ND's Talking Heads ... The good, bad & ugly

Irishize

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Maybe it was: "Well, let's see if he's changed. No? Good bye."

If I had to guess, I’d say Somogyi tried to mend fences between Prister & Driskell & Prister agreed out of respect to Lou. Purely a guess on my part.
 

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Thank you, Jack! Enjoy your retirement. <a href="https://twitter.com/NDJackNolan?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@NDJackNolan</a> <a href="https://t.co/XrFJVyyU7q">https://t.co/XrFJVyyU7q</a></p>— Fighting Irish Media (@NDFIM) <a href="https://twitter.com/NDFIM/status/1357344283636887552?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 4, 2021</a></blockquote>

I wasn't the biggest fan, but he represented ND pretty solidly. Happy retirement.
 

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Jack and Jeff Jeffers did a lot of broadcasts / interviews with out team in HS. So much better than the WSBT and the ABC affiliate's crews.

Two professionals for sure.

Talked with Tom Rinaldi and barely remembered him. With some hoops buddies after an ND game in '94 and ran into him at whatever bar we were in. (Was the Madison Ave Oyster Bar a thing then?). I had to be reminded years later that that was him.
 

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Jack and Jeff Jeffers did a lot of broadcasts / interviews with out team in HS. So much better than the WSBT and the ABC affiliate's crews.

Two professionals for sure.

Talked with Tom Rinaldi and barely remembered him. With some hoops buddies after an ND game in '94 and ran into him at whatever bar we were in. (Was the Madison Ave Oyster Bar a thing then?). I had to be reminded years later that that was him.

Oyster Bar is on Main St in downtown now. Idk of it ever being on Madison.
 

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He asked him a very long question about QB recruiting and evaluating using film vs in person seeing someone throw. And then basically how did COVID restrictions affect recruiting this year. Tommy just had a stank face on while it was being asked and then called him “coach” before answering. Also, he has bleached hair now which looks terrible.

LMFAOOOOO thanks
 

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Jack was dynamite during the elite eight runs. Really had fun listening to him. He deserves an awesome and relaxing retirement
 

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I thought Lax was saying Driskell has bleached hair now. Very disappointing to hear that it's Rees
 

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He asked him a very long question about QB recruiting and evaluating using film vs in person seeing someone throw. And then basically how did COVID restrictions affect recruiting this year. Tommy just had a stank face on while it was being asked and then called him “coach” before answering. Also, he has bleached hair now which looks terrible.

I can imagine Tommy addressing him with all the contempt Arthur Morgan musters every time he spits out "O'Driscoll".
 

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Video | Notre Dame OC Tommy Rees on Tyler Buchner & QB Evaluations<br><br>Full Video: <a href="https://t.co/MfEpBKNaeH">https://t.co/MfEpBKNaeH</a> <a href="https://t.co/PweDCHuoGG">pic.twitter.com/PweDCHuoGG</a></p>— Irish Sports Daily (@ISDUpdate) <a href="https://twitter.com/ISDUpdate/status/1357447407588569090?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 4, 2021</a></blockquote>


In case anyone wants to see the Tommy Freshwater look.
 

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The better the program has gotten, the worse some of the ‘journalists’ have. That’s pretty telling.
 

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cliff notes?


Don't even need to listen to the whole thing - you get the point in the 1st 5 minutes. Ragging Kelly's recruiting efforts, ragging Kelly not taking questions at the signing day presser, ragging the things Polian and Elston were saying about no recruiting superstars amongst the coaches, ragging Kelly saying a few years ago that ND could be top 5 recruiting then not doing anything to get there and on and on.

I almost f'in choked when Fortuna said that the stuff Polian was saying in the presser sounded like he was reading a powerpoint about his recent book on coaching because it was full of a lot of platitudes w/o a lot of substance.

I mean, some of their criticism is true. But, it's also true that Fortuna has a serious hardon for Kelly and Sampson is starting to act like he does, too.
 

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The better the program has gotten, the worse some of the ‘journalists’ have. That’s pretty telling.


I used to really like Sampson, but his attitude and writing have changed a bit. I definitely see why you say that.

Cannot stand Fortuna. Not in the least. He was a shit-ass even back when he was on the ND beat for ESPN
 
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What a couple of useless tools. Done nothing to improve recruiting? He went out and got the rockstar DC. He played a role in getting a beautiful indoor practice facility built. I’m almost positive we’ll see some Gug renovations in the near future. BK has been amazing for getting ND into the new era of college football the way that none of the recent coaches had. And all little Pete wants to talk about is Tyson Ford’s comments. He just ignores that Logan Diggs talked about how much BK recruited him down the stretch. Or the numerous other players that have been in contact with BK.

The no superstars comment by Polian is terrible journalism. The context of that comment is they view it as a team effort. Nobody is recruiting a guy on there own. You are either deliberately trying to make them look bad or complete fucking idiot to take it the way Sampson is.
 

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The better the program has gotten, the worse some of the ‘journalists’ have. That’s pretty telling.

It’s also odd that it’s two guys that know significantly less about the subject matter they are talking about then they used to, yet have increased their criticism. Fortuna no longer covering ND and Sampson no longer covering recruiting and more just team based, as journalists you’d expect them to be aware of their now limited knowledge and leave it to the current subject matter experts. Their pod has just become two random ND fans complaining advertised as a Athletic podcast.
 

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And if it felt scripted, that’s because it was. How in the world is that a bad thing. They came to a planned presser with a coordinated effort on what to discuss. Focusing on the retrospective work they did on their recruiting efforts and how those efforts produced on the field. How dare they do such a thing. They should’ve just stood there while Pete hurled his stupid questions and accusations about Tyson Ford at BK.
 

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The irony of complaining about Tyson Ford's comments when the kid is committed to ND.
 

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And if it felt scripted, that’s because it was. How in the world is that a bad thing. They came to a planned presser with a coordinated effort on what to discuss. Focusing on the retrospective work they did on their recruiting efforts and how those efforts produced on the field. How dare they do such a thing. They should’ve just stood there while Pete hurled his stupid questions and accusations about Tyson Ford at BK.

They are way over-conspiracy thinking the planned nature of it. Yes was some of it planned to address the Ford criticism, yes. But it was a NSD presser in which Rees talked about Buchner and Coan, Elston talked about Aipui and other recruiting mentions, combined with Freeman’s first presser. An unorganized and question based presser could have lasted for hours. I viewed the structure as just a time base keep it moving.
 

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The irony of complaining about Tyson Ford's comments when the kid is committed to ND.

Seriously. It’s complete nonsense.

Well, we only have him because of Freeman and the only reason we have Freeman is because of BK...oh wait...that’s not supposed to read that way. Let me rethink this narrative for a bit and I’ll get back to you.
 

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Don't even need to listen to the whole thing - you get the point in the 1st 5 minutes. Ragging Kelly's recruiting efforts, ragging Kelly not taking questions at the signing day presser, ragging the things Polian and Elston were saying about no recruiting superstars amongst the coaches, ragging Kelly saying a few years ago that ND could be top 5 recruiting then not doing anything to get there and on and on.

I almost f'in choked when Fortuna said that the stuff Polian was saying in the presser sounded like he was reading a powerpoint about his recent book on coaching because it was full of a lot of platitudes w/o a lot of substance.

I mean, some of their criticism is true. But, it's also true that Fortuna has a serious hardon for Kelly and Sampson is starting to act like he does, too.

Thanks.
Never really cared for either.

I do think there are some areas where it's fair to criticize on the topic, so thought they might have spit some data points on BK's tenure. My biggest beefs are struggles at specific positions, and overall just the lack of elite guys (5 star). Only 1 in the last 8 classes. He had like 4 or 5 in his first few years. I know star-talk triggers some, and I know it's not all about stars, but it's absolutely an indicator.
 

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tbf i feel like they are mainly just pissed BK didn't take any questions

Reminds me of the reaction from Clemson week when they and the II guys were ragging on how "unprofessional" it was for 30 minutes on their podcast. Lol as if spending 30 minutes on that single comment wasn't.

I'm glad that I don't need to listen to the latest episode of The Shamrock. Honestly half the episodes lately (and the guests) have been lackluster.
 

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I mean Matt Fortuna's greatest ND vs Michigan memory (as told on their podcast before the 2019 game) was Lennay Kekua's funeral.

That was my first and only time I've listened to that podcast.
 
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