Off-topic posts formerly found in recruiting profiles

[dshans]

Hand basket, hand bucket or buck-basket, we're totin' a sh¡t-load of "compost" around this thread in a big ol' "wheelbarrah."

 

[Bogtrotter07]

Why remove what little artistic repartee that is washed up upon the soft shores of this site?

 

[Cackalacky]

Why remove what little artistic repartee that is washed up upon the soft shores of this site?

 

[Bogtrotter07]

Aw, f u c k!

 

[Cackalacky]

They spilled our machiatto......

 

[dshans]

I think a little Monday morning silliness is in order.... Lets tally a count, what say thee?

"To be, or not to be: that is the question:
Whether 'tis nobler in the mind to suffer
The slings and arrows of outrageous fortune,
Or to take arms against a sea of troubles,
And by opposing end them?"

Yadda, yadda, yadda ... I shan't include the rest of the passage.

Word play is my game,
Whimsey is my name.

Eddie the V appears to me a fine specimen. A fine Notre Dame Man and a helluva footballer.

What thread is this???



Dammit!

 

[Cackalacky]

I don't know.... its kind of like the island of misfit toys.... a shadow world of limboed posts...

 

[dshans]

When all is said and done, this is a forum by and of a group of people who feel or have a connection to Notre Dame. Educated and aware smart-assery (there – I've coined a phrase) SHOULD be a part of discourse among a group affiliating itself with an institution that claims a certain status as an institution of higher learning. I may never understand the intricate ins and outs of football (or basketball, rugby, lacrosse, etc.) but I enjoy and appreciate the posts of those who do. Though it's highly likely that I am wrong, I like to think that recruits (and their families) who might stumble upon IE enjoy the occasional "snotty" diversion.

Hell, I can leave untouched any number of spelling/grammar missteps and still get credit/blame when someone else steps up and points a finger (cursor?) at me. I can take it and view it as a badge of honor.

Scroll past the off-topic commentary. It's rarely more of a bother than the numerous "this's," "^'s" and "+1000's," etc.

 

[dshans]

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Bump.

Whatever.

 

[Jebediah Springfield]

When all is said and done, this is a forum by and of a group of people who feel or have a connection to Notre Dame. Educated and aware smart-assery (there – I've coined a phrase) SHOULD be a part of discourse among a group affiliating itself with an institution that claims a certain status as an institution of higher learning. I may never understand the intricate ins and outs of football (or basketball, rugby, lacrosse, etc.) but I enjoy and appreciate the posts of those who do. Though it's highly likely that I am wrong, I like to think that recruits (and their families) who might stumble upon IE enjoy the occasional "snotty" diversion.

Hell, I can leave untouched any number of spelling/grammar missteps and still get credit/blame when someone else steps up and points a finger (cursor?) at me. I can take it and view it as a badge of honor.

Scroll past the off-topic commentary. It's rarely more of a bother than the numerous "this's," "^'s" and "+1000's," etc.

This ^ +100

 

[dshans]

While I'm here in the land of banished posts:

Irishlax – I reacted to your boasting of "My first action as a Mod" or some such thing in a recruit's thread since you had every opportunity to delete NDinL.A.'s post and thread but chose not to do so. You made no mention of just what letter of what law was in jeopardy. NDinL.A.'s post was clearly a violation of IE "laws" but was allowed to stand. The thread was closed by the time I decided it was worth the bother to respond. My only real option was to respond to your post in a recruit's thread. "Take it to PM" is bullsh¡t when different levels of compliance and consequence are applied capriciously.

The two times I've been given "time-outs/vacations" the removal of my posts and banishment were swift and damn near simultaneous. The man knew his post was malicious and ban-worthy. The mealy mouthed reactions by mods (and J Pham) were clearly preferential equivocation.

I have an image of you as a Domer wandering around the Los Angeles International Airport in full ND regalia. LAX was an airport code to me long before it was an abbreviation for lacrosse.

Sleep well.

 

[t3hjc]

No one attacked TP personally. I stated I liked the guy and that he's a valuable member of the board. What I criticized is the way we take his credibility as infallibility. He is credible. As I said, he's right far more often than he is not. And when he is correct, we give him all the glory. The issue is that when he's wrong, like with McDermott, we're not even allowed to point it out. It gets completely whitewashed and that feeds into the narrative that everything TP posts is gospel. It's not, but it's gotten to the point where if you point out an instance where he is wrong, someone comes up with a poorly constructed excuse("maybe he was eating lucky charms") or someone points out that TP's tweet was too vague to warrant blame. That's the whole point behind the tweets and the hints, that they're vague enough for him to get credit for when the news is positive and vague enough to be able to shirk culpability when it's bad information. All I'm saying is there's something fundamentally wrong with the concept of being able to heap endless praise on TP on this board when he's right, but not being able to point out on this board an instance where he's wrong.

 

[t3hjc]

Beau deletes a completely legitimate, rational, thought out post, but laments being compared to Gestapo.

 

[Whiskeyjack]

Beau deletes a completely legitimate, rational, thought out post, but laments being compared to Gestapo.

I deleted it, because it was in response to me, and I had read it.

Since it's clear that this needs to be discussed further, I'll move this to its own thread.

 

[BeauBenken]

No one attacked TP personally. I stated I liked the guy and that he's a valuable member of the board. What I criticized is the way we take his credibility as infallibility. He is credible. As I said, he's right far more often than he is not. And when he is correct, we give him all the glory. The issue is that when he's wrong, like with McDermott, we're not even allowed to point it out. It gets completely whitewashed and that feeds into the narrative that everything TP posts is gospel. It's not, but it's gotten to the point where if you point out an instance where he is wrong, someone comes up with a poorly constructed excuse("maybe he was eating lucky charms") or someone points out that TP's tweet was too vague to warrant blame. That's the whole point behind the tweets and the hints, that they're vague enough for him to get credit for when the news is positive and vague enough to be able to shirk culpability when it's bad information. All I'm saying is there's something fundamentally wrong with the concept of being able to heap endless praise on TP on this board when he's right, but not being able to point out on this board an instance where he's wrong.

The thing is that TP never comes on the board looking for praise, yet you act like that's what happens so often.

You know what happens when people think TP is right? Nothing.

You know what happens when people think TP is wrong? An uprising.

 

[koonja]

The thing is that TP never comes on the board looking for praise, yet you act like that's what happens so often.

You know what happens when people think TP is right? Nothing.

You know what happens when people think TP is wrong? An uprising.

That's not true. He gets a lot of love on here when he's right, especially when it's about ND recruiting news.

Only to be suffocated by the Beau-rocrats .

 

[greyhammer90]

No one attacked TP personally. I stated I liked the guy and that he's a valuable member of the board. What I criticized is the way we take his credibility as infallibility. He is credible. As I said, he's right far more often than he is not. And when he is correct, we give him all the glory. The issue is that when he's wrong, like with McDermott, we're not even allowed to point it out. It gets completely whitewashed and that feeds into the narrative that everything TP posts is gospel. It's not, but it's gotten to the point where if you point out an instance where he is wrong, someone comes up with a poorly constructed excuse("maybe he was eating lucky charms") or someone points out that TP's tweet was too vague to warrant blame. That's the whole point behind the tweets and the hints, that they're vague enough for him to get credit for when the news is positive and vague enough to be able to shirk culpability when it's bad information. All I'm saying is there's something fundamentally wrong with the concept of being able to heap endless praise on TP on this board when he's right, but not being able to point out on this board an instance where he's wrong.

Get ready...

 

[Whiskeyjack]

No one attacked TP personally. I stated I liked the guy and that he's a valuable member of the board. What I criticized is the way we take his credibility as infallibility. He is credible. As I said, he's right far more often than he is not. And when he is correct, we give him all the glory. The issue is that when he's wrong, like with McDermott, we're not even allowed to point it out. It gets completely whitewashed and that feeds into the narrative that everything TP posts is gospel. It's not, but it's gotten to the point where if you point out an instance where he is wrong, someone comes up with a poorly constructed excuse("maybe he was eating lucky charms") or someone points out that TP's tweet was too vague to warrant blame. That's the whole point behind the tweets and the hints, that they're vague enough for him to get credit for when the news is positive and vague enough to be able to shirk culpability when it's bad information. All I'm saying is there's something fundamentally wrong with the concept of being able to heap endless praise on TP on this board when he's right, but not being able to point out on this board an instance where he's wrong.

Posts got deleted because: (1) they were in a recruit's thread; (2) it wasn't clear that TP's tweet* was a prediction at all; and (3) TP is a polarizing figure around here.

To clarify my earlier (and now deleted) post, his status as an insider does not entitle to him special protection from the mods. I only mentioned his insider status to indicate that he's a contributing member of the board, and is therefore entitled to the same respect that all of our regulars receive.

Respectful criticism of TP is entirely valid. His detractors feel he's intentionally cryptic so he can bask in the glory of reporting good news without ever having to own up to being wrong; his defenders argue that he has to be cryptic or his sources will cut him off. Both are reasonable stances, and can be expressed on IE in the appropriate forum.

Apologies if the thread cleanup came off as draconian. Off-topic posts on a polarizing subject in a recruit's thread are gonna get nuked in a hurry.

*The "prediction" in question wasn't even posted on IE.

 

[greyhammer90]

Posts got deleted because: (1) they were in a recruit's thread; (2) it wasn't clear that TP's tweet was a prediction at all; and (3) TP is a polarizing figure around here.

To clarify my earlier (and now deleted) post, his status as an insider does not entitle to him special protection from the mods. I only mentioned his insider status to indicate that he's a contributing member of the board, and is therefore entitled to same respect that all of our regulars receive.

Respectful criticism of TP is entirely valid. His detractors feel he's intentionally cryptic so he can bask in the glory for reporting good news without ever having to own up to being wrong; his defenders argue that he has to be cryptic or his sources will cut him off. Both are reasonable stances, and can be expressed on IE in the appropriate forum.

Apologies if the thread cleanup came off as draconian. Off-topic posts on a polarizing subject in a recruit's thread are gonna get nuked in a hurry.

This. This is a reasonable mod.

 

[BeauBenken]

That's not true. He gets a lot of love on here when he's right, especially when it's about ND recruiting news.

Only to be suffocated by the Beau-rocrats .

Even if this is true, (I don't think it is because everyone typically makes up their own mind on what they think a recruit is going to do) it's not like you ever see TP asking for it.

 

[BeauBenken]

This. This is a reasonable mod.

He's better at those big posts than me. Stinking lawyers...

 

[Whiskeyjack]

This. This is a reasonable mod.

 

[Whiskeyjack]

He's better at those big posts than me. Stinking lawyers...

You bag 'em, I tag 'em.

 

[STLDomer]

Even if this is true, (I don't think it is because everyone typically makes up their own mind on what they think a recruit is going to do) it's not like you ever see TP asking for it.

He used to, but he doesn't anymore.

His posse does though

 

[koonja]

Even if this is true, (I don't think it is because everyone typically makes up their own mind on what they think a recruit is going to do) it's not like you ever see TP asking for it.

But what difference does it make? The topic isn't whether or not TP asks for praise; it's about other poster's reactions to his vague predictions. TP does not ask for praise or criticism.

Posters are saying that they'll praise him when he's right, question him when he's wrong. I'm no mod, but seems reasonable to me.

You guys can delete this if you want, but let's talk about the elephant in the room. Posters like like TP are going to get protection on here because they're more valuable than, say, a 'kuehnja'. Life is a popularity contest, and most on here need to understand that. When we want to criticize TP, we need to do it as respectful as possible. Life's not always completely fair, but if you're clever, you can voice your dissatisfaction without getting stuff deleted.

 

[BeauBenken]

He used to, but he doesn't anymore.

His posse does though

I never see these people. I must be good at ignoring them, but so every poster here understands, I can totally see how that could be annoying.

 

[STLDomer]

I never see these people. I must be good at ignoring them, but so every poster here understands, I can totally see how that could be annoying.

There's only 1 maybe 2 of the normal posters that I would categorize that way.

Then there's posters that usually only post when we get a commit, which really isn't annoying.

There are specifically 3 posters that most ppl are familiar with that for the most part only come on here to defend TP, that is what is annoying.

 

[Whiskeyjack]

You guys can delete this if you want, but let's talk about the elephant in the room. Posters like like TP are going to get protection on here because they're more valuable than, say, a 'kuehnja'. Life is a popularity contest, and most on here need to understand that. When we want to criticize TP, we need to do it as respectful as possible. Life's not always completely fair, but if you're clever, you can voice your dissatisfaction without getting stuff deleted.

I can't speak for the other mods, but that's not my approach. You both are very positive contributors to the community, and are entitled to equal protection.

Though I'm not sure how it might happen, if you somehow became a polarizing figure around here but maintained your status as a respectful and positive contributor, I'd be equally zealous in stamping out "F*CK JAKE KUEHN" posts.

 

[greyhammer90]

I never see these people. I must be good at ignoring them, but so every poster here understands, I can totally see how that could be annoying.

You must be f**king wizard to ignore them. I have bigger issues with them than I ever have with TP. You said it yourself, when people post negative things about TP, things usually get personal really fast. Why is that?

Anyone remember the "TP brings more clicks to this site than anyone" guy? Holy hell that was a fun post to mock.

 

[greyhammer90]

I LOVE JAKE KUEHN