Marcus Freeman named Dick Corbett Head Football Coach

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[TorontoGold]

I wonder where Freeman ranks compared to other coaches? My very serious and well researched ranking:

Tier 1 - Winners
1) Kirby
2) Dabo

Tier 2 - Future winners
3) Lanning
4) Sark
5) Freeman
6) Day
7) Deboer

Tier 3 - Generally stable winners "Local steakhouse -nice for a good meal if you can't head into the City for better"
8) Franklin
9) Kiffin
10) BK
11) Riley

Tier 4 - Could be really fun if they caught the right situation "The crazy chick you think you could calm down" and Kyle Whittingham
12) Drinkwitz
13) Heupel
14) Norvell
15) Whittingham
16) Deion

Tier 5 - DBags who have won before just Cignetti he'll tell you and Mike Elko.
17) Shane Beamer
18) Cristobal
19) Cignetti
20) Elko

Notable exceptions: Lance Leipold (Cool you won 9 games at Kansas are 102 years old), Venables (Thank you for sinking Oklahoma), Chris Klieman (actually good coach), Kirk Ferentz (wow you coached a long time congrats), Mike Gundy (see Kirk Ferentz)

Loser cowards etc. ranking
1) Nard Dog
2) Matt "I don't play to win championships, I play to have best Iowa State team I can" Campbell
3) Sherrone Moore

 

[DONTH8]

I wonder where Freeman ranks compared to other coaches? My very serious and well researched ranking:

Tier 1 - Winners
1) Kirby
2) Dabo

Tier 2 - Future winners
3) Lanning
4) Sark
5) Freeman
6) Day
7) Deboer

Tier 3 - Generally stable winners "Local steakhouse -nice for a good meal if you can't head into the City for better"
8) Franklin
9) Kiffin
10) BK
11) Riley

Tier 4 - Could be really fun if they caught the right situation "The crazy chick you think you could calm down" and Kyle Whittingham
12) Drinkwitz
13) Heupel
14) Norvell
15) Whittingham
16) Deion

Tier 5 - DBags who have won before just Cignetti he'll tell you and Mike Elko.
17) Shane Beamer
18) Cristobal
19) Cignetti
20) Elko

Notable exceptions: Lance Leipold (Cool you won 9 games at Kansas are 102 years old), Venables (Thank you for sinking Oklahoma), Chris Klieman (actually good coach), Kirk Ferentz (wow you coached a long time congrats), Mike Gundy (see Kirk Ferentz)

Loser cowards etc. ranking
1) Nard Dog
2) Matt "I don't play to win championships, I play to have best Iowa State team I can" Campbell
3) Sherrone Moore

I assume Rhule would have to be somewhere on this list.... tier 3 or 4 probably.

 

[Bane]

 

[RipWheeler]

I assume Rhule would have to be somewhere on this list.... tier 3 or 4 probably.

Don’t forget Mr. Row the Boat 🛶

 

[Rasputin]

I wonder where Freeman ranks compared to other coaches? My very serious and well researched ranking:

Tier 1 - Winners
1) Kirby
2) Dabo

Tier 2 - Future winners
3) Lanning
4) Sark
5) Freeman
6) Day
7) Deboer

Tier 3 - Generally stable winners "Local steakhouse -nice for a good meal if you can't head into the City for better"
8) Franklin
9) Kiffin
10) BK
11) Riley

Tier 4 - Could be really fun if they caught the right situation "The crazy chick you think you could calm down" and Kyle Whittingham
12) Drinkwitz
13) Heupel
14) Norvell
15) Whittingham
16) Deion

Tier 5 - DBags who have won before just Cignetti he'll tell you and Mike Elko.
17) Shane Beamer
18) Cristobal
19) Cignetti
20) Elko

Notable exceptions: Lance Leipold (Cool you won 9 games at Kansas are 102 years old), Venables (Thank you for sinking Oklahoma), Chris Klieman (actually good coach), Kirk Ferentz (wow you coached a long time congrats), Mike Gundy (see Kirk Ferentz)

Loser cowards etc. ranking
1) Nard Dog
2) Matt "I don't play to win championships, I play to have best Iowa State team I can" Campbell
3) Sherrone Moore

This is an excellent start but is anybody else interested in having @TorontoGold finish up Tiers 6 through 20, especially the analogy descriptions? If Tier 4 is already at "crazy chick", one's mind wonders what Tier 17 might be described as. Flaming dumpsters floating down a river? Fist-fighting Karens? Get on it, man.

 

[Fbolt]

I'm all into Tier 4 Crazy Chicks I can manage. No idea about the coaches though....

 

[irishnd31]

This is an excellent start but is anybody else interested in having @TorontoGold finish up Tiers 6 through 20, especially the analogy descriptions? If Tier 4 is already at "crazy chick", one's mind wonders what Tier 17 might be described as. Flaming dumpsters floating down a river? Fist-fighting Karens? Get on it, man.

What level is syphilis infested street walking crack ho?

 

[FDNYIrish1]

What level is syphilis infested street walking crack ho?

Gerhard Porker better be in this tier

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

Was Just looking at some of the numbers after having scoped through this thread's recent posts.

Kirk Ferentz became Iowa HC in 1999. He has 204 wins. Most among active coaches.

Dabo became Clemson HC in 2009 and he has 180 wins. Second among active coaches.

Third with 175 wins: Brian Kelly.

 

[NDpendent]

Freeman is amongst the elite coaches in Notre Dame history with his win percentage. I took out coaches that coached fewer then 20 games. Pretty crazy after starting out 0-3.

	Seasons	W	L	T	W%	Titles
Knute Rockne	13	105	12	5	88.1%	3
Jesse Harper	5	34	5	1	86.3%
Leahy	11	87	11	9	85.5%	4
Parseghian	11	95	17	4	83.6%	2
Freeman	3	33	9		78.6%
Layden	7	47	13	3	77.0%
Holtz	11	100	30	2	76.5%	1
Devine	6	53	16	1	76.4%	1
Pat O'Dea	2	14	4	2	75.0%
Kelly	12	113	40		73.9%
Brennan	5	32	18		64.0%
Anderson	3	16	9	2	63.0%
Davie	5	35	25		58.3%
Willingham	3	21	15		58.3%
Weis	12	113	40		56.5%
Faust	5	35	25		53.5%
Kuharich	4	17	23		42.5%

 

[NDRock]

Freeman is amongst the elite coaches in Notre Dame history with his win percentage. I took out coaches that coached fewer then 20 games. Pretty crazy after starting out 0-3.

	Seasons	W	L	T	W%	Titles
Knute Rockne	13	105	12	5	88.1%	3
Jesse Harper	5	34	5	1	86.3%
Leahy	11	87	11	9	85.5%	4
Parseghian	11	95	17	4	83.6%	2
Freeman	3	33	9		78.6%
Layden	7	47	13	3	77.0%
Holtz	11	100	30	2	76.5%	1
Devine	6	53	16	1	76.4%	1
Pat O'Dea	2	14	4	2	75.0%
Kelly	12	113	40		73.9%
Brennan	5	32	18		64.0%
Anderson	3	16	9	2	63.0%
Davie	5	35	25		58.3%
Willingham	3	21	15		58.3%
Weis	12	113	40		56.5%
Faust	5	35	25		53.5%
Kuharich	4	17	23		42.5%

Weis lasted a long time with that winning percentage.

 

[Pops Freshenmeyer]

Weis lasted a long time with that winning percentage.

There's something wrong with the data. Weis only lasted five years and went 35-27 (the 56.5% is correct though).

 

[NDVirginia19]

I wonder where Freeman ranks compared to other coaches? My very serious and well researched ranking:

Tier 1 - Winners
1) Kirby
2) Dabo

Tier 2 - Future winners
3) Lanning
4) Sark
5) Freeman
6) Day
7) Deboer

Tier 3 - Generally stable winners "Local steakhouse -nice for a good meal if you can't head into the City for better"
8) Franklin
9) Kiffin
10) BK
11) Riley

Tier 4 - Could be really fun if they caught the right situation "The crazy chick you think you could calm down" and Kyle Whittingham
12) Drinkwitz
13) Heupel
14) Norvell
15) Whittingham
16) Deion

Tier 5 - DBags who have won before just Cignetti he'll tell you and Mike Elko.
17) Shane Beamer
18) Cristobal
19) Cignetti
20) Elko

Notable exceptions: Lance Leipold (Cool you won 9 games at Kansas are 102 years old), Venables (Thank you for sinking Oklahoma), Chris Klieman (actually good coach), Kirk Ferentz (wow you coached a long time congrats), Mike Gundy (see Kirk Ferentz)

Loser cowards etc. ranking
1) Nard Dog
2) Matt "I don't play to win championships, I play to have best Iowa State team I can" Campbell
3) Sherrone Moore

I didn't realize Colin Cowherd was Canadian

 

[NDRock]

There's something wrong with the data. Weis only lasted five years and went 35-27 (the 56.5% is correct though).

Yeah, obvious typo. Though the 2007 season did seem to take a decade off my life.

 

[Huntr]

Weis has Kelly data

 

[Pointman02]

There’s also something off in Faust’s data. 35-25 would be 58.3%.

 

[Terry Jillery]

 

[Dale]

 

[Dale]

I don’t think I saw the Rooney Rule mentioned as a possible reason the Bears may want to interview Freeman

 

[stlnd01]

I don’t think I saw the Rooney Rule mentioned as a possible reason the Bears may want to interview Freeman

If they just want to check the box and then make their hire, there are faster ways to go than waiting for Freeman to have time for an in-person.
Maybe that’s what they’re up to because no way they hire Eddie George.

 

[china423]

I don’t think I saw the Rooney Rule mentioned as a possible reason the Bears may want to interview Freeman

They're interviewing Eddie George today and already interviewed Ron Rivera. I think it's going to be either Ben Johnson or McCarthy.

 

[stlnd01]

They're interviewing Eddie George today and already interviewed Ron Rivera. I think it's going to be either Ben Johnson or McCarthy.

The rules are the rules but it's kind of silly that interviewing a guy who has spent 13 seasons as an NFL head coach qualifies under a rule supposedly intended to give head coaching opportunities to people who haven't had them.

 

[DillonHall]

How has the Rooney Rule not been challenged in the courts yet?

 

[NDRock]

How has the Rooney Rule not been challenged in the courts yet?

I assume because the owners agreed to it?

 

[DillonHall]

I assume because the owners agreed to it?

Probably because every white owner and coach is scared to be called racist if they complain about it. If anything, it's offensive to minority coaches who are being interviewed just to satisfy the requirement. In what world is Eddie George a qualified candidate for an NFL head coaching job?

 

[stlnd01]

How has the Rooney Rule not been challenged in the courts yet?

What would the grounds for a lawsuit be, exactly? The NFL's basically a company whose owners agreed to this as an HR policy. No one's constitutional rights are being deprived. And it obviously hasn't stopped NFL teams from overwhelmingly hiring white coaches.

Edit: Your point that it is more offensive to Black coaches than anything else is right on. The Bears are clearly just going through the motions here. But, again, that's not something you can really sue over.

 

[Bane]

Probably because every white owner and coach is scared to be called racist if they complain about it. If anything, it's offensive to minority coaches who are being interviewed just to satisfy the requirement. In what world is Eddie George a qualified candidate for an NFL head coaching job?

In theory, it is supposed to help minority coaches by allowing them access to interviews and networking opportunities they otherwise, theoretically, wouldn't have available to them. They might interview for a gig under the rule, not get it that time, but impress the team so much that they get the job later on, or get plugged into the network, and get offered a different job.

In reality, it is used very cynically as check in the boxes . It's one thing to interview a guy like Aaron Glenn, who is a serious candidate for many jobs, it's another to call up Eddie George and interview him.

 

[DillonHall]

What would the grounds for a lawsuit be, exactly? The NFL's basically a company whose owners agreed to this as an HR policy. No one's constitutional rights are being deprived. And it obviously hasn't stopped NFL teams from overwhelmingly hiring white coaches.

Edit: Your point that it is more offensive to Black coaches than anything else is right on. The Bears are clearly just going through the motions here. But, again, that's not something you can really sue over.

I pictured something similar to affirmative action being reversed by the Supreme Court regarding college admissions