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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">MBB: In his online chat yesterday SB Trib's <a href="https://twitter.com/tnoieNDI?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@tnoieNDI</a> said he thinks ND's team to beat for Isaiah Stewart (I agree). Also said ND's in the mix for 2019's top PG, 5* Cole Anthony (NY). Thinks it's Syracuse or Michigan for Girard.</p>— 🏀ND Hoops Recruits (@NDHoopsRecruits) <a href="https://twitter.com/NDHoopsRecruits/status/1012655042141343747?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 29, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Would be a huge get. I thought he was still a heavy Duke lean?
IU was after him but think they are all in on Jackson-Davis now.
 

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CBs don’t mean a whole lot due to the fact that there is about zero anyalsts that cover strickly basketball.

Not sure I can say I believe he’ll sign with ND.

If they clearly lead you would think at least one guy would have thrown a CB down tho.
 

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If they clearly lead you would think at least one guy would have thrown a CB down tho.

Just as an FYI, Stewart was quoted in an article saying he thought it was hilarious that people were predicting his future when he didn’t know where he was going. So I think everyone needs to relax and just let it play out. We’re for sure in his top group, he’ll be visiting for the Michigan game and hopefully we can make a big splash.
 

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Just as an FYI, Stewart was quoted in an article saying he thought it was hilarious that people were predicting his future when he didn’t know where he was going. So I think everyone needs to relax and just let it play out. We’re for sure in his top group, he’ll be visiting for the Michigan game and hopefully we can make a big splash.

I’ve been following duke basketball for years and I can tell you the basketball analysts on 247, especially the duke ones, put in Duke CB’s on pretty much every duke prospect. I mean Joseph Girard was offered by Duke and had never been to campus and yet got like 10 CB’s for Duke. Most of the bball ones are projection based and then come in accurately last minute. I think with Isaiah Stewart there is genuine interest in Duke because he’s been there and he’s their top big man target next to Vernon Carey.
 

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If they clearly lead you would think at least one guy would have thrown a CB down tho.

Or you would think there are guys like Tom Loy (he doesn’t)throwing around pointless CBs because they can on the best team possible. Don’t forget CBB isn’t as popular as CFB. Look at this board for instance. There are 10 regular posters during the CBB season and 200 regular posters during the CFB season....
 

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Or you would think there are guys like Tom Loy (he doesn’t)throwing around pointless CBs because they can on the best team possible. Don’t forget CBB isn’t as popular as CFB. Look at this board for instance. There are 10 regular posters during the CBB season and 200 regular posters during the CFB season....

Nah I knew Loy doesn't play the CB game for hoops. His pick wouldn't make me feel any different anyways. I wasn't trying to point out the tweet as wrong or right, obviously I don't know where the kid is leaning, just thought it was interesting to see not one for ND.
 

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I like to browse ND Hoops Recruit's twitter page every now and then because he's usually pretty good at getting information out on both the men's and women's teams. With that being said, saying that a low to mid 4 star with offers from UCONN, Louisville, and home town Pitt is a back up plan to Isaiah Stewart is a pipe dream IMO. If Notre Dame loses out on Stewart but pulls Mitchell out of their hat, Brey's new assistants need pay raises ASAP.

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For basketball recruiting in general, Notre Dame is way behind the 8 ball compared to the 2018 class. The staff probably has an uphill battle for Stewart, I don't think they get Girard, and thats about it. I don't understand how a team that was extremely mediocre last season can be so selective with who they offer. If you looked at who they've offered, you'd think Notre Dame was Villanova or something.
 
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I like to browse ND Hoops Recruit's twitter page every now and then because he's usually pretty good at getting information out on both the men's and women's teams. With that being said, saying that a low to mid 4 star with offers from UCONN, Louisville, and home town Pitt is a back up plan to Isaiah Stewart is a pipe dream IMO. If Notre Dame loses out on Stewart but pulls Mitchell out of their hat, Brey's new assistants need pay raises ASAP.

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For basketball recruiting in general, Notre Dame is way behind the 8 ball compared to the 2018 class. The staff probably has an uphill battle for Stewart, I don't think they get Girard, and thats about it. I don't understand how a team that was extremely mediocre last season can be so selective with who they offer. If you looked at who they've offered, you'd think Notre Dame was Villanova or something.

Yea ND has 11 scholarships coming back for the 2019-2020 season. They probably need anywhere between 1-3 guys (not that tuned in to ND b-ball so idk about their habits of keeping it around 13). Needing the small number in their class they still have an incredibly low amount of offers out. Duke, for example, who’s very selective with who they recruit, has 10 offers and ND has 9. Kentucky also has the same amount of offers out as ND. They need to get in it with a few more guys, but I’m sure Brey has a plan because of the last 6 commits this program has had, 5 of them are top 100 recruits. That’s a pretty special level of recruiting.
 

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Given last year's haul I think we can afford to aim for the moon here. Not to mention the huge volume of transfers that are on the market these days (average is something over two per team in DI PER YEAR). I am hopeful this is a sign they really like where they stand with a couple of top guys and the new facilities nicely complimenting Brey's value prop.
 

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Second eval period is opening up this week I believe. More offers should go out.
 

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Given last year's haul I think we can afford to aim for the moon here. Not to mention the huge volume of transfers that are on the market these days (average is something over two per team in DI PER YEAR). I am hopeful this is a sign they really like where they stand with a couple of top guys and the new facilities nicely complimenting Brey's value prop.

I agree that last year's class has the potential to be really good; Laszewski was born to play in Brey's offense and Goodwin is a true sharp shooter that Notre Dame hasn't had in a while. But they are still locking size/bodies on the block. Durham should be starting this year, then you have Mooney (more of a 4), Burns, and Doherty (99.9% chance he redshirts). Recruiting bigs has always been an issue for Brey for some reason. They've offered 3 5 star bigs and 2 high 4 star bigs; they really need to expand that board.
 

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I agree that last year's class has the potential to be really good; Laszewski was born to play in Brey's offense and Goodwin is a true sharp shooter that Notre Dame hasn't had in a while. But they are still locking size/bodies on the block. Durham should be starting this year, then you have Mooney (more of a 4), Burns, and Doherty (99.9% chance he redshirts). Recruiting bigs has always been an issue for Brey for some reason. They've offered 3 5 star bigs and 2 high 4 star bigs; they really need to expand that board.

My dude, it's still early. (and we do still have shot with out dream guys).

What are you suggesting by, "expanding the board"? Should Brey offer lesser talent, just to get big bodies?

1) There's still plentyyyy of time to offer new guys later (or steal commits).
2) There are always grad transfers in college bball.

ND needs to take that next step for elite talent, especially with bigs. I love that Brey is swinging for the fences for this smaller class. And don't fool yourself by thinking Brey doesn't have a "plan B".
 

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My dude, it's still early. (and we do still have shot with out dream guys).

What are you suggesting by, "expanding the board"? Should Brey offer lesser talent, just to get big bodies?

1) There's still plentyyyy of time to offer new guys later (or steal commits).
2) There are always grad transfers in college bball.

ND needs to take that next step for elite talent, especially with bigs. I love that Brey is swinging for the fences for this smaller class. And don't fool yourself by thinking Brey doesn't have a "plan B".

This is where I am at. It's not like football where you take 22-25 guys. If we still have a chance with our elite choices we need to hold on to those scholarships. Why make a non-committable offer to someone else?
 

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My dude, it's still early. (and we do still have shot with out dream guys).

What are you suggesting by, "expanding the board"? Should Brey offer lesser talent, just to get big bodies?

1) There's still plentyyyy of time to offer new guys later (or steal commits).
2) There are always grad transfers in college bball.

ND needs to take that next step for elite talent, especially with bigs. I love that Brey is swinging for the fences for this smaller class. And don't fool yourself by thinking Brey doesn't have a "plan B".

I think that they should offer more than 5 bigs, yes. Especially when its pretty well known that they have a realistic chance for just 1, maybe 2, of them. I'd love to be confident in knowing that Brey knows what he's doing when it comes to getting bigs to commit, but he hasn't really done anything in recent years to make me believe that. I love that Brey has the confidence to swing for the fences when it comes to recruiting, but, no, I don't think he should have the same recruiting philosophy as Duke. I think they should expand their board and offer some bigs that fit into what Notre Dame offers as a university.

Looking at recruits in Indiana, maybe Jakov Kukic is a back up plan? He's 6'10", 220 pounds and plays at La Lumiere (45 minutes west of South Bend). I think their new head coach has some sort of connection to ND.
 

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I think that they should offer more than 5 bigs, yes. Especially when its pretty well known that they have a realistic chance for just 1, maybe 2, of them. I'd love to be confident in knowing that Brey knows what he's doing when it comes to getting bigs to commit, but he hasn't really done anything in recent years to make me believe that. I love that Brey has the confidence to swing for the fences when it comes to recruiting, but, no, I don't think he should have the same recruiting philosophy as Duke. I think they should expand their board and offer some bigs that fit into what Notre Dame offers as a university.

Looking at recruits in Indiana, maybe Jakov Kukic is a back up plan? He's 6'10", 220 pounds and plays at La Lumiere (45 minutes west of South Bend). I think their new head coach has some sort of connection to ND.

It's not time to open the board yet though, that's my point.

Also, I rather go for a one year grad student then commit to four years of an average recruit. We need to aim high, then adjust if need be later. Be patient.
 

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Offered. Clearly, Mike Brey reads IE on his down time and saw my post. Not as tall as most bigs; has position flexibility and guards bigs when his teams plays "small ball", which is important because Brey does that quite a bit. He has some impressive offers. If he's one of kids blowing up this summer, maybe he can be this year's Nate Laz.

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">MBB: Don't know much about Chris Ledlum. Reports say he's 1 of the kids blowing up. Physical, aggressive, can play SF or SG, defends bigs in small ball system, versatile & tough, scoring's skyrocketed this Summer. <a href="https://t.co/3SsidKtYpV">https://t.co/3SsidKtYpV</a></p>— 🏀ND Hoops Recruits (@NDHoopsRecruits) <a href="https://twitter.com/NDHoopsRecruits/status/1021190672307679232?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 23, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 

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I saw this kid was from Staten Island. I wondered if it was Kyle McAlarney‘s high school. It is not.

While I was googling that, I did see that Kyle just retired from playing ball overseas and is now the head coach at his old high school.
 

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This is what I'm talking about in my previous post. A kid with this size, offers, and ranking should've been offered a loooong time ago. Brey and Notre Dame isn't a program like Duke where they can just offer an elite recruit like this semi-late into the process and expect anything to come from it. Not only do I put their chances at >1%, but this makes me think they aren't very confident that Stewart is coming to ND. But hey, keep shining for the fences Brey. You'll land one of them eventually, right?

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I thank The Most High for receiving an offer from the University of Notre Dame <a href="https://t.co/Ujw5u5ucmp">pic.twitter.com/Ujw5u5ucmp</a></p>— Zeke Nnaji (@ZekeNnaji_Hoopz) <a href="https://twitter.com/ZekeNnaji_Hoopz/status/1022339139973181440?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 26, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 

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I’m sure there was communication before the offer went out. As stated in a couple posts above, basketball doesn’t send out 20 scholarships to kids and only have 5 of them be commitable.

This is nothing new for Brey and Co. and yes b-ball recruiting scares the sh!t out of me too sometimes but he always gets it done in the end. ND will be fine.
 

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https://247sports.com/college/notre...all-Preview-Michigan-at-Notre-Dame--120235657

A pretty good article about who the Irish are pursuing in 2020. Watch out for Jaden Ivey, the son of Niele Ivey (Women's assistant basketball coach) and plays at Marian High School. If Marian sounds familiar its because thats where Demetrius Jackson went and also current Princeton guard Devin Cannady; the school is like 10 minutes from campus.
 

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Apparently Notre Dame is his dream school. I know "dream school" is normally the kiss of death for Notre Dame in football, lets hope that isn't the case for basketball

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Brian Snow gave a CB for Tre Mitchell. Between Isaiah Stewart, Tre Mitchell, Joseph Girard, & Chris Ledlum you probably have 4 strong targets for the 2 man class.
 

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Brian Snow gave a CB for Tre Mitchell. Between Isaiah Stewart, Tre Mitchell, Joseph Girard, & Chris Ledlum you probably have 4 strong targets for the 2 man class.

Not familiar with 247 Basketball Analysts, but it says that for the 2019 class, his CB has been 100% accurate. He's 25 for 25.
 

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MBB: Rivals reports 2019 4* 6-10 Zeke Nnaji (MN, top 40 in class) has set a UV to ND for 8/24. Here is another big to watch out for.
 
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