Floyd Arrested

[Anchorman]

BK has got to be, well, I'm not sure how to describe it.

 

[IrishSteelhead]

What a mess.....but a college kid getting drunk and making a poor choice isn't grounds to shred their character.

This is a non-story at any other university, and you know it. Will he be booted? Most likely. Is he the scourge of God because of this? Absolutely not.

*My stance is subject to change if more info about this mysterious "Caddy" surfaces and it ain't good.

 

[IrishLax]

I feel like every post on here alluding to the "caddy" should be deleted.

 

[SoDakDomer]

this^

 

[Riddickulous]

BK has got to be, well, I'm not sure how to describe it.

"Angry enough to shatter nations" would be a pretty accurate way to describe it.

 

[Anchorman]

Article on ESPN says the BAC was .19, which means it wasn't even close. Sad situation frankly.

 

[BGIF]

What a bunch of BS posts. I don't recall every seeing so much misinformation in a thread.

This isn't MSU or anywhere else like it. This is Notre Dame. Speculation about how other schools or coaches handle such a situation is irrelevant. Coaches don't handle student misconduct at ND, it's handle through the Office of Residence Life & Housing.

ND student's conduct is bound by:

du Lac : A GUIDE TO STUDENT LIFE NOTRE DAME STUDENT HANDBOOK

Here's a link: Residence Life & Housing: du Lac

The Driving Under the Iinfluence description posted by piombino (sorry if misspelled) is taken from Page 114 of that handbook.

ND students are bound by that code of conduct 365/24/7 on campus OR OFF. Doesn't matter what you coffee pot lawyers think is fair. That's the way it is. This is ND.

Unlike Alabama, OSU the coach doesn't get to decide nor plead the player's case. (N.B. IF Res Life doesn't act the coach can still apply "team rules" punishment but that wouldn't be in lieu of any punishment from Res Life.)

This is a student situation as such the resolution is confidential. If Floyd choses to comment public that's his perogative. UND will not comment pursuant to federal law about student confidentiality. Most of the student-athlete's comments in the past have been "no comment" or "I left for personal reasons".

The only thing you will hear from ND is Kelly now is that he is aware of the situation and the University will handle the matter. At a subsequent PC in a few weeks he might tersely note that Floyd will not be with the team for the rest of Spring Ball or will not be with the team for the '11 season.

From past cases like this during the 15 years I've been on ND internet boards, he is likely to face suspension from extracurricular activities for a semester. At ND that means if your a cheerleader your off the squad, if your in the Band, your out, if your in the Glee Club you don't sing with the group.

In the Fall of '05 Rashon Powers Neal got an DUI in Minnesota and he had to go before Res Life and he was suspended. The supension was not for a number of games nor for the season. Suspensions as noted above are for a semester. Weis through that meant through the end of classes for the Fall term and that he would be bowl eligible. He wasn't. ND considers a semester suspension to be in effect until the next semester starts.

During Spring Ball or just before Spring Ball in '97 a TE John Cerasani got into an argument with a teammate over a slur the other made about Cerasani's mother who was terminal. Cerasani slugged him. He had to go before Res Life. He was suspended for the FOLLOWING semester not the current one he was in. He appealed asking for it to be apply to the Spring Term so he would sit out Spring Ball and be eligible for the '97 season. He offered to take any other kind of punishment so his mother could see him play. He was denied and he transferred out of ND. He would have been a senior.

The question at the moment is one of timing, when will Res Life hear his case and when will they enforce any punitive action. Floyd could be suspended like Powers Neal was for the current semester or like Cerasani was for the next semester. It's all about timing.


None of this is new policy. Over 29 years ago Michael Stonebreaker was badly hurt in an automobile accident (DUI) and had to go before Res Life. His driving priviliges on campus were revoked. While on probation he was caught driving, supposedly moving a roommate's car from one parking lot to another. (Comparable to Yeatman's beer drinking violation) He was suspended from Student Activities (read that the football team for the '89 season. He was already an All-American. Unlike Yeatman and Cerasani, Stonebreaker returned to ND for the '90 season.

 

[loomis41973]

I agree with the Caddy thing.


Bourbon and Lacs anyone?

 

[Polish Leppy 22]

What is wrong with his car? Man this whole car conspiracy nonsense is unnecessary.

A vehicle is a vehicle.

Go nap off your speculation on a grassy knoll somewhere.

How old are you, 12? He came from a very humble background in Minnesota, single mom, not a lot of money going around in the house, took the bus to school every day in high school, etc. So the idea of him driving a WHITE CADILLAC as a scholarship athlete at ND raises eyebrows. Not condemning him...just questioning right now. That's all.

 

[phgreek]

I feel like every post on here alluding to the "caddy" should be deleted.

I'm torn...I like that folks bring up stuff I wouldn't immediately think of...but its scary that we have "media" and "other" lurkers who treat such things as more than a couple guys having an interesting conversation...

 

[IrishLax]

I'm torn...I like that folks bring up stuff I wouldn't immediately think of...but its scary that we have "media" and "other" lurkers who treat such things as more than a couple guys having an interesting conversation...

Exactly. This is how BS rumors start and spin out of control... a couple idiots behind a keyboard posting **** they know nothing about.

 

[rikkitikki08]

Im starting a rumor he was driving a ford escort.....Thats a classy car

 

[FightingIrishLover7]

How old are you, 12? He came from a very humble background in Minnesota, single mom, not a lot of money going around in the house, took the bus to school every day in high school, etc. So the idea of him driving a WHITE CADILLAC as a scholarship athlete at ND raises eyebrows. Not condemning him...just questioning right now. That's all.

13... in a few weeks...

 

[FightingIrishLover7]

Im starting a rumor he was driving a ford escort.....Thats a classy car

Dodge Neon... with underbody lights.

 

[NDFan4Life]

I haven't read each and every post in this thread, but my opinion is that his career at ND is done. I just don't believe he'll be back in uniform for ND. I'm not going to speculate on the entire situation, but what is not in doubt is his BAC. That, in itself, spells the end. I'm not exactly thrilled with this, but it's just the way I feel.

 

[CanadianIrish]

I feel like every post on here alluding to the "caddy" should be deleted.

Sorry if some people are worried that this situation could actually get worse rather than better. But you're right, ban everyone who's isn't a pollyanna fan. Today those who mention the caddy, tomorrow everyone who doesn't think we're going to win 10 games!

 

[IrishLax]

What a bunch of BS posts. I don't recall every seeing so much misinformation in a thread.

This isn't MSU or anywhere else like it. This is Notre Dame. Speculation about how other schools or coaches handle such a situation is irrelevant. Coaches don't handle student misconduct at ND, it's handle through the Office of Residence Life & Housing.

ND student's conduct is bound by:

du Lac : A GUIDE TO STUDENT LIFE NOTRE DAME STUDENT HANDBOOK

Here's a link: Residence Life & Housing: du Lac

The Driving Under the Iinfluence description posted by piombino (sorry if misspelled) is taken from Page 114 of that handbook.

ND students are bound by that code of conduct 365/24/7 on campus OR OFF. Doesn't matter what you coffee pot lawyers think is fair. That's the way it is. This is ND.

Unlike Alabama, OSU the coach doesn't get to decide nor plead the player's case. (N.B. IF Res Life doesn't act the coach can still apply "team rules" punishment but that wouldn't be in lieu of any punishment from Res Life.)

This is a student situation as such the resolution is confidential. If Floyd choses to comment public that's his perogative. UND will not comment pursuant to federal law about student confidentiality. Most of the student-athlete's comments in the past have been "no comment" or "I left for personal reasons".

The only thing you will hear from ND is Kelly now is that he is aware of the situation and the University will handle the matter. At a subsequent PC in a few weeks he might tersely note that Floyd will not be with the team for the rest of Spring Ball or will not be with the team for the '11 season.

From past cases like this during the 15 years I've been on ND internet boards, he is likely to face suspension from extracurricular activities for a semester. At ND that means if your a cheerleader your off the squad, if your in the Band, your out, if your in the Glee Club you don't sing with the group.

In the Fall of '05 Rashon Powers Neal got an DUI in Minnesota and he had to go before Res Life and he was suspended. The supension was not for a number of games nor for the season. Suspensions as noted above are for a semester. Weis through that meant through the end of classes for the Fall term and that he would be bowl eligible. He wasn't. ND considers a semester suspension to be in effect until the next semester starts.

During Spring Ball or just before Spring Ball in '97 a TE John Cerasani got into an argument with a teammate over a slur the other made about Cerasani's mother who was terminal. Cerasani slugged him. He had to go before Res Life. He was suspended for the FOLLOWING semester not the current one he was in. He appealed asking for it to be apply to the Spring Term so he would sit out Spring Ball and be eligible for the '97 season. He offered to take any other kind of punishment so his mother could see him play. He was denied and he transferred out of ND. He would have been a senior.

The question at the moment is one of timing, when will Res Life hear his case and when will they enforce any punitive action. Floyd could be suspended like Powers Neal was for the current semester or like Cerasani was for the next semester. It's all about timing.


None of this is new policy. Over 29 years ago Michael Stonebreaker was badly hurt in an automobile accident (DUI) and had to go before Res Life. His driving priviliges on campus were revoked. While on probation he was caught driving, supposedly moving a roommate's car from one parking lot to another. (Comparable to Yeatman's beer drinking violation) He was suspended from Student Activities (read that the football team for the '89 season. He was already an All-American. Unlike Yeatman and Cerasani, Stonebreaker returned to ND for the '90 season.

Just one clarification to an otherwise (I think) extremely accurate and informative post... but Yeatman took his DUI punishment like a man and did not transfer from ND. It was only after cops busted in the door a house "party" while most everyone was asleep and started manhandling people without cause and ResLife suspended him for ANOTHER semester of sports that he said "screw South Bend" and went to Maryland.

Between you and me I think a lot of it was because while he was getting crucified for underage drinking Travis Reed (star attackman for Maryland) got caught with enough weed to impress Bob Marley and only got the NCAA minimum 2 game suspension and no other noticeable punishment.

Suffice to say Notre Dame does things differently than 90% of other schools and there is very little chance MF suits up this year.

 

[rikkitikki08]

Dodge Neon... with underbody lights.

Underbody lights you say? He must be getting paid by someone to have such an exceptional vehicle with super expensive after market lights

 

[IrishLax]

Sorry if some people are worried that this situation could actually get worse rather than better. But you're right, ban everyone who's isn't a pollyanna fan. Today those who mention the caddy, tomorrow everyone who doesn't think we're going to win 10 games!

Why stir up rumors and conjecture from nowhere based on no facts? What good does that do besides possibly give some troll or lurker something to run with and then BOOM we have some scandal?

Thanks for looking at the little picture. If you're really "worried" then why post it?

 

[Old Man Mike]

Thanks, BGIF. The rage and off-the-top-of-the-head vulcanism that often permeates the board needs you badly. It's also depressing to see how rapidly and massively the name-calling and stone-throwing escalates. Notre Dame will handle this equitably, and most of it isn't really any of our business. It's a shame that a member of the university has such a problem and we should pray that he gains the inner fortitude to do what is right for him and those whom he affects with his life. 21 is young to expect a fully-formed human being in all elements of his make-up. We should ease off the vicious invective.

And, the football team will be just fine.

 

[rikkitikki08]

Thanks, BGIF. The rage and off-the-top-of-the-head vulcanism that often permeates the board needs you badly. It's also depressing to see how rapidly and massively the name-calling and stone-throwing escalates. Notre Dame will handle this equitably, and most of it isn't really any of our business. It's a shame that a member of the university has such a problem and we should pray that he gains the inner fortitude to do what is right for him and those whom he affects with his life. 21 is young to expect a fully-formed human being in all elements of his make-up. We should ease off the vicious invective.

And, the football team will be just fine.

Amen

 

[alaskandomer]

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OSU crew's violations are for recruiting stuff and the tattoo incident if I remember correctly. There's nothing illegal there, just against NCAA rules.

This is a drunk driving incident. It is much worse. It is against the law, and very easily can get people injured or killed.

This is our chance to live up to what we claim to be our standards and what we say others don't. If he's not guilty, he should sit for USF just for stupidity and putting himself in the situation. if he's guilty, it ought to be much longer.

Amen. This is not "minor consuming" anymore. Drunk drivers kill people. As much as it would pain me to not see Michael on the field, even for one game, we hold ourselves to a higher standard, and superstars aren't exempt. Forget what other schools would do. What will WE do?

 

[IrishBlood81]

Thanks, BGIF. The rage and off-the-top-of-the-head vulcanism that often permeates the board needs you badly. It's also depressing to see how rapidly and massively the name-calling and stone-throwing escalates. Notre Dame will handle this equitably, and most of it isn't really any of our business. It's a shame that a member of the university has such a problem and we should pray that he gains the inner fortitude to do what is right for him and those whom he affects with his life. 21 is young to expect a fully-formed human being in all elements of his make-up. We should ease off the vicious invective.

And, the football team will be just fine.

Your post are always spot on and the voice of sound reason. Thank you, Mike! We need you.
I just really feel bad for him! I mean...this dude is incredible...Our number 1 player and go to guy, next year draft #1 Receiver, HUGE NFL future could all just have gone down the drain.
Its just too bad..

 

[Mr. McGibblets]

Well after reading BGIF's post, I just lost 95% of hope for a 4 game suspension.

Still hope consideration is taken between his first underage Summary offense and this issue. But unlike BGIF, i have no experience in how they enforce rules--if it is letter of the law or if there is some wiggle room. Not allowing a coach to fight for you has to suck.

Just read that in Indiana if you're BAC is greater than .14, then it bumps up to a Class A misdemeanor. Not to make it sound worse than a Class C but the main difference is the fine and license suspension time period. Unfortunately, I think the BAC will weigh heavily in any decision made.

 

[CanadianIrish]

Why stir up rumors and conjecture from nowhere based on no facts? What good does that do besides possibly give some troll or lurker something to run with and then BOOM we have some scandal?

Thanks for looking at the little picture. If you're really "worried" then why post it?

Please tell me you're joking. The exact same comment could be made about every single comment on this thread speculating about the length of the suspension. You don't think that if he gets a light suspension every ND hater will reference the posts in this thread? Beyond that, it's a legitimate question and this is a DISCUSSION board, not a post only what IrishLax approves of board.

 

[GreatGolson]

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[IrishLax]

Please tell me you're joking. The exact same comment could be made about every single comment on this thread speculating about the length of the suspension. You don't think that if he gets a light suspension every ND hater will reference the posts in this thread? Beyond that, it's a legitimate question and this is a DISCUSSION board, not a post only what IrishLax approves of board.

I'm struggling so hard here to see where the disconnect is.

On one hand you have a thread about a DUI arrest and people discussing the DUI arrest and people speculating on what kind of punishment he could be looking at.

On the other hand you have a thread about a DUI arrest and people taking a throw away line that only states he was operating a white vehicle and speculating that one of our players is taking improper benefits.

You're telling me those are apples to apples? The latter is not only off topic but grossly speculative, damning and inappropriate based on the facts. Here is the litmus test is:

If you started a thread entitled "Michael Floyd taking improper benefits?" and your post read "hi guys I think Michael Floyd is a cheater because he was pulled over in a car that was white and a Cadillac" do you think it would stand? No, it'd get deleted. And that is exactly what you and a couple others are doing in the middle of this thread.

And scroll up and read the litany of other people who think your posts are off-topic and inappropriate. Sure, it's not everyone, but it's a large majority.

 

[IrishInFl]

I don't know if this has been posted yet.

Floyd Suspended Indefinitely

 

[GreatGolson]

On a serious note, i want serious penalties, BK has had a few of these cases now and the administration needs to really make an example of him, idk about season suspension, but spring, summer, and early games definantly as well as community work and whatever the court decides for him

 

[GoldenIsThyFame]

I don't know if this has been posted yet.

Floyd Suspended Indefinitely

BK is not a happy camper. Mike made a very poor choice in judgement and at this point I feel bad for what he is going through because of it.