[NCAAF] vBook: National Championship - Ohio State vs Alabama

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My post was an observation of your observation. We always been not that far away and when it comes time for the big game we forget to show up. I am glad you are optimistic about Buchner showing up but I will wait and see what happens. BK has yet to develop a QB into a Heisman trophy candidate and that is what we need to win the big one.

I agree mostly, but slightly disagree with one point. I think we are closer than we have been under BK, even from 2012.

We have more depth, and have better identified people who will fit our scheme and system.

We are only a couple of better skill position players away. I believe we have the WR and RB talent that we need on offense. It's really just the QB that is a question at this point.

We have two four star recruits on the roster, and hopefully one of them works out. If not, then we can fry BK in butter and not feel bad about it, based on his history with QBs.
 

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I'm 0% surprised with what Bama's offense is doing to them, although it really is a shame that Devonta Smith has been out the entire second half. I saw Indiana light up this team and it was clear that Clemson's failures were strictly coaching... and not that surprising considering that they were missing their OC for the game.

I am surprised that Ohio State's offense has been this mediocre given how much NFL talent they have.

Regardless, I picked Ohio State to lose by at least three scores and it looks like that's what we'll get with the inevitable late TD here.


Told my wife before the game if gambling was legal In NY (and I could stand the stress) I would go HUGE on Bama covering tonight. I loved the over too, although that barely hit. I’m talking bet the savings confident
 

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Landon Dickerson, whose season was ended by a knee injury and surgery a few weeks ago, dressed for the game and got to make the final couple of snaps. Very cool.
 

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Reading the Buckeye board after the game tonight was cathartic. They came in talking about how their defense was better than ours :laugh: Then by halftime a lot of them were wanting to fire Coombs and they wanted to hire Freeman out from under us. They were pulling their hair out in disbelief that they couldn't keep Bama's score lower than us.

Your team did well, Bishop and Tommy, I'm pleased. Feels like karma caught up with the Buckeyes, this was the outcome we were looking for.
 

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This is brutal. I almost feel bad for OSU. I'll admit that I didn't see this coming, but I'll certainly take it, though.

I don’t. I am glad they got beat like this. They act like they are the worlds best thing since slice bread with their cry baby QB that transferred because he was soft. F- OSU.
 

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Dickerson deserved this moment. How cool. <a href="https://t.co/CLVjtCgOcj">pic.twitter.com/CLVjtCgOcj</a></p>— Geoff Schwartz (@geoffschwartz) <a href="https://twitter.com/geoffschwartz/status/1348855302242893824?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 12, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Dickerson deserved this moment. How cool. <a href="https://t.co/CLVjtCgOcj">pic.twitter.com/CLVjtCgOcj</a></p>— Geoff Schwartz (@geoffschwartz) <a href="https://twitter.com/geoffschwartz/status/1348855302242893824?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 12, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

I'm seeing shades of the first Iron Man movie, "Proof that Nick Saban has a heart."
 

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Congrats again Bishop and TTT. Man it must be nice.

Thanks, Cack. It is and I'm trying to make sure I don't take any of it for granted. I was a kid during Bryant's first era of greatness in the 60's and was a student at Bama when we won back-to-back titles my first two years there. I also remember the misery of being consistently mediocre to bad, and all too often being some unholy, embarrassing combination of laughingstock and dumpster fire for almost all of a 25 year span. This run is special, but I know it won't last forever. I'm just enjoying the moment.
 

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Congrats Bishop & Tommy!

I actually know more rational Bama fans than LSU or tOSU fans, so you got that going for you...which is nice.

My manager is a huge Bama fan but he was humble enough to send a “one time only” Roll Tide text to his team.

Saban is the GOAT and it was actually refreshing to see the old red ass smile last night and enjoy the moment. Day seems like a good dude, too. It’s not the players or coaches that I have disdain....it’s both of those schools fanbases. And to that point, it’s probably more fringe but they’re the loudest & love to troll so we assume they’re all like that. If you think about it, same goes for politics. We’re not all that different. It’s just the fringe that gets all the attention & causes all the frustration.
 

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Werner for OSU looked tiny out there and Borland was slow as molasses.
 

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In my alcohol induced betting right before the game I got Bama with the Points and the over.... only to have only bet 100 when I totally meant to bet 100,000,000. I am thinking I wrote in periods instead of commas. This is why I dont gamble in real life.
 

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Lets be honest. Saban could leave and they could coach themselves. Studs all over the field. They could just play backyard football and draw up plays on the fly and be this good.
 

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Lets be honest. Saban could leave and they could coach themselves. Studs all over the field. They could just play backyard football and draw up plays on the fly and be this good.

Disagree. Otherwise, USC wouldn't be where they are. Coaching matters. Culture matters. It's not just the talent that he has at Bama (which is the best roster in the country), but he gets the most out of those players. Every. Single. Year. You could take all of the money they spend at Bama and put it in Knoxville, or Tallahassee, or Happy Valley....you could not replicate what Bama has done without Saban.
 

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My key takeaways from the CFP...

1. Stars matter
2. Saban is a genius.
3. There's Bama, OSU, and Clemson, then the rest.
 

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I've been looking up hidden meaning of slow as molasses LOL.

Sorry, was just kidding around. Found it funny you called out the only two white guys on OSU's defense. I did enjoy watching Werner get beat. Should have stayed Irish.
 

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Sorry, was just kidding around. Found it funny you called out the only two white guys on OSU's defense. I did enjoy watching Werner get beat. Should have stayed Irish.

And TBF, Borland probably is the slowest guy on that defense (incl the DL)
 

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Disagree. Otherwise, USC wouldn't be where they are. Coaching matters. Culture matters. It's not just the talent that he has at Bama (which is the best roster in the country), but he gets the most out of those players. Every. Single. Year. You could take all of the money they spend at Bama and put it in Knoxville, or Tallahassee, or Happy Valley....you could not replicate what Bama has done without Saban.

Larry Coker agrees with you.
 

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Lets be honest. Saban could leave and they could coach themselves. Studs all over the field. They could just play backyard football and draw up plays on the fly and be this good.

That’s what Miami’s players thought when Butch Davis left. It worked the first season under Grandpa Coker but unraveled after that. Process, culture & all those other buzzwords HC speak about actually matter.
 

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My key takeaways from the CFP...

1. Stars matter
2. Saban is a genius.
3. There's Bama, OSU, and Clemson, then the rest.

I think it’s Bama

Then it’s tOSU & Clemson

Then it’s everyone else to varying degrees.

UGA & LSU recruit well enough to be in the conversation but their coaching has held them back. Ari Wasserman of The Athletic stated that UGA had a better roster from top to bottom at each position than Alabama. Smart has failed w/ QB development & in game strategy. I’m not going to besmirch the guy and compare him to Les Miles at LSU b/c I think Smart is a better coach long term but he is likely doing the least w// the most talent.
 

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I think it’s Bama

Then it’s tOSU & Clemson

Then it’s everyone else to varying degrees.

UGA & LSU recruit well enough to be in the conversation but their coaching has held them back. Ari Wasserman of The Athletic stated that UGA had a better roster from top to bottom at each position than Alabama. Smart has failed w/ QB development & in game strategy. I’m not going to besmirch the guy and compare him to Les Miles at LSU b/c I think Smart is a better coach long term but he is likely doing the least w// the most talent.

I hate to agree with you about Smart, but I kinda have to. I really thought he'd tear it up at Georgia and turn them into a perennial powerhouse. He's a heck of a defensive mind, great recruiter, and seemed to completely buy into Saban's approach to The Process and its attention to detail and focus on the steps, not the result. And yet, he comes up noticeably short. I think Smart's a great example of the fact that being a HC and a coordinator are two VERY different jobs. There's just so much more involved with being a HC.
 
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