Five Players Arrested

Blaise

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Can We take a deep breath and relax... Let's see how this plays out. Let's see how the school reacts. I don't think any of the kids but Max and Coney is a huge loss.. It sure doesn't change my opinion of our win loss record. It hurts depth, but that's about it... For all we know they miss 4 games.. Let's stay healthy, and lets beat Texas
 

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Hate to be that guy but a little glaring that 3 out of the 5 arrested are from FL. Actually most surprised in Stepherson. Seems like a straight edge kid.

It's weird to you that three kids from the same home state would be hanging out together? Gotcha...
 

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I was thinking the exact same thing. Is the cop that bored?

I've gotten a ticket for 72 in a 60 on US31 from ISP. I drive between Indy and the South Bend area a couple times a month and ISP is always out there.
 

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They need, at minimum, to be suspended. If the gun was legally owned, the owner should be pistol-whipped. The fuck you need a gun for while smoking weed? Take the gun out of the car if you are going to burn one down. Keep the gun on your person if it's for self defense.

I'm guessing minimum 2 game suspension for all involved. On the bright side, Texas has a legitimate chance to beat us now and we'll get to see a bevy of freshman take the field. Studstill will likely start beside Tranquil.

Dex was one of the players I was most excited about. Really hope he gets his shit together because he has a chance to do big things at ND (not saying the others don't).

Even for the guys just smoking a blunt? I'd say one at the most. If Floyd can get multiple DUIs and a danger to others on the road and not get suspended, then these guys shouldn't be either. For the guy with the gun, that has never happened before so I don't know how that will be handled
 

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In Indiana you have to have a license to carry (open or concealed) or to have it in your vehicle unless it is unloaded and not readily accessible. According to the article, the gun was loaded, so I would think that would be the reason for the charge in addition to no one being licensed.

Loaded is a shell in the chamber, not in the magazine.

I call bullshit.

This is also a joke everyone in the vehicle was charged.
 

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This is an unbelievably asinine statement. Not only is Kelly not to blame for OTHER PEOPLE'S ACTIONS, but he has also historically dealt with issues head-on vs sweeping them under the rug. It's not like he's creating an SEC environment regarding punishment (or lack thereof). WTF

Apologize that I offended you. Just don't understand the 'poor Kelly' whenever players get arrested, suspended, and expelled.
 

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I'm so depressed now. The range of emotions I have.

I still say kick all six of them out of school. Let's start fresh


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I'm so depressed now. The range of emotions I have.

I still say kick all six of them out of school. Let's start fresh


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Kick them out of school for something a blunt? Something that is becoming legal in more and more states.. Pass on that
 

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Loaded is a shell in the chamber, not in the magazine.

I call bullshit.

This is also a joke everyone in the vehicle was charged.


Indiana law is that it has to be unloaded, not readily accessible, and secured in a case, so all 3 of those conditions would have to be met to meet the law. We don't know if there was a round in the chamber, but if the other 2 conditions of the law weren't met, it doesn't matter.

You can bullshit all you want, but that is the state law.

Here's the link to the state handgun laws: Indiana Code 2016 - Indiana General Assembly, 2016 Session

It starts on page 698 of the document in the link.
 
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Good thing we don't have an established, leader of a QB that the team can look to to move us forward. Nothing like waffling on top of a major hit to the team like this. Name Malik or kizer the starter and let's get the fucking train moving forward.

I've never disliked BK before but shit like this is why you choose a leader of the team and move forward.
 

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Apologize that I offended you. Just don't understand the 'poor Kelly' whenever players get arrested, suspended, and expelled.

Hardly offended, no need for an apology. I just don't get the correlation here between 5 meatheads and Kelly, especially given his history at ND in dealing with this crap.
 

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Good thing we don't have an established, leader of a QB that the team can look to to move us forward. Nothing like waffling on top of a major hit to the team like this. Name Malik or kizer the starter and let's get the fucking train moving forward.

I've never disliked BK before but shit like this is why you choose a leader of the team and move forward.

JC, do you really need to bring the QB bullshit into this thread too? As if one has anything to do with the other. Just stop it...
 

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Kick them out of school for something a blunt? Something that is becoming legal in more and more states.. Pass on that



Kick the five out for unlinked we hand gun.

And Butler for his actions. Why because I don't want to see their faces ever again. Especially Redfield!


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We are making a play for the Fulmer Cup late. I'm happy with winning anything at this point.
 

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Hardly offended, no need for an apology. I just don't get the correlation here between 5 meatheads and Kelly, especially given his history at ND in dealing with this crap.

He certainly has developed a wealth of experience over the years.
 

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Indiana law is that it has to be unloaded, not readily accessible, and secured in a case, so all 3 of those conditions would have to be met to meet the law. We don't know if there was a round in the chamber, but if the other 2 conditions of the law weren't met, it doesn't matter.

You can bullshit all you want, but that is the state law.

Here's the link to the state handgun laws: Indiana Code 2016 - Indiana General Assembly, 2016 Session

It starts on page 698 of the document in the link.

Fuck Indiana and their pathetic law restraining people from protecting thenselves.

Why were all 5 charged judge?
 

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FUUUUUUUUUCK

Every god damn year.

Anyone think the University is a little bit to blame? If ND wasn't so extreme in the way they deal with weed, maybe 4 students wouldn't feel the need to be 50 minutes off campus with a gun at 1am just to buy a little pot.
 

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FUUUUUUUUUCK

Every god damn year.

Anyone think the University is a little bit to blame? If ND wasn't so extreme in the way they deal with weed, maybe 4 students wouldn't feel the need to be 50 minutes off campus with a gun at 1am just to buy a little pot.
No.

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Can I go on record and say, I yearn for the day when it's no longer cool to drive around high (or drunk) and carry weapons?

Why can't they just smoke pot and play Xbox?

I'll never, ever understand "cruises". The risk/reward ratio leans way more towards risk.
 

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Kick the five out for unlinked we hand gun.

And Butler for his actions. Why because I don't want to see their faces ever again. Especially Redfield!


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I have never owned a gun in my life, but back when I lived in Detroit, I had friends who would carry... So I am not kicking 5 out cuz one person had a gun.. Now if Kelly finds out who had it, feel free to kick that person out.. Butler.. He can be gone, pushing a woman outside a bar and being in the middle of that... See ya
 

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Good thing we don't have an established, leader of a QB that the team can look to to move us forward. Nothing like waffling on top of a major hit to the team like this. Name Malik or kizer the starter and let's get the fucking train moving forward.

I've never disliked BK before but shit like this is why you choose a leader of the team and move forward.

Actually, by all accounts we have TWO QBs that the team can look to for leadership. And they both appear to be quite successful in that arena. Just because you are the starter, that doesn't make you the de facto leader of the team. It puts you in the driver's seat to become the leader of the team, but it doesn't guarantee that you are.
 

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Fuck Indiana and their pathetic law restraining people from protecting thenselves.

Why we're all 5 charged judge?

I get that you don't like the law, but it doesn't mean you are absolved of the consequences if you don't abide by it while in that location. It's easy to get a handgun license in Indiana (I have one) and Indiana is one of the more gun friendly states.

I don't have an answer for why multiple players were charged, don't know all the circumstances there.
 

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Fuck Indiana and their pathetic law restraining people from protecting thenselves.

Why were all 5 charged judge?

Pretty sure because it wasn't found on a person and no one copped to owning it. If it was in the back seat somewhere and there were three within reach, it easily could've been anyone's. So since no one copped to it they all get charged for it.
 

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Someone needs to jump on that sword and get the Fulton 5 in the rearview.

I hope they were just joy riding. But why wouldn't you head towards MC where there's something at least going on? Isn't the first thing they tell these players when arriving to campus that the civilized world ends when you see the first cornfield heading south on 31?

You guys can take this how you want but I'm from Michiana and anyone from there knows a car load of brothers in the counties south of SB... Marshall, Starke, Fulton is gonna get stopped. My Grandparents lived in Fulton Co when they retired. Brothers don't go to Plymouth, Knox and Rochester. This is a drawback of camp at CMA. Culver is Notre Dame-esque surrounded by HOSTILE territory. Go hang out in Michigan City and blend!

I just hope it was an poorly chosen ride to blow off some steam. Those three counties are well known for growing. If the dog was called in to find something in the trunk, then that's a different level of No Bueno.

Oh well, dodged it for a long time this summer. It might completely miss us next summer .
 
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