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Found out today via a UNC commit that we are no longer Tight End U lol
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.... what a joke. Little kids pretending to walk with giants.
Notre Dame IS Tight End U --- even our latest unsung big boy will make an NFL team.
Notre Dame IS Tight End U --- even our latest unsung big boy will make an NFL team.
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Being a Lions fan, not sure I would want to promote Ebron if I was UNC.
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The Times had a cool little write up about the facebook. http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2014/10/03/upshot/ncaa-football-fan-map.html?abt=0002&abg=1
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final AP poll
final AP poll
1. Ohio State
2. Oregon
3. TCU
4. Alabama
t-5. Michigan State
t-5. Florida State
7. Baylor
8. Georgia Tech
9. Georgia
10. UCLA
11. Mississippi State
12. Arizona State
13. Wisconsin
14. Missouri
15. Clemson
16. Boise State
17. Ole Miss
18. Kansas State
19. Arizona
20. USC
21. Utah
22. Auburn
23. Marshall
24. Louisville
25. Memphis
Notre Dame falls in the "others receiving votes category," but at 28 points is a ways from Memphis, which clinched the No. 25 spot with 94 votes.
South Carolina (9), Stanford (11), LSU (13), Notre Dame (17), Texas A&M (21), Nebraska (22), North Carolina (23) and Washington (25) were ranked in the preseason and do not appear in the final top 25.
final AP poll
1. Ohio State
2. Oregon
3. TCU
4. Alabama
t-5. Michigan State
t-5. Florida State
7. Baylor
8. Georgia Tech
9. Georgia
10. UCLA
11. Mississippi State
12. Arizona State
13. Wisconsin
14. Missouri
15. Clemson
16. Boise State
17. Ole Miss
18. Kansas State
19. Arizona
20. USC
21. Utah
22. Auburn
23. Marshall
24. Louisville
25. Memphis
Notre Dame falls in the "others receiving votes category," but at 28 points is a ways from Memphis, which clinched the No. 25 spot with 94 votes.
South Carolina (9), Stanford (11), LSU (13), Notre Dame (17), Texas A&M (21), Nebraska (22), North Carolina (23) and Washington (25) were ranked in the preseason and do not appear in the final top 25.
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rban Meyer stormed up and down the Ohio State sideline, his body quaking in anger with the thought of dominating Oregon in the National Championship Game and letting it slip away due to turnovers. Rage had taken over.
When you know you’ve devised the perfect game plan to offset the Ducks and their fast-paced attack, and then allow them to cut the deficit to one point early in the third quarter, a coach cut from Meyer’s cloth in which the fire burns like an inferno will slip into a tirade.
Okay, so the kinder, gentler Meyer that has been depicted since his three-step process from Florida to retirement to Columbus is sometimes hard to find. Less difficult to detect is a game plan that works over and over and over again.
Twenty-eight first downs, 296 yards rushing, 538 yards total offense and 37:29 time of possession later, the national championship resides in the Midwest for the since time in 12 seasons when Jim Tressel led the Buckeyes to the 2002 crown.
Watch it, absorb it, understand it, believe it. It is not the mystery that some make it out to be. Rely on pace and trickery and gimmicks that catch the opposition off guard and you, too, can take the nation by storm a majority of the time during the regular season.
But when Oregon – still knocking on the door but unable to latch on to the game’s highest prize – has to win a game against a program based on toughness, physicality and the good, old-fashioned staples upon which winning college football has been built, it crumbles into another frustrating quest for the pot of gold.
“We imposed our will on them,” was the summation offered by 6-foot-0, 225-pound Buckeye running back Ezekiel Elliott after rushing for 246 bruising yards and four touchdowns on 36 carries en route to a 42-20 victory over Oregon.
There are no sweeter words on the gridiron. Imposing your will means beating the crap out of them.
That’s not to say that much of today’s offensive innovation concocted by Meyer – with signs of its roots flashed back in the early 2000s as a young wide receivers coach at Notre Dame – is without some sleight of hand and widening of the field. Meyer has always been on the cutting edge of spread offense principles that accentuate a dynamic passing attack.
But the foundation of his ridiculous success – a 142-26 record in 13 seasons, including three national titles – lives within the space in which his offensive and defensive lines meet their counterparts across the football. His coaching roots are directly tied to a) Earle Bruce and b) Lou Holtz.
Meyer’s championships are won in the trenches.
Those still seething over Meyer’s decision to take his vast coaching genius to Gainesville, Fla., instead of South Bend, Ind., back in 2005 don’t want to dwell on his success. Lavish praise for Meyer doesn’t sit well with many Notre Dame fans, and that is not the purpose of extolling his virtues here, other than to embrace his football philosophy.
He has earned a reputation among his detractors as a win-at-all-costs coach who will choose the path of least resistance on the academic/discipline front to win football games.
But there’s no arguing the facts on the football field. This isn’t about Meyer as much as it another vote for Notre Dame to adopt a similar frame of mind with regard to style of play. Until the Irish rely upon a similar approach on a week-to-week basis, they’re unlikely to reach a level of consistency that makes them a legitimate contender for playoff contention on a regular basis.
Ohio State counter-trapped Oregon right out of AT&T Stadium Monday night. The Buckeyes physically beat down their opponent, just as USC and the SEC did since the new millennium and just as a vast majority of the other programs that have claimed the top spot through the years have done. The last eight national-title winners have averaged at least 200 yards rushing per game.
Tempo offense is a bear to stop. Stopping it requires physicality, running the football, controlling the clock, and changing the game from one style of play to another. Tempo offense isn’t nearly as effective when the components of that attack are standing along the sideline, hands on hips, waiting to get the football back.
Winning the national championship game is difficult when you turn the football over four times, as the Buckeyes did. The way to overcome it is to run the football, control the clock, and then play hard-nosed defense in the trenches. Easier said than done, right? Well, you can’t get there if you don’t have the philosophy as a starting point.
Of course, none of this is a great secret to Irish fans, who two weeks earlier watched Notre Dame rush for 263 yards with a young quarterback – Malik Zaire – offering an expanded offensive game plan while Everett Golson collaborated with his passing-game prowess.
Inexperience at quarterback can be offset with a strong read-option attack. Zaire made his first career start against LSU; Ohio State’s Cardale Jones now has three.
They said Notre Dame shocked the world by running on and defeating LSU. The real mystery is why Notre Dame doesn’t play to its Midwestern strengths and adopt a similar approach on a regular basis.
If there’s an area on the football field the Irish can recruit, it’s offensive linemen. While the Irish have struggled since the end of the Lou Holtz era to be a consistent force, they rarely have difficulty attracting four-star talent along the offensive front.
The last time the Irish averaged 200 yards rushing per game during the regular season, they played for the national title against Alabama. When their approach leans more toward a finesse-oriented style of play, they still register a winning record under Brian Kelly, but finish in the four-to-five loss range.
Notre Dame is said to have one of the top strength and conditioning coaches in the country in Paul Longo. He tends to get more credit for his team’s work volume than brute strength. But as Meyer’s Buckeyes showed once again, you can benefit from the best of both worlds. You can be a physical and athletic team at the same time.
Nick Saban and Alabama win with a foundation of physicality. The SEC won seven straight national titles, and they didn’t do it with an air raid. Although athleticism is important in today’s athlete-filled game, the history of Notre Dame’s success hasn’t come with the most athletic teams in the country. In college football, the basis for success is not historically outdated.
The bad news is that Notre Dame currently is not among the best programs in the country. The good news is that recruiting to the principles of what make teams dominant in college football plays to the recruiting strengths of Notre Dame.
Here’s another reality: the Irish now have to recruit against Meyer and Jim Harbaugh in the Midwest. Yesterday’s version of Woody Hayes vs. Bo Schembechler is about to be realized every season/Thanksgiving Saturday when two of the titans of the college game – Meyer and Harbaugh – square off.
Adapt and thrive; be stubborn and you won’t survive the battle in the Midwest where physicality and the running game always have been and probably always will be king.
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When you know you’ve devised the perfect game plan to offset the Ducks and their fast-paced attack, and then allow them to cut the deficit to one point early in the third quarter, a coach cut from Meyer’s cloth in which the fire burns like an inferno will slip into a tirade.
Okay, so the kinder, gentler Meyer that has been depicted since his three-step process from Florida to retirement to Columbus is sometimes hard to find. Less difficult to detect is a game plan that works over and over and over again.
Twenty-eight first downs, 296 yards rushing, 538 yards total offense and 37:29 time of possession later, the national championship resides in the Midwest for the since time in 12 seasons when Jim Tressel led the Buckeyes to the 2002 crown.
Watch it, absorb it, understand it, believe it. It is not the mystery that some make it out to be. Rely on pace and trickery and gimmicks that catch the opposition off guard and you, too, can take the nation by storm a majority of the time during the regular season.
But when Oregon – still knocking on the door but unable to latch on to the game’s highest prize – has to win a game against a program based on toughness, physicality and the good, old-fashioned staples upon which winning college football has been built, it crumbles into another frustrating quest for the pot of gold.
“We imposed our will on them,” was the summation offered by 6-foot-0, 225-pound Buckeye running back Ezekiel Elliott after rushing for 246 bruising yards and four touchdowns on 36 carries en route to a 42-20 victory over Oregon.
There are no sweeter words on the gridiron. Imposing your will means beating the crap out of them.
That’s not to say that much of today’s offensive innovation concocted by Meyer – with signs of its roots flashed back in the early 2000s as a young wide receivers coach at Notre Dame – is without some sleight of hand and widening of the field. Meyer has always been on the cutting edge of spread offense principles that accentuate a dynamic passing attack.
But the foundation of his ridiculous success – a 142-26 record in 13 seasons, including three national titles – lives within the space in which his offensive and defensive lines meet their counterparts across the football. His coaching roots are directly tied to a) Earle Bruce and b) Lou Holtz.
Meyer’s championships are won in the trenches.
Those still seething over Meyer’s decision to take his vast coaching genius to Gainesville, Fla., instead of South Bend, Ind., back in 2005 don’t want to dwell on his success. Lavish praise for Meyer doesn’t sit well with many Notre Dame fans, and that is not the purpose of extolling his virtues here, other than to embrace his football philosophy.
He has earned a reputation among his detractors as a win-at-all-costs coach who will choose the path of least resistance on the academic/discipline front to win football games.
But there’s no arguing the facts on the football field. This isn’t about Meyer as much as it another vote for Notre Dame to adopt a similar frame of mind with regard to style of play. Until the Irish rely upon a similar approach on a week-to-week basis, they’re unlikely to reach a level of consistency that makes them a legitimate contender for playoff contention on a regular basis.
Ohio State counter-trapped Oregon right out of AT&T Stadium Monday night. The Buckeyes physically beat down their opponent, just as USC and the SEC did since the new millennium and just as a vast majority of the other programs that have claimed the top spot through the years have done. The last eight national-title winners have averaged at least 200 yards rushing per game.
Tempo offense is a bear to stop. Stopping it requires physicality, running the football, controlling the clock, and changing the game from one style of play to another. Tempo offense isn’t nearly as effective when the components of that attack are standing along the sideline, hands on hips, waiting to get the football back.
Winning the national championship game is difficult when you turn the football over four times, as the Buckeyes did. The way to overcome it is to run the football, control the clock, and then play hard-nosed defense in the trenches. Easier said than done, right? Well, you can’t get there if you don’t have the philosophy as a starting point.
Of course, none of this is a great secret to Irish fans, who two weeks earlier watched Notre Dame rush for 263 yards with a young quarterback – Malik Zaire – offering an expanded offensive game plan while Everett Golson collaborated with his passing-game prowess.
Inexperience at quarterback can be offset with a strong read-option attack. Zaire made his first career start against LSU; Ohio State’s Cardale Jones now has three.
They said Notre Dame shocked the world by running on and defeating LSU. The real mystery is why Notre Dame doesn’t play to its Midwestern strengths and adopt a similar approach on a regular basis.
If there’s an area on the football field the Irish can recruit, it’s offensive linemen. While the Irish have struggled since the end of the Lou Holtz era to be a consistent force, they rarely have difficulty attracting four-star talent along the offensive front.
The last time the Irish averaged 200 yards rushing per game during the regular season, they played for the national title against Alabama. When their approach leans more toward a finesse-oriented style of play, they still register a winning record under Brian Kelly, but finish in the four-to-five loss range.
Notre Dame is said to have one of the top strength and conditioning coaches in the country in Paul Longo. He tends to get more credit for his team’s work volume than brute strength. But as Meyer’s Buckeyes showed once again, you can benefit from the best of both worlds. You can be a physical and athletic team at the same time.
Nick Saban and Alabama win with a foundation of physicality. The SEC won seven straight national titles, and they didn’t do it with an air raid. Although athleticism is important in today’s athlete-filled game, the history of Notre Dame’s success hasn’t come with the most athletic teams in the country. In college football, the basis for success is not historically outdated.
The bad news is that Notre Dame currently is not among the best programs in the country. The good news is that recruiting to the principles of what make teams dominant in college football plays to the recruiting strengths of Notre Dame.
Here’s another reality: the Irish now have to recruit against Meyer and Jim Harbaugh in the Midwest. Yesterday’s version of Woody Hayes vs. Bo Schembechler is about to be realized every season/Thanksgiving Saturday when two of the titans of the college game – Meyer and Harbaugh – square off.
Adapt and thrive; be stubborn and you won’t survive the battle in the Midwest where physicality and the running game always have been and probably always will be king.
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Interesting article...glad we are finally into the insurance policy business since other universities offer this for their stars....biggest take away was When BK said about being disappointed with just 1leaving early last year...he's looking at you Troy.....he seems really upset over this as he has been quoted several times regarding him
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You think it was Troy instead of Tuitt? My thought was Tuitt imediately but Troy would make sense as well.
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Definitely Niklas. They knew Tuitt was going, especially bc he had a kid.
But they were blindsided by Niklas leaving early. His dad even said he was coming back. That pissed Kelly off and he was very open about his disappointment.
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I don't think Kelly was just upset about Troy leaving early for the sake of just losing a tight end (although I am sure that is a part of it too). I think he also felt that for Troy's future sake he would have been best to come back another year, polish his game more, and be a top pick with his degree instead of a lower pick speeding up the clock on his SECOND NFL contract
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A source on campus (and not a student) told me that Troy didn't get along with Kelly. He felt Kelly was too much of a politician and not enough of a coach.
It wasn't Niklas cashing in as much as it was getting away from Kelly.
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sounds like a line Troy was fed.
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It's wild to think we could theoretically have 2-4 first day selections in the next draft: Stanley, Russell, Day, Fuller*
If they can all stay healthy and continue their development, we'll have a great year and Kelly will have even more production to sell young kids who have bright eyes and big expectations.
*That's if Fuller would decide to leave a year early. After his sophomore performanc, if he can improve his concentration, I wouldn't be surprised to see him jump.
If they can all stay healthy and continue their development, we'll have a great year and Kelly will have even more production to sell young kids who have bright eyes and big expectations.
*That's if Fuller would decide to leave a year early. After his sophomore performanc, if he can improve his concentration, I wouldn't be surprised to see him jump.
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Dude Fuller isn't even a #1 WR how the hell is he a 1st day pick
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Or he sniffed
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Who is then?
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I'm sure Hall of Famer Bruce Matthews had 0 to do with It. Too many other people instead of the actual coach.
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At first I thought this was sarcasm but it doesn't make proper use of the font. Who is our #1 WR? What is Fuller in your eyes?
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There's a difference between being the best receiver on a college team and the #1 receiver on an NFL team. Size is a big part of it.
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Jaylon and Cole Luke could be up there as well
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There are several posters on the board who stand on opposite sides on the line. I believe he is a legit #1. Some do not. I was on my phone and couldn't use italics. It was meant to be sarcastic. Now a legit #1 on a CFB team and legit #1 on an NFL team are 2 completely different things. I'll argue all day long he's a CFB legit #1. NFL, I'll hold off on that one................................for now.
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Fuller reminds me of DeSean Jackson.
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Understood, I've never claimed is a #1 NFL WR and I won't.
Good call, I doubt Cole Luke finishes that high but Jaylon is a serious threat.
Good to know. Happy to hear we are on the same page about Fuller.
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