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2) Who's fault is that? All over the Internet (including here) you have people wanting to "see CNN burn" and "pay for their bias". But now it's surprising to see people giving out the home address where this man's family live? This is meme culture in its finest. The ignorant masses putting political memes over their own moral compass and it's happening in this very thread. Hell, Dakota loves it per his post above. Literally rooting on a mob outside a man's home where his family lives. It's pathetic.

Actions have consequences. You don't start shit with reddit or 4chan. Like seriously.... how dumb can a dude be?

Disclaimer: i don't want them to kill the guy or anything. Dude may want to consider the Golden Rule though next time he starts shit he clearly lacks the firepower to finish
 
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Actions have consequences. You don't start shit with reddit or 4chan. Like seriously.... how dumb can a dude be?

So getting in a "meme war" (feel ridiculous even typing that) makes an angry mob outside man's family's home is an acceptable consequence? Are you serious?

I find that interesting coming from someone that has posted some pretty sketchy stuff himself. Would you just throw it up to "consequences" if someone shared your numerous "native Americans are savages" comments with your local community and they started picketing outside your home? Or your mother's home? (Not sure if you moved out of her basement yet ;))
 

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1) Thanks? Seriously though... are we always gonna do this thing where you insult me without addressing any of my points? Cuz we can just ignore eachother as well. Me and YJ have been chatting on here a long time (both debate and friendly chatter) and trust me... he's a big boy. He doesn't need your backup.

2) Who's fault is that? All over the Internet (including here) you have people wanting to "see CNN burn" and "pay for their bias". But now it's surprising to see people giving out the home address where this man's family live? This is meme culture in its finest. The ignorant masses putting political memes over their own moral compass and it's happening in this very thread. Hell, Dakota loves it per his post above. Literally rooting on a mob outside a man's home where his family lives. It's pathetic.


Dude, I am glad to see you being against protesting at a person's home. I wish you would condemn this for those on the left as well like I did for both sides. PS: The left protests at people's homes had nothing to do with memes afaik, just their political stances.
 

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So getting in a "meme war" (feel ridiculous even typing that) makes an angry mob outside man's family's home is an acceptable consequence? Are you serious?

I find that interesting coming from someone that has posted some pretty sketchy stuff himself. Would you just throw it up to "consequences" if someone shared your numerous "native Americans are savages" comments with your local community and they started picketing outside your home? Or your mother's home? (Not sure if you moved out of her basement yet ;))

He didn't get in a meme war... He doxxed a dude. Because of a meme.

I'd get a kick out of it. Honestly. So would most people up this way.

I slept at mom and dad's this weekend... in the basement even. :)
 

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Making it personal is a problem. We the people are fighting an organization/corporation, not a face. It needs to be treated as such IMO. Protest outside their headquarters, not some dude's house.
 

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Without taking it to Godwin's Law levels, we have all been forced to do things we didn't agree with at work, and were "just following orders."

The guy receiving the ire of the public from CNN was probably thinking "this is effed up, but I need a job" while following said orders.
 

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Dude, I am glad to see you being against protesting at a person's home. I wish you would condemn this for those on the left as well like I did for both sides. PS: The left protests at people's homes had nothing to do with memes afaik, just their political stances.

Try reading my posts for once. I think I made it pretty clear I think it's wrong period. Didn't think it required a disclaimer that it goes for anyone, regardless of political party. I suppose in your world a pat on the back is required for any rare occasion where morals trump political affiliation. My apologies, but I just simply think that way as a norm.
 

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He didn't get in a meme war... He doxxed a dude. Because of a meme.

I'd get a kick out of it. Honestly. So would most people up this way.

I slept at mom and dad's this weekend... in the basement even. :)

I suppose we'll just disagree then. I think it's morally reprehensible to make a difference of opinion about, of all things, a meme into a reason to protest their home. Where there family lives.

Maybe you'll feel better when you're a grown up and have a family.
 

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Try reading my posts for once. I think I made it pretty clear I think it's wrong period. Didn't think it required a disclaimer that it goes for anyone, regardless of political party. I suppose in your world a pat on the back is required for any rare occasion where morals trump political affiliation. My apologies, but I just simply think that way as a norm.

Awww...that's so sweet and you just think that I insult you. Bless your heart!

2) Who's fault is that? All over the Internet (including here) you have people wanting to "see CNN burn" and "pay for their bias". But now it's surprising to see people giving out the home address where this man's family live? This is meme culture in its finest. The ignorant masses putting political memes over their own moral compass and it's happening in this very thread. Hell, Dakota loves it per his post above. Literally rooting on a mob outside a man's home where his family lives. It's pathetic.

Going over this again, your post seems to just be aimed at one side and not "it's wrong period" as you claim.

Have a nice day, big guy!
 

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Making it personal is a problem. We the people are fighting an organization/corporation, not a face. It needs to be treated as such IMO. Protest outside their headquarters, not some dude's house.

I think they should hit CNN as well as the employees responsible for hunting down the meme creator. You hit people at home fam. Any of you guys ever study the concept of total war?

I suppose we'll just disagree then. I think it's morally reprehensible to make a difference of opinion about, of all things, a meme into a reason to protest their home. Where there family lives.

Maybe you'll feel better when you're a grown up and have a family.

It's not about a meme. It's about doxxing a dude because he made a meme, then bragging about it...as long as the basement dwellers don't kill the guys family or something, fine with me.

He hit one of their people, now he knows how it feels. I would bet he doesn't do it again.

Yes we'll disagree... as usual. :)
 
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Awww...that's so sweet and you just think that I insult you. Bless your heart!



Going over this again, your post seems to just be aimed at one side and not "it's wrong period" as you claim.

Have a nice day, big guy!

How in the hell is that quote targeting one political side? I don't mention either side a single time and address the protesting. I mention how people on here wanted to "see CNN burn", but that is absolutely true. Nor is it blaming conservatives for anything. Again... I see people as themselves before their political party. I know that must be a novel concept for you.

Again... nowhere did I even address you with my comments. So if I'm so annoying to you, then put me on ignore. I'm happy to debate with YJ or Dakota. We disagree, but at least they can avoid getting all emotional like you.
 

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I think they should hit CNN as well as the employees responsible for hunting down the meme creator. You hit people at home fam. Any of you guys ever study the concept of total war?



It's not about a meme. It's about doxxing a dude because he made a meme, then bragging about it...as long as the basement dwellers don't kill the guys family or something, fine with me.

He hit one of their people, now he knows how it feels. I would bet he doesn't do it again.

I get the fact that he doxx'd him. It all started with a fuqing meme though. It's childish. What isn't childish is making a man's family have protesters outside his house. It's the same if people protested outside the meme creators home. That is dangerous and the victims aren't just the dude from CNN. It's his family. If they want to protest outside of his work, then cool. But an angry mob outside of his home is despicable.

Again... I didn't mean it facetiously before. You will feel much different about this when you have a family of your own. I think you would be quite upset if an angry mob showed up outside the home where your baby daughter lives. If you wouldn't, then you probably don't have a soul.
 

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I think they should hit CNN as well as the employees responsible for hunting down the meme creator. You hit people at home fam. Any of you guys ever study the concept of total war?



It's not about a meme. It's about doxxing a dude because he made a meme, then bragging about it...as long as the basement dwellers don't kill the guys family or something, fine with me.

He hit one of their people, now he knows how it feels. I would bet he doesn't do it again.

Right, b/c mob intimidation is really what we want deciding what is and what is not acceptable. CNN did a crappy thing, no question of that. But mob rule is setting a precedent that eventually leads people to actions like the physical destruction, err, protests, of conservative speakers on liberal campuses. That destruction and rule by mob force was wrong then and it's wrong now...especially when it's a private residence. At be honest, that is the next step here.
 

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Wooly doesn't like "snowflake" so I vote we start calling him a cuck. That should be maximum triggering.
 

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Wooly doesn't like "snowflake" so I vote we start calling him a cuck. That should be maximum triggering.



Not joining the prodding of Wooly, but the term "cuck" made me think of this. Saw it yesterday when 4chan was mobilizing the troops:


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How in the hell is that quote targeting one political side? I don't mention either side a single time and address the protesting. I mention how people on here wanted to "see CNN burn", but that is absolutely true. Nor is it blaming conservatives for anything. Again... I see people as themselves before their political party. I know that must be a novel concept for you.

Again... nowhere did I even address you with my comments. So if I'm so annoying to you, then put me on ignore. I'm happy to debate with YJ or Dakota. We disagree, but at least they can avoid getting all emotional like you.

You attacked this instance in specifics not protesting at people's homes in general as you seem to think. Also, you did it in response to my post. I am not quite sure how you think I am being any more emotional than you in this matter, but whatever. You keep asking to be ignored, but I do not have anyone on ignore on this site. Why would/should I? This is a political thread and different views have different effects on various posters, but this is a ND sports site first and foremost. Just because I disagree with you politically, doesn't mean I don't want to hear your on choice of WR in another thread. I don't dislike you, I don't dislike anyone on here...I just don't agree with everyone's views on various things.

"R E L A X" - Aaron Rodgers


EDIT: Yay...I see you did finally address it in general in post #223.
 
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I'll jump back in the mix later this evening. Gotta go help the GF with a new house she's having inspected, but wanted to say....

Like Wooly said, we are big boys and have no problem with each other. A matter of fact, I think I might have given him my cable log in to watch a recorded game in the past.... so yep, not a single problem with him. He's one of my favorite dudes here and he'd certainly be part of an Ultimate Tailgate if i could join any 10 IEers drinking beers pregame at ND. I just rep'd him yesterday in another thread. Politics aside, I'd be singing while he plays his guitar.
 
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Politics aside, I'd be singing while he plays his guitar.

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I'll jump back in the mix later this evening. Gotta go help the GF with a new house she's having inspected, but wanted to say....

Like Wooly said, we are big boys and have no problem with each other. A matter of fact, I think I might have given him my cable log in to watch a recorded game in the past.... so yep, not a single problem with him. He's one of my favorite dudes here and he'd certainly be part of an Ultimate Tailgate if i could join any 10 IEers drinking beers pregame at ND. I just rep'd him yesterday in another thread. Politics aside, I'd be singing while he plays his guitar.

I'd let Wooly partu with me.... If only to drink him under the table and draw cocks on his face.
 

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I'll jump back in the mix later this evening. Gotta go help the GF with a new house she's having inspected, but wanted to say....

Like Wooly said, we are big boys and have no problem with each other. A matter of fact, I think I might have given him my cable log in to watch a recorded game in the past.... so yep, not a single problem with him. He's one of my favorite dudes here and he'd certainly be part of an Ultimate Tailgate if i could join any 10 IEers drinking beers pregame at ND. I just rep'd him yesterday in another thread. Politics aside, I'd be singing while he plays his guitar.

I'm looking forward to that day too, homie?

Georgia '19?
 

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1) That's right Wooly, you win every argument on here and everyone who disagrees with you is probably a neocon or alt-right

2) Apparently someone posted Andrew's address online and there were protests at his house. This is definitely NOT OK and is just as wrong as the protests outside the homes of political figures as well (right or left)

Taking anything to a personal level is just plain scary. That's what CNN did by extorting the guy, and that's what happened to Andrew. Both are unacceptable. NoDk also speaks a bit of truth. Actions do have consequences, right or wrong. We've seen countless times on both sides, very bad mob-like behavior.

And I think we all know NoDk isn't wishing anyone harm. At the end of the day, hope the publicity around it is a learning exercise for all. I doubt it though.


Making it personal is a problem. We the people are fighting an organization/corporation, not a face. It needs to be treated as such IMO. Protest outside their headquarters, not some dude's house.

Yup. But I do hope the media (not just CNN) takes note what can happen when they pull stupid shit. To my comment yesterday, they see themselves as the sacred keepers of truth, but are nothing more than false elitist with an agenda and hunger for $$.

Without taking it to Godwin's Law levels, we have all been forced to do things we didn't agree with at work, and were "just following orders."

The guy receiving the ire of the public from CNN was probably thinking "this is effed up, but I need a job" while following said orders.

I really would like to understand the backstory here.

I suppose we'll just disagree then. I think it's morally reprehensible to make a difference of opinion about, of all things, a meme into a reason to protest their home. Where there family lives.

Maybe you'll feel better when you're a grown up and have a family.

I think we need to compare not the meme vs mob, but the doxing vs mob. Neither is something we need to defend. Both took it to levels it shouldn't have. And both are "wrong period".

The term "beta cuck" has been around for awhile now to describe men that are basically complete pussies.

Not fitting for Wooly. I can think of some other libs I'd like to stick that label on though lol.

I'd let Wooly partu with me.... If only to drink him under the table and draw cocks on his face.

I blew diet Coke threw my nose while driving on 285 when I read this. POY nomination.


I'm surprised CNN was not listed (Trigger Wooly lol).

I'm looking forward to that day too, homie?

Georgia '19?

Abso-f'ing-lutely brother.

Can't wait to see the drinking contest between you and Dakota lol. I'll furnish the sharpies to the victor.

PS,,, I was kidding about singing, unless you want to scare away some folks. But bring the guitar. I'll play percussion on some beer cans.
 

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I'm a little late to this, but here's an article by The Week's Matthew Walther titled "This hysterical CNN expose is everything wrong with contemporary journalism.":

CNN's Andrew Kaczynski's idea of putting in overtime is apparently harassing a loser who had made a joke at the expense of Kaczynski's employer.

In my years of connoisseurship, I doubt that I have ever come across a more perfect specimen of everything wrong with contemporary American journalism than the 1,229 hysterical words of "How CNN found the Reddit user behind the Trump wrestling GIF," published on July 4. It is flawless, from the headline, with its obscurantist faux-gravity — how many septuagenarians in Indiana would find in those words anything recognizable as English, much less as breaking news? — on down to its veil-lifting megalomaniacal threat of retribution against its subject:

CNN is not publishing "HanA**holeSolo's" name because he is a private citizen who has issued an extensive statement of apology, showed his remorse by saying he has taken down all his offending posts, and because he said he is not going to repeat this ugly behavior on social media again. In addition, he said his statement could serve as an example to others not to do the same.

CNN reserves the right to publish his identity should any of that change. [CNN]

Here is everything I have come to hate about reading the news: the preening hysteria concerning our boring president's meaningless utterances, the obsession with social media-related non-goings-on, the messianic sense of journalistic purpose, the cringe-inducing glibness, the sinister auto-obsession with journalistic procedure, the unquestioning willingness to destroy a reputation, the tacit acceptance of the idea that people who aren't woke should suffer financial and other privations, and, above all, the ill-concealed overpowering delight in extracting a confession. If you want to understand why some liberals are almost gleeful at the idea of Trump voters losing their health care, look no further.

The piece also confirms every criticism of the media made by President Trump himself. Let's start with the ridiculous premise upon which the justification for running the story in the first place rests: Namely, that by using a popular social media website to share an animated image of himself body-slamming the logo of a cable network superimposed onto the head of the chairman of World Wrestling Entertainment, Trump "encourages violence against reporters." Does any sentient adult believe this?

Wrestling memes are not inducements to violence, or to anything except more wrestling memes. They are dumb harmless jokes; dunking GIFs and Star Wars GIFs and Donkey Kong 64 GIFs and SpongeBob GIFs are everyone's common currency on the internet; the pamphlet wars of the founding or newspaper accounts of the Lincoln-Douglas debates they ain't, but they are the closest thing we have to a spontaneously developed argot for expressing our opinions about the issues of the day. When someone makes a joke about Paul Ryan and someone else responds with a LeBron dunk on an infinite loop, we know immediately what it means, and we laugh. No one walks away from the computer, books a flight to Reagan International Airport, hops on the metro to Capitol Hill, and starts performing superhuman feats of athleticism over the head of the speaker of the House.

HanA**holeSolo appears to be a racist and an anti-Semite. He is probably a nerd. He is almost certainly, well, an a**hole. That doesn't mean he should be threatened with the loss of reputation or his means of earning a living. Recognizing this is the difference between conceiving of food, water, shelter, and medical care as rights and thinking of them not so much as a reward for good behavior — the current GOP line — but as a privilege afforded to anyone willing to give public assent to a broad spectrum of clichés.

Sorry, folks: Racist nerd a**holes have rights too.
 
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