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[Polish Leppy 22]

Can't imagine that a spring schedule, even an abbreviated one would work for several reasons.

1. Players are playing two seasons pretty close together, with not a lot of time to recuperate.
2. Players that are seniors might sit out spring to avoid injury and risk getting drafted.
3. Some juniors who already have thoughts of declaring after the coming season may opt to sit it out.
4. Rosters could be significantly reduced with a lot less depth if #1 and #2 happen.
5. B1G teams like Wiscy. Minn, Iowa, scUM and Nebraska don't want to be playing in February.
6. Games in February would probably have very low attendance. Schools need the revenue.

Could a push for a spring season be to avoid the scholarship issues they already have for the fall sports that were cancelled?

All good points. I would add

7. This virus has a 99% survival rate, and college kids are on the lower end of risk as a whole. Let them play.

8. A lot of these schools (Ivy removed) are in BIG trouble financially if there is no fall football.

 

[dublinirish]

All good points. I would add

7. This virus has a 99% survival rate, and college kids are on the lower end of risk as a whole. Let them play.

8. A lot of these schools (Ivy removed) are in BIG trouble financially if there is no fall football.

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[Irish#1]

All good points. I would add

7. This virus has a 99% survival rate, and college kids are on the lower end of risk as a whole. Let them play.

8. A lot of these schools (Ivy removed) are in BIG trouble financially if there is no fall football.

It will be a major blow. The FB program either pays for other sports or at least offsets some of the cost to have a program.

Listening to Doug Gottlieb, while many schools have big endowments those are typically used strictly for the academic side. I would venture to say many have provisions where it prohibits endowment money from being used for athletics.

The home games and particularly homecoming is where a lot of the hand twisting for donations happens. Without that, the money is going to be tough to come by.

 

[Polish Leppy 22]

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IF THE STUDENT ATHLETE DOESN'T WANT TO PLAY THEY DON'T HAVE TO.

Let the kid sign a waiver/ legal doc saying they're sitting out 2020 if they choose, and they don't lose a year of eligibility.

 

[Some Irish Bloke]

IF THE STUDENT ATHLETE DOESN'T WANT TO PLAY THEY DON'T HAVE TO.

Let the kid sign a waiver/ legal doc saying they're sitting out 2020 if they choose, and they don't lose a year of eligibility.

On the eligibility front, if the season is indeed cancelled, does that mean guys like Book who are already redshirt Seniors would see their eligibility expire? Or do you see them getting a 6th year if they choose to do so?

If everyone did maintain a season of eligibility, don't you think the NCAA would have to bend the scholarship limit for 2021 to account for all of the graduate players still on scholly as well as the incoming freshman class? You'd be looking at 100+ scholarships.

 

[dublinirish]

IF THE STUDENT ATHLETE DOESN'T WANT TO PLAY THEY DON'T HAVE TO.

Let the kid sign a waiver/ legal doc saying they're sitting out 2020 if they choose, and they don't lose a year of eligibility.

can see that happening loads at Clemson, OSU etc

 

[Polish Leppy 22]

On the eligibility front, if the season is indeed cancelled, does that mean guys like Book who are already redshirt Seniors would see their eligibility expire? Or do you see them getting a 6th year if they choose to do so?

If everyone did maintain a season of eligibility, don't you think the NCAA would have to bend the scholarship limit for 2021 to account for all of the graduate players still on scholly as well as the incoming freshman class? You'd be looking at 100+ scholarships.

Good question. My guess is the NCAA would grant that 6th year and bend the scholly limit for 2021.

Ian Book would return for a 6th year because he needs a really good year to get a sniff at the NFL. Liam Eichenberg will be training/ prepping for the NFL combine/ draft because he's probably a first rounder.

 

[Irish#1]

On the eligibility front, if the season is indeed cancelled, does that mean guys like Book who are already redshirt Seniors would see their eligibility expire? Or do you see them getting a 6th year if they choose to do so?

If everyone did maintain a season of eligibility, don't you think the NCAA would have to bend the scholarship limit for 2021 to account for all of the graduate players still on scholly as well as the incoming freshman class? You'd be looking at 100+ scholarships.

Good question. My guess is the NCAA would grant that 6th year and bend the scholly limit for 2021.

Ian Book would return for a 6th year because he needs a really good year to get a sniff at the NFL. Liam Eichenberg will be training/ prepping for the NFL combine/ draft because he's probably a first rounder.

I imagine the will follow whatever they did for the spring athletes that had their seasons cut short.

Hope the locker rooms and facilities have enough space to handle the overflow.

 

[benneboy]

Good question. My guess is the NCAA would grant that 6th year and bend the scholly limit for 2021.

Ian Book would return for a 6th year because he needs a really good year to get a sniff at the NFL. Liam Eichenberg will be training/ prepping for the NFL combine/ draft because he's probably a first rounder.

Yes I think he'd leave. I don't think he'd have any shot at being a first rounder at this point. Maybe a late day 2 pick.

 

[Some Irish Bloke]

Yes I think he'd leave. I don't think he'd have any shot at being a first rounder at this point. Maybe a late day 2 pick.

If I'm not mistaken he's already getting first round attention from either Kiper McShay or both.

 

[Luckylucci]

If I'm not mistaken he's already getting first round attention from either Kiper McShay or both.

Unsure from those two but he’s got plenty of first round buzz from other places.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.si...otball/liam-eichenberg-first-round-mock-draft

PFF has him at #5 at the position.

https://www.pff.com/news/college-football-early-2021-nfl-draft-positional-rankings

 

[zelezo vlk]

I don't think it's unreasonable that Liam Eichenberg can be a Jeff Backus at the next level. A solid, never spectacular tackle.

But to think that he never would've seen the field under Hiestand...

 

[Henges24]

I don't think it's unreasonable that Liam Eichenberg can be a Jeff Backus at the next level. A solid, never spectacular tackle.

But to think that he never would've seen the field under Hiestand...

Jeff Backus. Oh Lord, don't get me started.

 

[calvegas04]

Pac 12 official conference games only.

 

[Huntr]

Gonna suck with no CFB this year.

Not as bad as getting sick and/or dying, but close!

 

[calvegas04]

Gonna suck with no CFB this year.

Not as bad as getting sick and/or dying, but close!

ehh, Id say equally as bad

 

[T-Boone]

Lets just go full ACC for the season.

 

[Polish Leppy 22]

NFL finally getting rid of meaningless preseason games, especially when you consider those dudes don't even get paid for it.

I would LOVE to see college football be allowed to schedule 2 preseason games in August and put them on TV. Let the teams schedule whoever they want.

18-22 year olds need the reps before the season, not the NFL. Would be a lot of fun.

 

[PANDFAN]

NFL finally getting rid of meaningless preseason games, especially when you consider those dudes don't even get paid for it.

I would LOVE to see college football be allowed to schedule 2 preseason games in August and put them on TV. Let the teams schedule whoever they want.

18-22 year olds need the reps before the season, not the NFL. Would be a lot of fun.

it's not meaningless if your vying for a roster spot

 

[arrowryan]

it's not meaningless if your vying for a roster spot

Yup. A lot of UDFA will be left in the cold this season.

 

[fightingirish26]

NFL finally getting rid of meaningless preseason games, especially when you consider those dudes don't even get paid for it.

I would LOVE to see college football be allowed to schedule 2 preseason games in August and put them on TV. Let the teams schedule whoever they want.

18-22 year olds need the reps before the season, not the NFL. Would be a lot of fun.

College teams can't just sign a free agent when their star linebacker gets hurt in a meaningless* game. Plus, I kind of enjoy the sloppiness and uncertainty of week one in CFB. Everyone is dealing with it, who can deal with it the best?

*I agree with the notion that it's very meaningful for players trying to make the roster. Could still achieve that with one/two preseason games in the NFL. College players may be fighting for playing time but they're not actually getting cut two weeks before the season. Some get processed in the offseason/transfer during Fall Camp but it's not the same.

 

[stpeteirish]

College teams can't just sign a free agent when their star linebacker gets hurt in a meaningless* game. Plus, I kind of enjoy the sloppiness and uncertainty of week one in CFB. Everyone is dealing with it, who can deal with it the best?

*I agree with the notion that it's very meaningful for players trying to make the roster. Could still achieve that with one/two preseason games in the NFL. College players may be fighting for playing time but they're not actually getting cut two weeks before the season. Some get processed in the offseason/transfer during Fall Camp but it's not the same.

with the advent of the transfer portal, waivers for immediate eligibility granted to anyone who hires a certain law firm, and high school juniors reclassifying to magically become college freshman I'm not so sure college programs aren't just like NFL teams signing free agents when a star player goes down.

 

[fightingirish26]

with the advent of the transfer portal, waivers for immediate eligibility granted to anyone who hires a certain law firm, and high school juniors reclassifying to magically become college freshman I'm not so sure college programs aren't just like NFL teams signing free agents when a star player goes down.

CFB has its own form of free agency now but it doesn't exist to help teams deal with injuries, unless the injury happens during the offseason/before fall camp.

 

[Polish Leppy 22]

it's not meaningless if your vying for a roster spot

NFL teams report in July. Teams/ coaches have more than a month to determine who can play and who can't. They schedule joint practices with other teams and scrimmage.

 

[Polish Leppy 22]

College teams can't just sign a free agent when their star linebacker gets hurt in a meaningless* game. Plus, I kind of enjoy the sloppiness and uncertainty of week one in CFB. Everyone is dealing with it, who can deal with it the best?

*I agree with the notion that it's very meaningful for players trying to make the roster. Could still achieve that with one/two preseason games in the NFL. College players may be fighting for playing time but they're not actually getting cut two weeks before the season. Some get processed in the offseason/transfer during Fall Camp but it's not the same.

Kinda weird you enjoy sloppy football play. High school teams get two scrimmages. NFL has gotten 4 preseason games. College football should add 2 in August (if they want) and let the teams schedule whoever they want.

Just one example of many, but wouldn't ND fans like to see a guy like true freshman Tyler Buechner perform on TV in 2 live scrimmages before he possibly starts his career in prime time against Florida St on national tv?

 

[ThePiombino]

To say NFL players aren't being paid for the pre-season is a tad misleading IMO. They are paid x amount for the year as far as I'm concerned. That includes pre-season, regular season, post-season, off-season conditioning, etc.

 

[Rack Em]

To say NFL players aren't being paid for the pre-season is a tad misleading IMO. They are paid x amount for the year as far as I'm concerned. That includes pre-season, regular season, post-season, off-season conditioning, etc.

But if you blow your knee out in the preseason and your contract isn’t guaranteed for injury, you’re not getting that cash

 

[Polish Leppy 22]

To say NFL players aren't being paid for the pre-season is a tad misleading IMO. They are paid x amount for the year as far as I'm concerned. That includes pre-season, regular season, post-season, off-season conditioning, etc.

You're right but no one gets a paycheck until week 1.

 

[PANDFAN]

NFL teams report in July. Teams/ coaches have more than a month to determine who can play and who can't. They schedule joint practices with other teams and scrimmage.

believe what you want, but there are only so many roster spots and whether they get signed to the team or not....its an audition for other teams to see what you can bring to the table...the more exposure the better

 

[Polish Leppy 22]

believe what you want, but there are only so many roster spots and whether they get signed to the team or not....its an audition for other teams to see what you can bring to the table...the more exposure the better

If they're good enough, they make it. If they're not, they don't. NFL coaches don't need 4 preseason games to see it.

But how fun would it be to see a preseason game in August on NBC between ND and say...Penn State?