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To be fair, I was down on Skow coming in. He totally blew me away on Saturday. Not saying he's all world or anything, but he totally stomped on my low expectations. Great ball tracking and fight for contested balls.

He and Meyer are the only guys thus far to look the part. Need to keep riding that train. I think Tyree out of the slot could be killer, or a z-like motion guy, but that's projected hope more than anything.

Bottom line, spread it out, make them defend the whole field. I think we could run some pretty good rubs across the middle with Javon and Tremble too.

Just a friendly reminder we shouldn’t doubt any kid from Fort Wayne and their ability to contribute for the Irish. Hands down our best hit rate on production from a location stand point with the entire state of Hawaii giving it a run for its money. Hell even look at Keirmaier in the World Series right now.
 

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Yeah we will agree on the last part but I cant think of many drops from Avery. Whereas others like Tremble and Wilkins have dropped a few this season.

I didn't say he dropped anything. Just not consistent in separation/routes. I know he was a QB so he should know the routes, just not sure how natural it is for him yet.

Mayer scares me in the way only Jaylon Smith ever has. They make me feel inadequate as a male of our species.

He's a bad, bad, man. Hard to believe he's a frosh. That vid call from Gronk was funny AF.
 

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Just a friendly reminder we shouldn’t doubt any kid from Fort Wayne and their ability to contribute for the Irish. Hands down our best hit rate on production from a location stand point with the entire state of Hawaii giving it a run for its money. Hell even look at Keirmaier in the World Series right now.

Homestead is ranked pretty well this year too right? Back in my day, it was Dwenger that was tough.
 

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See, I don't believe he manages the game consistently well. Not throwing INT's isn't the only way to gauge how well he's managing the game. Taking unnecessary sacks, missing easy completions, not attempting the big throws or refusing to throw certain passes, etc. All of that is a part of managing the offense and he struggles to consistently do those things. Backing up S's is an important part of managing the offense. Getting 3 or 4 yards on a check down versus 2-3 yard sack, is part of managing the offense. Throwing routes on time so players have a chance for after the catch is part of managing the offense. At this point in his career, he's not calling the offense and has virtually no pre-snap responsibilities. Not throwing picks is a crazy low bar for a 5th year Senior.

I would much rather Book have 3 or 4 INT's on the season, if it meant his yards/avg was consistently 8.5+ with more games pushing or over 10+. If the offense is close to midfield and S's are being aggressive in the run game, take the damn shot 30-40 yards downfield. Refusing to back up S's because of refusal to throw those passes, also has consequences over the course of a game.

60% comp pct isn't really that good. Never having a game, against those defenses, over 65% comp pct is a serious problem. Again, if he was pushing some limits of really good to elite status more often, and his down games for still good then I don't think we are talking about this. But, he's putting too few really good games together and some of his bad performances aren't starting QB worthy.

No one could have said it better!
 

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I need to totally eat crow for doubting Skow when we first picked him up. Hope it's more than a one game flash. Watching his highlights from NW, I don't recall seeing the same type of play. I know he was hurt last year, but he had decent/medium yards in his two prior years. Some of those catches Saturday were really nice. The adjustments on one was crazy good.

Yea, I'd love Tyree in space. I'd let Williams and CBo run the rock the most. Any type of satellite snaps/targets to Tyree would awesome. I really wish AD would have some break out snags from slot, just not sure he's near as dynamic as I thought he might be.

IIRC he had one or two tough catches against ND a couple of years ago.
 

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">October 27 - Testing Update <a href="https://t.co/nDrVILhR0P">pic.twitter.com/nDrVILhR0P</a></p>— Notre Dame Football PR Team (@NDFootballPR) <a href="https://twitter.com/NDFootballPR/status/1321059069386477569?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 27, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

2 positives, neither traveled to Pitt
 

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I didn't say he dropped anything. Just not consistent in separation/routes. I know he was a QB so he should know the routes, just not sure how natural it is for him yet.



He's a bad, bad, man. Hard to believe he's a frosh. That vid call from Gronk was funny AF.
You know that wasn't to Mike though but to the rhino at a zoo
 

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">October 27 - Testing Update <a href="https://t.co/nDrVILhR0P">pic.twitter.com/nDrVILhR0P</a></p>— Notre Dame Football PR Team (@NDFootballPR) <a href="https://twitter.com/NDFootballPR/status/1321059069386477569?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 27, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

2 positives, neither traveled to Pitt

Wonder if that was why JJ didn't travel?
 

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I think Avery looks the part. Looks fast'ish with good hands.

Yep. Slot is his home. And he has made a few clutch catches. Off the top of my head the TD against Duke and he also had a nice 3rd catch on a beautifully run route.

IDK. Doesn't seem consistent to me. Pitt was his best game though, so maybe he's ready to emerge. Maybe I'm just gun shy because of all the positions changes the last few years. I mean, QB to RB to CB to NB to WR... That's a lot of shuffle for anyone.

I think Davis had really emerged in the absence of Keys, which would make sense as he would be getting more reps. And every time he runs the ball on a jet sweep he pops it for 10 yards. I'm just waiting for him to throw the ball on one of those...possibly throw back to Book...
 

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Yep. Slot is his home. And he has made a few clutch catches. Off the top of my head the TD against Duke and he also had a nice 3rd catch on a beautifully run route.

I think Davis had really emerged in the absence of Keys, which would make sense as he would be getting more reps. And every time he runs the ball on a jet sweep he pops it for 10 yards. I'm just waiting for him to throw the ball on one of those...possibly throw back to Book...

Yep, hope it was just a reps thing. I've been thinking about the passing gimmick since he swapped positions again. I think they'd save that for a Clemson type game. Not so sure the jet sweeps will work though vs some better Ds. He's only done that once I think vs a trash D (Louisville).
 

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Yep, hope it was just a reps thing. I've been thinking about the passing gimmick since he swapped positions again. I think they'd save that for a Clemson type game. Not so sure the jet sweeps will work though vs some better Ds. He's only done that once I think vs a trash D (Louisville).
Yep. Davis throwing a pass you hold that for Clemson. True he has only had one jet sweep. But, those pop passes where he comes in motion is basically the same concept.
 

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Yep. Davis throwing a pass you hold that for Clemson. True he has only had one jet sweep. But, those pop passes where he comes in motion is basically the same concept.

Yea, I'm not picky how the production comes. The one area I thought he'd be better at is the longer routes. Not sure if he's not as fast as I thought he was, still needing route polishing, or what.
 

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Book needs to hit Davis downfield more. He was wide open down the seam against Pitt and Book missed him. They like to run deep posts and seam routes with him so that would be the next step for this duo. Targeting him more downfield when he gets matched up on LB's or S's.
 

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Yep. Davis throwing a pass you hold that for Clemson. True he has only had one jet sweep. But, those pop passes where he comes in motion is basically the same concept.

I think they did that to show Clemson that they have this in their bag of tricks. How much you want to bet the motion something off of this same set up. Clemson and BV will recognize the formation, and might over play it.
 

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Book needs to hit Davis downfield more. He was wide open down the seam against Pitt and Book missed him. They like to run deep posts and seam routes with him so that would be the next step for this duo. Targeting him more downfield when he gets matched up on LB's or S's.

I don't see Book ever being good at seam verts or posts. Maybe a post corner or sail route breaking outside the seam. It's like Book needs and angle. IDK>
 

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Book needs to hit Davis downfield more. He was wide open down the seam against Pitt and Book missed him. They like to run deep posts and seam routes with him so that would be the next step for this duo. Targeting him more downfield when he gets matched up on LB's or S's.

I think they did that to show Clemson that they have this in their bag of tricks. How much you want to bet the motion something off of this same set up. Clemson and BV will recognize the formation, and might over play it.

Also waiting to see what they're setting up with Tyree motioning into the backfield from the slot.

Triple option???

Throwback???

Or maybe let him stay in the slot and run an actual route???
 

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Also waiting to see what they're setting up with Tyree motioning into the backfield from the slot.

Triple option???

Throwback???

Or maybe let him stay in the slot and run an actual route???

He would be scary as hell on a wheel route if you can confuse the defense.
 

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Golic calling the game tomorrow if you didn't know.

And Saturday’s assignment hits home, even though the game between No. 4 Notre Dame (5-0, 4-0 ACC) and Georgia Tech (2-4, 2-3) will take place on the brand new synthetic turf at Bobby Dodd Stadium in Atlanta.

Kickoff is 3:30 EDT. ABC has the telecast.

It’ll be the first time Golic serves as an on-air analyst for an Irish football game since doing so during Tyrone Willingham’s first year as ND’s head coach, a 21-14 Irish road win at Air Force in 2002.

https://www.indystar.com/story/spor...-sr-set-tv-gig-ponders-whats-next/6087345002/
 

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Bill Connelly just published an article at ESPN about the greatest remaining obstacles for each playoff contender:

Notre Dame

Record: 6-0
Rank: Sixth in FPI, seventh in SP+

Ian Book has mastered the art of fine quarterback play. Good, even. He ranked 12th in Total QBR while helping to guide Notre Dame to the CFP in 2018, then ranked 19th last year. This year he's 17th.

Is that good enough for a contender, though? With each passing year, college football becomes more of a quarterback-driven sport. The other three playoff QBs in 2018 ranked first (Kyler Murray), second (Tua Tagovailoa) and eighth (a freshman Trevor Lawrence) in Total QBR. Last year's CFP QBs all ranked in the top five, and the pilots of this year's top three teams are currently first (Justin Fields), second (Jones) and seventh (Lawrence).
Can Ian Book make the necessary big passes when Notre Dame takes on Clemson in the biggest regular-season game of his senior year?
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The biggest regular-season game of Book's senior year comes interestingly timed. Notre Dame will host Uiagalelei's Clemson, not Lawrence's, meaning Book is the most proven and experienced QB in the game. To reach the CFP, the Irish will have to probably split two matchups with the Tigers, but this is the moment for Notre Dame.

The Irish have been extremely run-heavy so far this year (22nd in run rate on standard downs, ninth on passing downs), but you don't beat Clemson with one-dimensional play. Can Book make big passes when necessary -- to Javon McKinley or Ben Skowronek for a field-flipping gain, to tight ends Michael Mayer and Tommy Tremble or receiver Avery Davis on big third downs? Notre Dame's defense is dynamite, ranking eighth in defensive SP+ and holding five of six opponents to 13 or fewer points. But you have to score to beat Clemson, and Book's recent track record against top-notch defenses -- a 69.7 passer rating against Michigan in 2019, 83.7 against Clemson in 2018, 116.4 against Georgia in 2019 -- is not great. Now's the time to change that
 

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Posted this in the Skunkbear thread, but it's appropriate here too:

Me said:
After today's win against Clemson and Michigan's loss to lolIU:

All Time Winning Percentages
ND: 0.7291178766588603
Michigan: 0.728486646884273

ND back to #2!...Behind of course the new #1...
tOSU: 0.7300918836140888

Buckeyes need to return to 80s form...
 

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A total of 258 COVID-19 tests were administered to Notre Dame Football student-athletes last week (Tuesday-Sunday). Of those 258, there were two positive tests, according to University Physician Dr. Matt Leiszler. Those student-athletes are in isolation and two close contacts were identified. None of the student-athletes who tested positive or were identified as close contacts were in attendance for Saturday's game against Clemson. Af of Monday, Nov. 9, a total of two players are currently in isolation, while there are two players in quarantine as a result of having been identified as close contacts.

https://247sports.com/college/notre...ll-COVID-19-Results-For-November-9-154536878/

And in about a hour;

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Tune in tonight to watch <a href="https://twitter.com/Ian_Book12?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Ian_Book12</a> on <a href="https://twitter.com/SportsCenter?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@SportsCenter</a>! <br><br>You don’t want to miss it. <br><br>⏰ 11:00 p.m. ET <br>&#55357;&#56570; ESPN <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/GoIrish?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#GoIrish</a> x <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/BeatEagles?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#BeatEagles</a> <a href="https://t.co/BirniIrFQP">pic.twitter.com/BirniIrFQP</a></p>— Notre Dame Football (@NDFootball) <a href="https://twitter.com/NDFootball/status/1325993111315746816?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 10, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 

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So, I'm trying to figure out if ND needs to win out to guarantee a spot in the ACC Championship game. Can someone shed some light on this? If ND loses one game (to any of the 4 remaining opponents) and Clemson and Miami both win out, is there a scenario in which ND could get left out of the ACC Championship game with only 1 loss or would they have to lose twice in order to possibly get left out?
 

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was wondering the same thing. from what I can gather it would've been really nice if Miami lost last weekend.
 

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If I remember correctly it is based on winning percentage. This could get skewed based on the possibility of teams missing games due to covid.
 
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