Marcus Freeman named Dick Corbett Head Football Coach

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OhioIrish said:
Marcus is still the guy for this job. But, I hope this game puts to rest any more rationalizations that his recruiting efforts are good enough. We MUST have top 5 classes every year. Period. He has absolutely not stockpiled enough talent. I think he can, though.
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Yeah he needs to make sure half the defense doesn't get hurt so we have to play 2 NFL WRs in the NCG with a MASH unit after winning 3 playoff games. If he can't do that he needs to go.
 
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OhioIrish said:
Marcus is still the guy for this job. But, I hope this game puts to rest any more rationalizations that his recruiting efforts are good enough. We MUST have top 5 classes every year. Period. He has absolutely not stockpiled enough talent. I think he can, though.
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This is fine if it’s not the NIL era but we need to allow Freeman to succeed. ND has the alumni base and even bigger subway alumni base. They’re self penalizing themselves from not diving in head first to it and doing what it takes to get the premier talent that is a fit
 
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IrishTusker said:
I would say that this meltdown undoes any goodwill. Losing in a competitive game is one thing; to be destroyed in this way is embarrassing. We're as far from a title as ever, unfortunately.
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I wouldn’t go that far. OSU got housed worse than this a few years ago by Bama — it was a bloodbath. But, they eventually evolved. Marcus has shown that he can evolve.
 
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Dale said:
I’ll say I am pretty shocked we went uber conservative game plan all around.

That comes from Freeman
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I think they followed the playback of teams that skowed down OSU this year. I think the biggest takeaway is that Chip Kelly finally learned and Howard played lights out. The only path for ND was if Howard and Kelly panicked. They didn't, so here we are.
 
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Freeman has learned through mistakes a lot in 3 years.

He will regret the conservative game plan that produced that 2Q, on offense and defense, for a while
 
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Yeah he needs to make sure half the defense doesn't get hurt so we have to play 2 NFL WRs in the NCG with a MASH unit after winning 3 playoff games. If he can't do that he needs to go.
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These are exactly the type of rationalizations I am referring to. We did not have the talent to compete with this team for 4 quarters. Its best to admit it and fix it and not delude yourself that injuries were the issue tonight.
 
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It was bleak. This fucking stings. But the boys never quit. Freeman will bring us home a Natty. Don't you guys dare doubt it. Go Irish.
 
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I lot of this loss is on the coaches, period.

I have no idea who is to blame for completely abandoning our rush crazy defense which created chaos and turnovers all year.

Also why was our worst defensive back in Gray #29 allowed to be on an island mutiple times with their best receiver in Smith #4? Before the game I said we would lose if we allowed this. How can professional level coaches allow this?

So I’m not sure who deserves the blame, Freeman, Golden, Or Denbrock. But it seems Freeman deserves the ultimate weight as the head coach for allowing this approach or designing it.

Hopefully he can continue to learn and grow as a head coach, because this one seems to be on him.
 
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bobbyok1 said:
I lot of this loss is on the coaches, period.

I have no idea who is to blame for completely abandoning our rush crazy defense which created chaos and turnovers all year.

Also why was our worst defensive back in Gray #29 allowed to be on an island mutiple times with their best receiver in Smith #4? Before the game I said we would lose if we allowed this. How can professional level coaches allow this?

We also went conservative on offense as well for much of the game until we were behind.

So I’m not sure who deserves the blame, Freeman, Golden, Or Denbrock. But it seems Freeman deserves the ultimate weight as the head coach for allowing this approach or designing it.

Hopefully he can continue to learn and grow as a head coach, because this one seems to be on him.
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On the flip side, under our previous head coach, the team folds at halftime 10 times out of 10. We all saw that happen over and over for a decade. Last night we didn't fold, we fought back. That's a credit to the coaching and culture (which is also coaching).

Likewise I have no real problem with our offensive gameplan (except perhaps for not finding ways to get the ball to Love in space, unless he was hurt worse than we knew). The defense, though, was outschemed in key spots and seemed to play softer than I expected. Not sure why, though at some point the injuries were bound to catch up to us.
 
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bobbyok1 said:
I lot of this loss is on the coaches, period.

I have no idea who is to blame for completely abandoning our rush crazy defense which created chaos and turnovers all year.

Also why was our worst defensive back in Gray #29 allowed to be on an island mutiple times with their best receiver in Smith #4? Before the game I said we would lose if we allowed this. How can professional level coaches allow this?

We also went conservative on offense as well for much of the game until we were behind.

So I’m not sure who deserves the blame, Freeman, Golden, Or Denbrock. But it seems Freeman deserves the ultimate weight as the head coach for allowing this approach or designing it.

Hopefully he can continue to learn and grow as a head coach, because this one seems to be on him.
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Conservative game plan on offense? What game were you watching?
 
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bobbyok1 said:
I have no idea who is to blame for completely abandoning our rush crazy defense which created chaos and turnovers all year.

Also why was our worst defensive back in Gray #29 allowed to be on an island mutiple times with their best receiver in Smith #4? Before the game I said we would lose if we allowed this. How can professional level coaches allow this?
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So you want a rush heavy defense sending extra men to blitz, with double coverage on Ohio State receivers
 
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Healthy OSU/NFL O-Line now synchronized vs massively damaged ND D-Line glued together .... hmmm.... wonder what could have gone wrong?

Hmmm..... wonder what coach could have fixed that?

What we needed (by a miracle) were a bunch more high-quality D-Linemen "recruited." (We HAVE had some line-ups in the recent past which have had as many as two-and-a-half very serviceable D-Lines [c.10 athletes] to rotate in all season. NOT impossible, but this year? Too thin; too unlucky.)
 
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LifelongFan said:
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So you want a rush heavy defense sending extra men to blitz, with double coverage on Ohio State receivers
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First I wasn't suggesting a physically impossible defensive scheme of a heavy rush and double coverage on OSU receivers. So, go ahead and keep that ridiculous suggestion.

What I was suggesting was why could we have not done one or two things differently? Such as:

1. Staying true to who we've been all year to get us to the title game. A rush-heavy defensive scheme. Then, take our chances with our DBs on their WRs, hoping we could create enough chaos to rattle Howard in the pocket. We played the entire first half with no adjustments, watching them march the ball down the field with a vanilla, low-pressure scheme. If we didn't start the game with our normal scheme, why not adapt back to it after 1, 2, or 3 TDs from OSU?

2. I wasn't suggesting pairing double teams with a heavy rush, I was asking a legitimate question about why we allowed Gray to be on an island against Jeremiah Smith so often and in key game-changing moments. So, I understand Gray is the Field Corner, and Leonard Moore is the Boundary Corner. But, when Jeremiah Smith was lined up on the field side of the ball, was there no other scheme we could run that would keep Moore on him, or someone other than Gray, to keep one of our lowest-performing DBs from being matched up with their best WR? Especially on the game-deciding play late in the 4th?
 
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