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How about, while in the process of 'calling the play', the announcer names every recruit in attendance and thanks them for attending the game "on behalf of Coach Sark". Yeah, just a secondary violation (I think), but 'all's fair'
 

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IMO this game has a good chance of determining whether or not we make the playoff. I think there is a 50/50 shot we go into that game 10-1 with our only loss being @ FSU

Long way to go skippy, starting Oct 8th ND plays eight straight average or better D1 teams including the defending champ, the defending Pac12 champ, and USC... Not one of these games will be played in a bubble where one doesn't impact the next, eight, in a row... A lot has to go our way before we start thinking playoffs imo.
 
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I think there is a 50/50 shot we go into that game 10-1 with our only loss being @ FSU

I think there is a <5% chance. Granted, Notre Dame is 2-0 and looks sharp, but you're never as good as you look. ND dummied freakin' Rice and a Michigan team that went 7-6 last year.

The remaining schedule..

vs Purdue
BYE
at Syracuse
vs Stanford
vs North Carolina
at Florida State
at Navy
at Arizona State
vs Northwestern
vs Louisville
at Southern Cal

The bolded are teams sbnation projects to be in bowl games this season. So once the Stanford week arrives Notre Dame will be playing a bowl game basically every week. 50% chance they go 6-0 against teams not named Florida State?

Brian Kelly is 1-3 against Stanford, they deserve a ton of respect. Their offense matches up against Notre Dame's defense pretty damn well, and it's doubtful that they'll commit mistakes like they did against USC going forward.

North Carolina doesn't look good right now, but it's the trap game of the century.

Notre Dame beat Navy by four points last year. They are better than last year. Notre Dame is only 4-3 against them since the program hit the restart button in 2007. Plus this'll be the week after the biggest game of the season, so attention cannot possibly be as sharp. They deserve our respect, and so does...

Arizona State, who was defeated by only three points last year. It's now an away game for the Irish and ASU's offense is kinda absurd. It's also the third away game in a row for the Irish, before heading home for...

Northwestern will be so locked in for this game it's not even funny. They're basically Notre Dame's inferior brother and their coach loathes Notre Dame. Loathes. Hopefully they are a trainwreck by this point, because they're trap game #2 before a match up with...

Louisville, which doesn't seem to have missed a beat from last season and has a coach who is 43-9 in his career at Louisville. Petrino may be an immoral douche, but he's a fantastic football coach armed with a good football team....and a BYE week to prep for the Irish. The same Irish who will have just played tough competition for a ridiculous number of weeks in a row.

I think it's more likely that they're 7-4 than 10-1 going into the Southern Cal game.
 
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5 of our last 8 games are against teams in the Top 21 of the AP Poll. Gonna be tough to 4-1 in those five games, with three of them on the road. That doesn't include UNC (their O still scares me, plus sandwich trap game), Navy (scary still), and Northwestern (not horrible).

I think at this point, 4-0 seems like a lock. Going to be very, very difficult to go 7-1 down the stretch.
 

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I'm not seeing how we sneak into the playoff at 10-2. I think we have to be 11-1 (or better obviously) with a competitive game vs. FSU in their house. We lose another one and I don't think we get the call. I do think we are better than 1/20 shot of making it though, not a favorite but maybe something like 1/8 chance of 11-1 or better to make the playoff.

My renewed optimism is equal parts impressed by our defense and less than impressed with what I have seen from Stanford, USC and FSU. None of those guys out class us IMO.
 

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I'm not seeing how we sneak into the playoff at 10-2. I think we have to be 11-1 (or better obviously) with a competitive game vs. FSU in their house. We lose another one and I don't think we get the call. I do think we are better than 1/20 shot of making it though, not a favorite but maybe something like 1/8 chance of 11-1 or better to make the playoff.

My renewed optimism is equal parts impressed by our defense and less than impressed with what I have seen from Stanford, USC and FSU. None of those guys out class us IMO.

I think we'd be the most deserving of any team at 10-2 but if there are a bunch of 11-1 teams then we're probably on the outside looking in. It'll at least tell us how valued SOS is for the committee. I don't think you can play a tougher schedule, especially if all of our opponents keep winning.

We're likely playing:

  • 3 of the top 4 teams from Pac-12
  • 2 or 3 of the top 5 teams in the ACC
  • the defending national champion
  • and probably what, 8-10 bowl teams?


Dirty, dirty, dirty. Let's hope youthful exuberance carries us through this season.
 

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I'm not seeing how we sneak into the playoff at 10-2. I think we have to be 11-1 (or better obviously) with a competitive game vs. FSU in their house. We lose another one and I don't think we get the call. I do think we are better than 1/20 shot of making it though, not a favorite but maybe something like 1/8 chance of 11-1 or better to make the playoff.

My renewed optimism is equal parts impressed by our defense and less than impressed with what I have seen from Stanford, USC and FSU. None of those guys out class us IMO.

I agree with this. The schedule is daunting, but I feel better about it in week 2 than I did before the season. While I agree with everything in Buster's post, I'm going to drink a tall glass of what NDPhilly is having and look at a schedule that, man for man, only has one team (FSU) with more talent than our team this season.

vs Purdue - We are going to destroy them this weekend in Indy.
BYE
at Syracuse - Syracuse didn't look good in their 2OT win vs. FCS Villanova in week 1. Coming off a bye, there's no real concern other than potentially looking ahead to Stanford.
vs Stanford - Stanford is Stanford, but this team isn't as good as recent years. I wasn't impressed with either team in Stanford's loss at home to USC on Saturday.
vs North Carolina - They struggled with Liberty for a half and squeaked by San Diego St. They are pretenders and we are better.
at Florida State - FSU looked freaking scary in the first 10 min or so of their game vs. OSU before coming back to earth for the final 3 quarters. It all depends which FSU team shows up, but all of a sudden this game doesn't feel nearly as hopeless as many previously thought.
at Navy - Navy doesn't scare me as much as it does a lot of ND fans. They definitely deserve respect, but we've beaten them 47 out of the past 50 games we've played, right?
at Arizona State - This game concerns me more than any game save FSU. ASU has done what they were supposed to do so far this season, and it's away. I'd feel a lot better if we were in the thick of the playoff race when this game takes place.
vs Northwestern - They aren't a good football team. I'd be surprised if they came into this game with more than two wins.
vs Louisville - This will be tough, but, it's Senior Day and BK teams haven't lost on Senior Day in his tenure. We've also had some great performances (Utah 2010 and WF 2012). We'll have a better idea of how good both teams are after we each play Syracuse and FSU.
at Southern Cal - They look better than I thought they would, but I still wasn't overly concerned watching the Stanford game. We'll see what they look like the 5th week of November.

It's a long season and we play against some great teams with excellent coaches (Shaw, Fedora Fisher, Graham, Fitgerald, Petrino and Sark), but I have a lot of confidence in our staff and players, and think our chances of going 9-1 the rest of the way is >5%.
 

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I agree with this. The schedule is daunting, but I feel better about it in week 2 than I did before the season. While I agree with everything in Buster's post, I'm going to drink a tall glass of what NDPhilly is having and look at a schedule that, man for man, only has one team (FSU) with more talent than our team this season.

vs Purdue - We are going to destroy them this weekend in Indy.
BYE
at Syracuse - Syracuse didn't look good in their 2OT win vs. FCS Villanova in week 1. Coming off a bye, there's no real concern other than potentially looking ahead to Stanford.
vs Stanford - Stanford is Stanford, but this team isn't as good as recent years. I wasn't impressed with either team in Stanford's loss at home to USC on Saturday.
vs North Carolina - They struggled with Liberty for a half and squeaked by San Diego St. They are pretenders and we are better.
at Florida State - FSU looked freaking scary in the first 10 min or so of their game vs. OSU before coming back to earth for the final 3 quarters. It all depends which FSU team shows up, but all of a sudden this game doesn't feel nearly as hopeless as many previously thought.
at Navy - Navy doesn't scare me as much as it does a lot of ND fans. They definitely deserve respect, but we've beaten them 47 out of the past 50 games we've played, right?
at Arizona State - This game concerns me more than any game save FSU. ASU has done what they were supposed to do so far this season, and it's away. I'd feel a lot better if we were in the thick of the playoff race when this game takes place.
vs Northwestern - They aren't a good football team. I'd be surprised if they came into this game with more than two wins.
vs Louisville - This will be tough, but, it's Senior Day and BK teams haven't lost on Senior Day in his tenure. We've also had some great performances (Utah 2010 and WF 2012). We'll have a better idea of how good both teams are after we each play Syracuse and FSU.
at Southern Cal - They look better than I thought they would, but I still wasn't overly concerned watching the Stanford game. We'll see what they look like the 5th week of November.

It's a long season and we play against some great teams with excellent coaches (Shaw, Fedora Fisher, Graham, Fitgerald, Petrino and Sark), but I have a lot of confidence in our staff and players, and think our chances of going 9-1 the rest of the way is >5%.

I can't highlight so USC...

- I think they have as good if not better O and D than us. Watching this game vs Stanford makes me feel like they were off.........by A LOT! (Both to be honest)

No highlight means next: Stanford...

- They will kill us if they attack and execute. They were lost but I can bet they will be "under control" come Oct 4th. They wored the 3-5 yrds on USC. Hogan hits the 15-20 routes with aim. If we are not manned we will get worked, BAD!

This team has some steep showings ahead. If we blow out Stanford, the world will consider them for top tier!
 

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I agree with this. The schedule is daunting, but I feel better about it in week 2 than I did before the season. While I agree with everything in Buster's post, I'm going to drink a tall glass of what NDPhilly is having and look at a schedule that, man for man, only has one team (FSU) with more talent than our team this season.

vs Purdue - We are going to destroy them this weekend in Indy.
BYE
at Syracuse - Syracuse didn't look good in their 2OT win vs. FCS Villanova in week 1. Coming off a bye, there's no real concern other than potentially looking ahead to Stanford.
vs Stanford - Stanford is Stanford, but this team isn't as good as recent years. I wasn't impressed with either team in Stanford's loss at home to USC on Saturday.
vs North Carolina - They struggled with Liberty for a half and squeaked by San Diego St. They are pretenders and we are better.
at Florida State - FSU looked freaking scary in the first 10 min or so of their game vs. OSU before coming back to earth for the final 3 quarters. It all depends which FSU team shows up, but all of a sudden this game doesn't feel nearly as hopeless as many previously thought.
at Navy - Navy doesn't scare me as much as it does a lot of ND fans. They definitely deserve respect, but we've beaten them 47 out of the past 50 games we've played, right?
at Arizona State - This game concerns me more than any game save FSU. ASU has done what they were supposed to do so far this season, and it's away. I'd feel a lot better if we were in the thick of the playoff race when this game takes place.
vs Northwestern - They aren't a good football team. I'd be surprised if they came into this game with more than two wins.
vs Louisville - This will be tough, but, it's Senior Day and BK teams haven't lost on Senior Day in his tenure. We've also had some great performances (Utah 2010 and WF 2012). We'll have a better idea of how good both teams are after we each play Syracuse and FSU.
at Southern Cal - They look better than I thought they would, but I still wasn't overly concerned watching the Stanford game. We'll see what they look like the 5th week of November.

It's a long season and we play against some great teams with excellent coaches (Shaw, Fedora Fisher, Graham, Fitgerald, Petrino and Sark), but I have a lot of confidence in our staff and players, and think our chances of going 9-1 the rest of the way is >5%.

I'd like to add that USC has depth problems and they could be severely short by the time this game comes around.
 

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I'd like to add that USC has depth problems and they could be severely short by the time this game comes around.

+1 and they would have played an emotional game the week before against UCLA.

I will say this though....USC usually has a decent schedule but it sure is lacking this year without Oregon on the schedule.
 

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Wasn't really impressed with either Stanford or SC, very sloppy game. I'm with holding my final judgement until I see them play another game, but right now if we play our game we can beat both teams.

Fuck USC
 

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[Stanford's] offense matches up against Notre Dame's defense pretty damn well, and it's doubtful that they'll commit mistakes like they did against USC going forward.
I've seen several people post something along those lines and I really don't get it. Comments like that usually mean that Stanford has a certain strength that will exploit a Notre Dame weakness. What weaknesses can we discern from the Rice and Michigan games? I'm sure some will reveal themselves against more challenging opponents, but what have we seen so far this year that people keep commenting on how well Stanford "matches up" against us?
 

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Stanford played the worst game I've seen them play in years on Sat and they still barely lost... they're clearly one of our biggest hurdles.
 

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Stanford played the worst game I've seen them play in years on Sat and they still barely lost... they're clearly one of our biggest hurdles.
Only a Notre Dame fan can take an opponent playing poorly and turning it into a reason why we'll probably lose. I don't see any reason at this point why "Stanford had an unusually bad game" is any more likely than "Stanford isn't as great as we all thought."
 
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I've seen several people post something along those lines and I really don't get it. Comments like that usually mean that Stanford has a certain strength that will exploit a Notre Dame weakness. What weaknesses can we discern from the Rice and Michigan games? I'm sure some will reveal themselves against more challenging opponents, but what have we seen so far this year that people keep commenting on how well Stanford "matches up" against us?

Seems pretty simple, Stanford's offensive philosophy versus a defense that wants to use nickel sets.
 

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Seems pretty simple, Stanford's offensive philosophy versus a defense that wants to use nickel sets.
That's way over simplified. We've used nickel sets because that's what our opponents have dictated. We've had big leads and those teams have been in obvious passing situations for entire games. You really think we'd come out in a nickel package against Stanford's power formations?
 
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Only a Notre Dame fan can take an opponent playing poorly and turning it into a reason why we'll probably lose. I don't see any reason at this point why "Stanford had an unusually bad game" is any more likely than "Stanford isn't as great as we all thought."

It's kinda like how ND in 2011 beat themselves in the first two games and everyone said "well stop turning the ball over and doing dumb shit" and voila they have an 8-1 stretch next.

I would think that years of Stanford being a top ten team would be enough for people to give them the benefit of the doubt, but I guess not...
 
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That's way over simplified. We've used nickel sets because that's what our opponents have dictated. We've had big leads and those teams have been in obvious passing situations for entire games. You really think we'd come out in a nickel package against Stanford's power formations?

No, I don't think they'll come out on a nickel. That's kinda my point. You're confident Schmidt and Onwualu can take on blocks from Stanford OL running plays right at them? You're confident Trumbetti can take on powers and consistently hold the edge? You're confident Cage can hold up out there when he's releaving the DTs?
 
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Only a Notre Dame fan can take an opponent playing poorly and turning it into a reason why we'll probably lose. I don't see any reason at this point why "Stanford had an unusually bad game" is any more likely than "Stanford isn't as great as we all thought."

Never said anything about us losing... just pointing out that I feel this idea that somehow Stanford is done and dusted is premature imo.
 

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Here's the key this year. Our D is quicker and faster then in previous years.
 

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Only a Notre Dame fan can take an opponent playing poorly and turning it into a reason why we'll probably lose. I don't see any reason at this point why "Stanford had an unusually bad game" is any more likely than "Stanford isn't as great as we all thought."

Stanford was the better team against USC, they just made a lot of mistakes. If they clean up the unforced errors (or find a kicker), they win that game. Outside of FSU they should be our toughest challenge, and we don't match up that well against them. We have looked better than them so far but unless we play a complete game, we most likely don't walk out with a W.
 

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Stanford was the better team against USC, they just made a lot of mistakes. If they clean up the unforced errors (or find a kicker), they win that game. Outside of FSU they should be our toughest challenge, and we don't match up that well against them. We have looked better than them so far but unless we play a complete game, we most likely don't walk out with a W.
Your post restated and stripped of pessimism:

Notre Dame was the better team against Michigan, and they made almost no mistakes. There were hardly any unforced errors and they have a great kicker but they didn't need him to win the game. Outside of Oregon, Notre Dame should be Stanford's toughest challenge, regardless of the matchups. We have looked better than them so far and have played two complete games. If we continue to do so, we walk away with a W.

Seriously though, what's better; a talented team that makes mental errors and loses, or a talented team that plays mistake-free and creams their opponent?
 
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Seriously though, what's better; a talented team that makes mental errors and loses, or a talented team that plays mistake-free and creams their opponent?

It's just a useless question because every week is different and teams change throughout the week. It's sports. It's why Notre Dame lost to Pittsburgh last year. Shit happens. I think you're making way too much out of Stanford's mental errors against Southern Cal.

I do not think this Stanford team is as good as the previous four years, but the match up simply isn't one BVG would prefer. It's why Lax said Florida State might be a better match up than Stanford, and I totally agree with him.

Stanford has assembled a ridiculous amount of talent on their OL:

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Do you have confidence in Trumbetti, a true freshman, winning battles against junior five-star tackles? Do you have confidence that an LB corp weighing in at 235, 235, and 220 can effectively fill gaps? I don't. It's not a match up I like.

I'm not saying Notre Dame can't win or even won't win. Five of the last seven games have been within one possession. I just don't get the lack of respect for a program that is 46-8 in the last four years.
 

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Stanford's issue is it starts 4 new OL this year. No matter how much talent you have that's usually not a good sign. They also lost a good RB meaning their current RB is probably going to miss more than their RB last year. They run a similar MANBALL scheme to Michigan though with a better OLine. I think Gardner is a better pure QB than Hogan and they have the kind of speed WR in Montgomery we haven't faced yet. I do think that UM actually has a pretty elite D. They're senior laden and highly touted with a good DC. Not sure if Stanford recovers from what they lost last year including the DC.

Also did you see what Kelly said? Vs. Michigan we executed 64% of our defensive plays properly vs. 56% vs. Rice. There's a lot of room for improvement. If Golson plays well I think we roll. Plus Shaw is likely to shoot himself in the foot with a handful of head scratching plays like he always does.
 

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It might have been asked and answered on the other pages here, I'm lazy, but anyone got a good site/place for tickets? Stubhub is was more than two other sites I looked at
 

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It's just a useless question because every week is different and teams change throughout the week. It's sports. It's why Notre Dame lost to Pittsburgh last year. Shit happens. I think you're making way too much out of Stanford's mental errors against Southern Cal.

I do not think this Stanford team is as good as the previous four years, but the match up simply isn't one BVG would prefer. It's why Lax said Florida State might be a better match up than Stanford, and I totally agree with him.

Stanford has assembled a ridiculous amount of talent on their OL:

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Do you have confidence in Trumbetti, a true freshman, winning battles against junior five-star tackles? Do you have confidence that an LB corp weighing in at 235, 235, and 220 can effectively fill gaps? I don't. It's not a match up I like.

I'm not saying Notre Dame can't win or even won't win. Five of the last seven games have been within one possession. I just don't get the lack of respect for a program that is 46-8 in the last four years.

I agree. Football is about matchups. And winning those matchups. I posted somewhere else that a team like Va Tech would give Oregon fits simply due to their defense matching up really well with the Oregon offense. I do think the BVG defense puts his players in better position to win those matchups than BD's defense did. I expect a hard fought game but an Irish victory in the end.
 

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Stanford's issue is it starts 4 new OL this year. No matter how much talent you have that's usually not a good sign. They also lost a good RB meaning their current RB is probably going to miss more than their RB last year. They run a similar MANBALL scheme to Michigan though with a better OLine.

USC returned 8/11 players from what was an elite defense last year, and there's little reason to believe it won't be elite again in 2014. Yet Stanford had little problem moving the ball against them. Were it not for historically inept red zone efficiency, the Cardinal would have won an impressive victory comfortably.

I think Gardner is a better pure QB than Hogan and they have the kind of speed WR in Montgomery we haven't faced yet.

Hogan went 22/30 (73%) for 235 yards and no picks against USC's secondary. Gardner went 19/32 (59%) for 189 yards and 3 picks against ours. Stanford's OL is obviously several cuts above UM's, but I still think it's a stretch to say Gardner > Hogan.

I do think that UM actually has a pretty elite D. They're senior laden and highly touted with a good DC.

Their front-7 certainly looks elite. But their secondary is going to be a major problem if they continue to play like they did against us.

Plus Shaw is likely to shoot himself in the foot with a handful of head scratching plays like he always does.

Does Shaw have a reputation for doing that? If so, that's news to me. He did use some unorthodox tactics against SC which didn't pan out-- the direct snap to Montgomery, lots of 3 WR sets, etc.-- but that stuff was notable because it's not typically their game.

I'm with Buster on this one. Shaw has gone 35-8 (2-1 against ND) as a HC. Stanford deserves a healthy amount of respect.
 
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Grantland's Matt Hinton just published an article titled, "No, You (Still) Can't Trust USC":

Steve Sarkisian arrived at USC last December with an implicit mandate to re-create the recent past that had existed under his old L.A. boss, Pete Carroll. And in at least one sense, Sark is off to a precocious start. But the timeline the no. 9 Trojans revisited in Saturday night’s 37-31 flop at Boston College felt a little too recent, and all too familiar.

After all, it was only five years ago that Sarkisian oversaw a monumental, 16-13 upset over his former team in just his third game as Washington’s head coach, the first sign the balance of power on the West Coast was about to undergo a radical shift. At that point, USC was chasing its eighth consecutive conference championship, while Washington was pursuing its first conference win since November 2007. Only a week removed from an uplifting, come-from-behind victory at Ohio State, the mighty Trojans rolled into Seattle as 21-point favorites, but left with the first crack in their previously invincible facade. By the following January, USC had ceded Pac-10 supremacy to Oregon, Carroll had bailed for the NFL, major NCAA sanctions loomed, and the halcyon days were officially, emphatically over.

On Saturday, only a week removed from an uplifting, come-from-behind victory at Stanford, the Trojans rolled into Chestnut Hill as 17-point favorites. In just Sarkisian’s third game as head coach, USC was once again basking in top-10 rankings in both major polls and looking forward to its first serious run at the conference crown since Sark’s days as an assistant. Meanwhile, based on last week’s 30-20 loss to Pittsburgh, Boston College looked bound for little more than a cameo role as a speed bump in 2014.

The Eagles were barely even that against Pitt, yielding 303 yards rushing (including 214 yards to the Panthers’ mammoth tailback, James Conner) while managing just 142 ground yards of their own (and just 91 prior to a handful of late scrambles by quarterback Tyler Murphy against a prevent defense on BC’s penultimate offensive series). BC entered the season with no recognizable playmakers and no discernible identity absent 2013 Heisman finalist Andre Williams, and limped into Saturday night’s game with no answers in sight.

In that context, there’s not much use attempting to make sense of the final numbers against USC, although there was nothing remotely misleading about them. Including negative yardage on sacks, Boston College outrushed USC by more than 400 yards, averaging an astounding 8.4 yards per carry to the Trojans’ equally astounding 0.7. The Eagles ripped off eight runs covering at least 20 yards, five of them by Murphy; the Trojans’ longest carry of the night went for 16 yards. In contrast to the straight-ahead, power-oriented attack that lifted Williams from obscurity last year, BC unleashed a much slipperier read-option scheme on the USC defense, and found itself springing runners into the open field again, and again, and again.

While the USC defense was busy looking outwitted and unprepared for the possibility that the opposing quarterback might keep the ball, the offense was busy doing, well, nothing: After scoring on three consecutive possessions in the first and second quarters (all three of which began in BC territory), the Trojans proceeded to punt on eight straight possessions, failing to earn a first down on four of them. A pair of late touchdowns on the arm of quarterback Cody Kessler made the final score look respectable — at least to the extent that a six-point loss to a 17-point underdog can be considered “respectable” — but after its first possession of the second half, when the score was still just 20-17, USC didn’t touch the ball again with a chance to regain the lead.

In the broader context, though, the result makes perfect sense as the latest in an exceedingly long and incontrovertible line of reminders that, as tempting as it may be to imagine them fulfilling their blue-chip pedigree, the Trojans still cannot be trusted with the keys to their old penthouse in the Pac-12 and the national polls. The allure is obvious: Man for man, USC remains the gold standard for raw talent in the conference, or anywhere west of the Mississippi, and every victory over a quality opponent feels like a glimpse into a room without a fixed ceiling.

The 2014 edition, in particular, is blessed with the requisite star power on both sides of the ball — Kessler, Buck Allen, and Nelson Agholor on offense; Leonard Williams and Hayes Pullard on defense — and is no longer burdened by NCAA sanctions or the disgruntled specter of Lane Kiffin. The Trojans commenced the Sarkisian era by napalming Fresno State to the tune of 52 points on 701 yards of total offense, and followed that promising debut by outslugging the defending conference champs in Stanford. Someday, USC really is going to get back to winning championships, and probably someday soon. Why not this team? Why not now?

Saturday, the answer came right on cue. Maddening volatility was the prevailing theme of the Kiffin era, which was notable mainly for producing, in 2012, the most spectacular failure on record by a team ranked no. 1 in the preseason AP poll. But the trend preceded Kiffin’s arrival, as the senseless flop at Washington in 2009 showed, and now it has persisted beyond his doomed administration as well. The stumble on Saturday was USC’s 12th defeat at the hands of an unranked opponent in the last five years, and the ninth in which the Trojans themselves were ranked.

Remember that Kiffin, like Sarkisian, was hired in a transparent attempt to extend the Carroll dynasty, despite neither of the former understudies having won much of anything in their previous stops as head coach. Because their public personae are so wildly different, the similarities between the former colleagues seemed to end there. In reality, though, USC fans may be realizing that their new coach has more in common with the old one than anyone realized — or, worse, exactly as much as everyone feared.
 
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