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Booker has been a great recruiter but his coaching of the TEs and ST so far has been.... interesting.
 

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#NotreDame HC Brian Kelly on 2 No. 2s on FG: "It was a coaching mistake. ... We got to do a better job. An oversight that can't happen."
 

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This University was built on several pillars of values. One of those is forgiveness. If you want to disregard this value because of a personal vendetta, then I am not going to try to stop you. But I believe that it would be bad juju. We build credits in this life based on how you treat people. Pat lost some credits with some of you and I get that. What I don't get is why some of you are so quick to lose credits for yourself by not being strong enough to forgive.

The easy way out is to bash Pat for being a d!ck. The hard thing is to forgive. He made his peace, now its time for some of you to make your own.

Well said.
 

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#NotreDame HC Brian Kelly: "I do know this: We'll battle you at home, we'll protect our turf, we'll find a way to win."


Awesome
 

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I think Special Teams would be better if ND had more depth.

I know this, and Kelly has said this. But that is two times now we have had guys out there with the same number. Booker got an ear full last week at Oklahoma when he sent Niklas in late on a play and we had to burn a TO. This is his first year so obviously he is learning on the joband will make mistakes. I think he will end up being a solid coach.
 

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Booker has been a great recruiter but his coaching of the TEs and ST so far has been.... interesting.

Give him a little time.

I was not impressed with Elston these first two years, but his DL might be the best unit on the defense.

Agreed. I don't think anybody should be calling for his head just yet.

Of course we don't really know what goes on Sunday through Friday, but he's had 2 quite visible coaching gaffs with personnel the past 2 weeks during games. Some of that I think can be chalked up to his lack of experience as being in charge of a position. He should (as anyone should) improve in some gameday nuances.

But I think GITF is spot on-- coaching of TE's and ST's have been interesting.
 

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Luck of the Irish!!!

This is an interesting topic, as I know it has been brought up on TV and elsewhere that ND did get very lucky with that missed FG, but on the flip side, Pitt was also lucky that Wood fumbled as he was going into the endzone for the winning TD in overtime, so it goes both ways. If he holds onto the ball and scores there as he would 99/100 times, Pitt doesn'tt even get that FG attempt.
 

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Luck of the Irish!!!

This is an interesting topic, as I know it has been brought up on TV and elsewhere that ND did get very lucky with that missed FG, but on the flip side, Pitt was also lucky that Wood fumbled as he was going into the endzone for the winning TD in overtime, so it goes both ways. If he holds onto the ball and scores there as he would 99/100 times, Pitt doesn'tt even get that FG attempt.

If Cierre scores, Pitt could score a TD to tie. Game wouldn't be over
 

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If Cierre scores, Pitt could score a TD to tie. Game wouldn't be over

My bad, you're right. Minor details ;) Pitt had some luck go their way though not just ND, that was my overall point. It sometimes gets overly stressed in favor of the winning team and ND specifically IMO as a way to justify one's opinion of "who should've really won the game".
 

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I made the mistake of reading an article on foxsports and facebook. No one will ever respect ND but us...oh well :)
 

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Took my son (now 15 yrs old) to the game. It was just his second game he's been to and both have gone into 3 OT's. The previous game was against Navy 5 years ago where we lost in 3 OT's. Thank God that this one turned out different. We had a blast. Couldn't believe how many people were leaving after Golson's interception. SMH
 
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ND had 34 first downs (WOW!) to Pitt's 14.

ND had 522 yards to Pitt's 308.

Didn't realize we dominated them so much. Sounds like the USF game plus a 'W'.
 

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Maybe this was discussed already but it looked like Chryst and Kelly had some words after the game. Definitely not the normal midfield handshake. Not saying it was or wasn't bad. Just wondering if anyone else noticed and have heard anything.
 

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This talk of ND being lucky because the Pitt kicker missed the field goal--- hmmmm.... the game would have been long over had not Pitt had the "luck" of Brindza missing BOTH a field goal and an extra point. Who was "lucky" to even be in the OT?
 

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This talk of ND being lucky because the Pitt kicker missed the field goal--- hmmmm.... the game would have been long over had not Pitt had the "luck" of Brindza missing BOTH a field goal and an extra point. Who was "lucky" to even be in the OT?

Or the best nose tackle in the country still recovering from the flu.
 

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This talk of ND being lucky because the Pitt kicker missed the field goal--- hmmmm.... the game would have been long over had not Pitt had the "luck" of Brindza missing BOTH a field goal and an extra point. Who was "lucky" to even be in the OT?

How about lucky not being called for the same number on the field on the missed OT FG? Or that lucky pass interference call that wasn't PI by a mile. Luck goes both ways. We didnt get any of it last year, we are getting it all in spades this year.
 

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Or the "luck" of Notre Dame fumbling on the way into the end zone. Or throwing a late interception in the end zone only to have Pitt's coach call 4 straight pass when he should have been trying to run out the clock. Lots of "luck" to go around.
 

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How about lucky not being called for the same number on the field on the missed OT FG? Or that lucky pass interference call that wasn't PI by a mile. Luck goes both ways. We didnt get any of it last year, we are getting it all in spades this year.

It defiantly wasn't PI, but the Pitt corner did give Eifert a blow to the head when he was trying to get off the line and run his route.

Is anyone positive that the blow to the head wasn't what was called?
 

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Has anyone mentioned the Pitt fumble that was ruled an incomplete pass? It was still 10-6, Pitt put up a TD a few plays later... The play was not challenged/reviewed but should have been IMO. Looked like possession and then a fumble to me.
 

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No factual info here, just opinion, but Manti could have had the flu as well. Lou and Manti were the only 2 starters I didn't see on the player walk
 

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i know that last pi call was ticky tack, but their corners were abusing eifert all day and it wasn't called. so i think it turned out to be a little justice in the end.

but yeah, we gift wrapped that game for pitt multiple times and they refused to take it.
 

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It defiantly wasn't PI, but the Pitt corner did give Eifert a blow to the head when he was trying to get off the line and run his route.

Is anyone positive that the blow to the head wasn't what was called?

PI was called on the field. The replay was shown on TV and the announcers noted they saw nothing to justify a PI flag.

The official Play By Play at UND.com lists "Penalty Pass Interference by Williams, K".

A blow to the head at the line would not get a PI call. It's a personal foul AND the ball wasn't in the air.
 

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Has anyone mentioned the Pitt fumble that was ruled an incomplete pass? It was still 10-6, Pitt put up a TD a few plays later... The play was not challenged/reviewed but should have been IMO. Looked like possession and then a fumble to me.

At the time, I posted fumble in the GameDay thread. I agree with you but we apparently were in the distinct minority.
 

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At the time, I posted fumble in the GameDay thread. I agree with you but we apparently were in the distinct minority.

I still have to go back and watch the game a second time (probably will do that soon - day off and all), but I don't remember being too upset about the call at the time which makes me think that I did NOT think it was a fumble. But things always seems much clearer during the 2nd, 3rd, 4th viewing...
 

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At the time, I posted fumble in the GameDay thread. I agree with you but we apparently were in the distinct minority.

i thought fumble too. he caught it, took two steps and it came out, by our guy punching it out.
 

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i know that last pi call was ticky tack, but their corners were abusing eifert all day and it wasn't called. so i think it turned out to be a little justice in the end.

but yeah, we gift wrapped that game for pitt multiple times and they refused to take it.

Had to leave so I was only able to listen to the radio broadcast for the last half of the third quarter and the fourth. Pinkett said it shouldn't have been called. I read in the paper the next day that Eifert didn't think it was PI either.

Everyone will focus on the duplicate numbers being on the field at the same time because it was the play that decided the game, but the fumble, the no fumble call against Pitt, the missed PAT and every other play in the game had a direct bearing on the outcome. It's just too easy to single out one play during a critical time of the game as the sole reason for a win or loss.
 
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