericaWhiteAgain movement. That is what is sickening about your POV - not the quotas and all the other stuff.

In fact, I have lived in "ghettos" and taught in effectively all-black/Hispanic schools.

LOL!!!!!! Yeah, and I have a fairy dancing inside my lungs.

 

[CoachB]

I would LOVE that. First, take away the institutional racism that you are completely blind to, give everyone an equal opportunity, and then we can finally be done with affirmative action.

I'm wasting my breath here because you obviously have never dealt with any racism (other than your own towards others), you've never stepped foot in a ghetto or a barrio, and you have zero empathy for the plight of people that have had to overcome more than you could ever imagine.

The truth is, there shouldn't be quotas, but it behooves universities, companies and society as a whole to not only diversify but give chances to EVERYONE. Universities absolutely should give opportunities to students for underprivileged backgrounds who can HANDLE the rigors of said university. If that means their transcripts aren't as strong, so be it. That person most likely hasn't had top tutors helping them out, 2 loving parents giving them everything they need including simple things like 3 meals a day, etc etc, but yet they have persevered through things you can't imagine (including racism) to put themselves in a position to even be considered for a top university. I would absolutely admit/hire that person over someone with perhaps a stronger overall resume but has never had to scratch and claw their way through truly tough times. I've seen these type of applicants transform classrooms and offices for the better.

There has to be a balance. Quotas are not good, but your system completely ignores too much that still goes on today and would Trump this country like we haven't been Trumped since the 50's. No thanks.

Good point. I am inclined to agree with you. It would be nice if you could separate it from race and make it about "at risk" kids. However, I don't know how you would do that. There are many amazing "diamond in the rough" kids that I have taught that were from all races and managed to overcome some horrible circumstances. I do strongly agree that these diamonds in the rough should be given every opportunity to break the sometimes generational circle that their families have become entrenched in.

 

[NDgradstudent]

I love how the UND hockey fans wear Fighting Sioux attire. Sioux Sioux Sioux Sioux Sioux Sioux Sioux Sioux Sioux Sioux Sioux Sioux

 

[Bishop2b5]

Hahahaha, playing the victim card again. You poor thing. It was YOUR words that have been used against you, not anything else. Calling Blacks and Hispanics "fashionable minorities", as if they LOVE being discriminated against (even though you strangely deny that it happens) is a friggin' joke and indicative of your mindset. It's why you so love the #MakeAmericaWhiteAgain movement. That is what is sickening about your POV - not the quotas and all the other stuff.


LOL!!!!!! Yeah, and I have a fairy dancing inside my lungs.

I don't think "fashionable minorities" means what you think it does. It has nothing to do with them loving being discriminated against. It means minorities that are fashionable within the ultra left and/or PC crowd to support and fight for. There are countless minority groups whose rights aren't always equally protected. Some are more fashionable in todays political climate to take up for and treat favorably than others. Perhaps a more accurate term would be "favored minorities."

 

[Bishop2b5]

I love how the UND hockey fans wear Fighting Sioux attire. Sioux Sioux Sioux Sioux Sioux Sioux Sioux Sioux Sioux Sioux Sioux Sioux

It's interesting that some Native American groups are offended by sports teams being named after them, while others find it a compliment, are proud of it, and want it to continue.

 

[BeauBenken]

IU Students Fear KKK Member Robed and On Campus, Really Just a Dominican Friar

Everyone mistook a priest for a KKK member

Lol