NHL Thread

[ACamp1900]

Pens somehow up 4-0 currently on Tampa,... just scored a 1992 Mario Cup jersey I’ve wanted for years,... life is good. Pens need to start winning some more games tho,

 

[ACamp1900]

So watching the Rangers/Bruins game on NBCSN,... game just started and MSG is half empty... somehow I don’t think it’ll be used against ‘fake ass east coast fans who need get to the game on time or else’....

Just sayin.

 

[GBdomer]

Alright guys if anybody here follows fantasy hockey or just a die hard hockey fan in general your boy needs some help. So DM me or hit me up on here and we can get a convo started. Trying to find my 7th keeper spot and I need my brothers right now to help me out.

 

[KPENN]

Alright guys if anybody here follows fantasy hockey or just a die hard hockey fan in general your boy needs some help. So DM me or hit me up on here and we can get a convo started. Trying to find my 7th keeper spot and I need my brothers right now to help me out.

Who are your options? What’s the scoring?

 

[BabyIrish]

THE supposed greatest nhl team in history is about to get swept out of the playoffs

 

[ACamp1900]

Sheesh, that sucks,.... if the pens aren’t good I have nothing,.... please live up to expectation Browns...

 

[Sea Turtle]

Let's go Preds!

 

[ACamp1900]

How about dem Blues!!! Can’t believe we didn’t have a single post during the playoffs btw,... wow. Either way thanks StL,... the free world thanks you.

 

[Veritate Duce Progredi]

How about dem Blues!!! Can’t believe we didn’t have a single post during the playoffs btw,... wow. Either way thanks StL,... the free world thanks you.

People are going crazy right now. Fireworks set off all over, the firestation pulled their trucks out and were blaring the horns. Down town is lit per my friend.

 

[calvegas04]

Well the lesser of two evils won.. Congrats Blues! Go Knights Go!

 

[yankeehater]

I would have never guessed the Blues would win The Cup; otherwise, I would have put money down on them when they were 300-1 in Vegas back in December.

 

[NDMIA]

No talk on The IE board, ratings not rising in playoffs as much as other sports leagues in US. Gotta get the refereeing fixed in the offseason. Too much randomness. Zero consistency and downright negligence when it comes to injury prevention. The stuff that some of these teams were able to get away with in the playoffs was borderline crazy (Hand Pass against San Jose, Slewfoot leading to a goal against Bruins, Too Many Men on the Ice for two different goals in the Finals against both teams). Easy fix would be to add a 3rd ref in a video room reviewing the stuff in the arena but the bottom line is something has to change because the referees are simply not fast enough to see stuff in real time anymore and the game is too fast to be called by humans. Need more technology helping out the refs. They simply can’t see things quickly enough, don’t have the stones to make calls, and make blatantly wrong calls because they’re guessing a lot. Seriously hurt the product of the NHL this postseason and ended with one of the most boring slugfests in a game 7 with zero atmosphere and no energy. Zero up and down the ice, speed and skill were completely taken out of the game and it became a form of kickball with brain injuries allowable. Hats off to the Blues for the big time win and for their first Stanley Cup ever! Big time win for them!

 

[BobbyMac]

About time chumps. It only took you my whole life.

Now back to obscurity with you!

(To any StL/ND fans on this board, congrats! It's a wonderrful feeling to see your first. Enjoy it!)

Toronto, you're now on the Cup Curse Clock cuz you ain't done squat since '67 either.

 

[Veritate Duce Progredi]

No talk on The IE board, ratings not rising in playoffs as much as other sports leagues in US. Gotta get the refereeing fixed in the offseason. Too much randomness. Zero consistency and downright negligence when it comes to injury prevention. The stuff that some of these teams were able to get away with in the playoffs was borderline crazy (Hand Pass against San Jose, Slewfoot leading to a goal against Bruins, Too Many Men on the Ice for two different goals in the Finals against both teams). Easy fix would be to add a 3rd ref in a video room reviewing the stuff in the arena but the bottom line is something has to change because the referees are simply not fast enough to see stuff in real time anymore and the game is too fast to be called by humans. Need more technology helping out the refs. They simply can’t see things quickly enough, don’t have the stones to make calls, and make blatantly wrong calls because they’re guessing a lot. Seriously hurt the product of the NHL this postseason and ended with one of the most boring slugfests in a game 7 with zero atmosphere and no energy. Zero up and down the ice, speed and skill were completely taken out of the game and it became a form of kickball with brain injuries allowable. Hats off to the Blues for the big time win and for their first Stanley Cup ever! Big time win for them!

Lol. It was plenty exciting for us.

 

[Veritate Duce Progredi]

I would have never guessed the Blues would win The Cup; otherwise, I would have put money down on them when they were 300-1 in Vegas back in December.

Isn't that the whole point of long odds? No one thought they'd win the cup.

I would've never guessed the powerball numbers last week, otherwise I would've bought a ticket with those exact numbers.

 

[Irish#1]

Long time coming. Congrats to the city of St. Louis, congrats to its fans and congrats to the Blues.

They're not singing the blues anymore!

 

[Some Irish Bloke]

No talk on The IE board, ratings not rising in playoffs as much as other sports leagues in US. Gotta get the refereeing fixed in the offseason. Too much randomness. Zero consistency and downright negligence when it comes to injury prevention. The stuff that some of these teams were able to get away with in the playoffs was borderline crazy (Hand Pass against San Jose, Slewfoot leading to a goal against Bruins, Too Many Men on the Ice for two different goals in the Finals against both teams). Easy fix would be to add a 3rd ref in a video room reviewing the stuff in the arena but the bottom line is something has to change because the referees are simply not fast enough to see stuff in real time anymore and the game is too fast to be called by humans. Need more technology helping out the refs. They simply can’t see things quickly enough, don’t have the stones to make calls, and make blatantly wrong calls because they’re guessing a lot. Seriously hurt the product of the NHL this postseason and ended with one of the most boring slugfests in a game 7 with zero atmosphere and no energy. Zero up and down the ice, speed and skill were completely taken out of the game and it became a form of kickball with brain injuries allowable. Hats off to the Blues for the big time win and for their first Stanley Cup ever! Big time win for them!

No.

 

[Some Irish Bloke]

Really cool to see the Blues take home the cup. Always exciting to see a franchise win their first championship, and even sweeter for a guy like me with horse in the race simply knowing that Boston will feel a little heartache in the world of sports for once. Seriously, they win a championship every 4 months it feels like. Historic run for that city, but I'm happy STL pulled this one off.

There was one guy who laid down $400 in Vegas back in January when the Blues were the worst team in the league and he took home six figures at 250-1. Interesting read here talking about how the oddsmakers wouldn't have changed a thing and the Blues winning is truly a one-off scenario they haven't seen the likes of before. They're not changing the script moving forward.

https://www.espn.com/chalk/story/_/id/26960823/oddsmakers-alter-ways-blues-win

 

[Irish Joe]

Was indifferent about a winner watching Game 7, but its always so cool watching people celebrate accomplishing a lifelong dream.

 

[NDMIA]

No.

Then what’s your solution to fixing the issues? Continue the way the playoffs have been? Keep throwing suspensions out after hits happen that go unpenalized (basically NHL admitting it should’ve been at least a penalty and probably a major). Continue to allow game-winning and series changing goals to happen illegally? What happens if the Sharks win that series with that hand pass? And don’t tell me the hockey gods corrected the NHL’s mistake (that’s hogwash). Oh and the Vegas Golden Knights should be playing in their second Stanley Cup final in a row. So yea, just keep the same crap going, blast people who suggest some sort of change to a broken system, and the NHL will keep being the little brother to all of the other major sports in North America.

 

[ACamp1900]

Pretty sure ratings are dropping for every sport across the board...

 

[Some Irish Bloke]

Then what’s your solution to fixing the issues? Continue the way the playoffs have been? Keep throwing suspensions out after hits happen that go unpenalized (basically NHL admitting it should’ve been at least a penalty and probably a major). Continue to allow game-winning and series changing goals to happen illegally? What happens if the Sharks win that series with that hand pass? And don’t tell me the hockey gods corrected the NHL’s mistake (that’s hogwash). Oh and the Vegas Golden Knights should be playing in their second Stanley Cup final in a row. So yea, just keep the same crap going, blast people who suggest some sort of change to a broken system, and the NHL will keep being the little brother to all of the other major sports in North America.

First of all, human error is a part of every sport. Umpires miss a strike or call a pitch a little outside a strike.. In hockey, there is obviously a lot going on, similar to football. You could probably call a hold on every single play at the line of scrimmage, nature of the game, but the refs throw the flag on the egregious, play altering instances.

In no single game in any sport is the outcome decided by one play. There are missed opportunities throughout the game that led up to that critical moment. But that one critical moment is just a part of how the conclusion came to be throughout the entire 60 minutes of work. That no call on the trip against Boston late in the game is 50/50 to me. It was great acting by the defensman in the zone. Again, my opinion. Obviously Boston fans feel differently.

Further replay will continue to diminish the sport, every sport. It makes the game longer with waiting times, stops play and potentially momentum, and is only necessary in certain places. If you want to implement some sort of "challenge rule" similar to the new pass interference rule in the NFL, that's a little more reasonable but I'm still not even a fan of that.

Stopping the game to make sure that every little nuisance is being corrected is just a horrible idea, IMO. Robots? cmon, man.

 

[Some Irish Bloke]

If it's egregious to the tune of 15 flags for 140 penalty yards for one team, vs. 2 flags for 15 yards for the other, okay, I'm going to give you that.

But in your examples, you're pointing out missed calls in every series against several teams. Not unbalanced, or bias. Not perfection, but consistent. Utopia doesn't exist.

Refs make mistakes just like players and coaches do. Part of the competition.

 

[NDMIA]

First of all, human error is a part of every sport. Umpires miss a strike or call a pitch a little outside a strike.. In hockey, there is obviously a lot going on, similar to football. You could probably call a hold on every single play at the line of scrimmage, nature of the game, but the refs throw the flag on the egregious, play altering instances.

In no single game in any sport is the outcome decided by one play. There are missed opportunities throughout the game that led up to that critical moment. But that one critical moment is just a part of how the conclusion came to be throughout the entire 60 minutes of work. That no call on the trip against Boston late in the game is 50/50 to me. It was great acting by the defensman in the zone. Again, my opinion. Obviously Boston fans feel differently.

Further replay will continue to diminish the sport, every sport. It makes the game longer with waiting times, stops play and potentially momentum, and is only necessary in certain places. If you want to implement some sort of "challenge rule" similar to the new pass interference rule in the NFL, that's a little more reasonable but I'm still not even a fan of that.

Stopping the game to make sure that every little nuisance is being corrected is just a horrible idea, IMO. Robots? cmon, man.

Lol my suggestion was increase the use of technology meaning replays and maybe a 3rd ref upstairs. I agree there’s no perfect solution and it will be messy. But just to continue down the path without making changes is not smart. Also never suggested robots haha, but replays and allowing for all things to be reviewed prior to a goal would be wise. A missed high stick sucks but it’s not the end of the world, but slew foots that lead directly to goals, hand passes that win games should be reviewable and I think you’ll see the NHL make some move this offseason cause the NHL shouldn’t be subjected to incorrect calls deciding goals and therefore games.

 

[calvegas04]

Video review will be getting added for calls this off season. To many terrible calls this playoffs

 

[Rogue219]

Pretty sure ratings are dropping for every sport across the board...

Yes. Far too many options for people now.

I am mostly happy that Boston did not win a World Series, Super Bowl and Stanley Cup inside of one 10 month school year. No city deserves that, especially one who has already had a good amount of success in the last 20 years like Boston.

Didn't see a great deal of the series so can't say about the referees. The naked eye seeing things in real time is tricky considering how much bigger, faster and stronger the athletes are now. The more video assistance, the better. Get the calls right.

Interesting Draft coming up. First two picks should be locks, then it's a toss up after that, just in time for Chicago to pick third.

 

[ACamp1900]

Thoughts on the Subban trade?? Pretty wild stuff...

 

[Sea Turtle]

Thoughts on the Subban trade?? Pretty wild stuff...

As a Prefs fan, I'm ok with it. This core was given a 4 year window and they regressed each year. Time to move a Blueliner and bring Fabbro along.

We had a great draft to restock our prospects and will have three second next year.

Apparently we are going after Duchene now.

 

[KPENN]

Thoughts on the Subban trade?? Pretty wild stuff...

As someone that loves Subban I don’t think it’s as bad as people are making it out to be. The way Subban plays I kinda see his decline starting. Getting someone to take on a $9m cap hit for 3 years is big.

 

[gkIrish]

The Rangers rebuilt their team about as quickly and smoothly as I've ever seen. Could be contenders as early as this year.