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Nice setup by Zades there, straight on a platter...
 

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I still have questions about Klinnsman's, and I'm not sure I'll ever get over his absolutely STUPID decision to put Wondo over Donovan in the WC, but he is absolutely money with his subs. Time and time again, his subs come in and make a huge difference. Great job by Zades.
 

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Of course get off my Fenian ass to get a Flower Child IPA from Cambridge Brewing Company , and Dempsey thumps one in .
 

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I still have questions about Klinnsman's, and I'm not sure I'll ever get over his absolutely STUPID decision to put Wondo over Donovan in the WC, but he is absolutely money with his subs. Time and time again, his subs come in and make a huge difference. Great job by Zades.

Like Wondo against Belgium ?? ;)
 
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Jozy just secured his place on the bench. Weak showing in two straight games.
 
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Guuyierre?? Is a f'ing nightmare. Garza having a rough night over there.
 

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So we all know why the US is playing better in the second half, right? Hint: the game is in Foxborough

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Zardes so much better tonight, but he's still far too heavy with his touches
 

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Schweinsteiger to ManU, apparently. €20M transfer fee. End of an era.

I has a sad.

If true, I'll cry... On the inside... Maybe a couple real tears too. He really ought to follow the Gerrard career path. Stay at one club... Especially one line Munich. United literally have nothing better than Munich.

Stadium? Lol no.
History? Lol no.
Teammates? Lol no
Coaching? Lol no.
The city itself? Never been to either but hear great things about Munich... Not so much about Manchester, though I'm sure it's livable.

Don't do like this Basti.
 

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Rummenigge?src=hash">#Rummenigge</a>: "Bastian wants to do something new at the end of his career. He asked that we meet his wishes." <a href="http://t.co/JoE0EN0MgI">pic.twitter.com/JoE0EN0MgI</a></p>— FC Bayern English (@FCBayernEN) <a href="https://twitter.com/FCBayernEN/status/619847578579017728">July 11, 2015</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Rummenigge?src=hash">#Rummenigge</a>: "My colleagues at <a href="https://twitter.com/ManUtd">@ManUtd</a> have been in touch. We've reached an agreement over a transfer." <a href="http://t.co/1Ck0gUhEv7">pic.twitter.com/1Ck0gUhEv7</a></p>— FC Bayern English (@FCBayernEN) <a href="https://twitter.com/FCBayernEN/status/619848257552916480">July 11, 2015</a></blockquote>
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Re: US vs Haiti: --- you guys are the experts so I'm asking with humility --- I thought that the team looked like it had only four or five players out there who looked high-quality functional [Dempsey and Bradley and Gonzalez and Johansson I think were the names that spring to mind; I have probably spelled them wrong.] The defense looked slow. The offense seemed to vitally need Zardes, and Altidore looked terrible at least half the time [almost a mirror of the Women needing to bench Abby to get more attack.] Rather disturbingly horrible giveaways in the midfield areas by several players not named Bradley. Is this even remotely accurate? And can we hope for a turnaround, and how?

Secondly, in this I have no clue: how does Dempsey stack up with the elite strikers/ attack players of the world? I know that Messi seems to be on another level of reality, but where does Dempsey fall? The guy has some of the greatest "glide" speed and get-something-done-when-he-gets-there that I've seen in this new sports-watching interest I've acquired.
 
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Re: US vs Haiti: --- you guys are the experts so I'm asking with humility --- I thought that the team looked like it had only four or five players out there who looked high-quality functional [Dempsey and Bradley and Gonzalez and Johansson I think were the names that spring to mind; I have probably spelled them wrong.] The defense looked slow. The offense seemed to vitally need Zardes, and Altidore looked terrible at least half the time [almost a mirror of the Women needing to bench Abby to get more attack.] Rather disturbingly horrible giveaways in the midfield areas by several players not named Bradley. Is this even remotely accurate? And can we hope for a turnaround, and how?

Secondly, in this I have no clue: how does Dempsey stack up with the elite strikers/ attack players of the world? I know that Messi seems to be on another level of reality, but where does Dempsey fall? The guy has some of the greatest "glide" speed and get-something-done-when-he-gets-there that I've seen in this new sports-watching interest I've acquired.

I will give this a shot and hopefully it makes a bit of sense.

The lineup we had last night was fairly experimental and would be considered a B or C squad. A good mix of rookies with few caps getting exposure against international teams and veterans prepping for the next four year tournament cycle. The formation was one Klinnsman likes to use though he will and does change it as needed.

Re the personnel....you are correct that Dempsey and Bradley are our most talented vets, they may have one more World Cup cycle in them but they are in top form above others on the squad right now. Johannsen is young and still developing chemistry with Bradley and Dempsey. I expect him to be a major cog moving forward because jozy has obviouly lost his way since Brazil. I am not sure what happened but he was playing amazing before blowing his hamstring in the 1st game and I have not seen him play as well since.

Mix Diskerud had the talent to be as good as Clint and Michael but he was used in an unfamiliar role for this tournament. I think Kinsman is covering his rear in case Bradley or Beckerman gets hurt or is otherwise unavailable for international duty moving forward (ie developing players that can play multiple roles not just positions). Likewise Zusi had a great cycle last WC but is not in great form now. Hopefully that changes.

Much of what we saw last night from the backline was merely no chemistry. That lineup has not played together for any meaningful amount of time. Ream has been in great form for his club team and Omar is probably our best center back. Evans and Garza are on the fringes for team selection moving forward and I think they either pick it up soon or we dont see much of them moving forward. I honestly have not seen anything from Garza to warrant much celebration but he was Cap-tied to the national team last night so Klinsman must want him around.

Guzan has been our Gk in waiting and he will most likely be our guy for the next two cycles.

Re Dempsey... yes he is our most skilled veteran and technically gifted player that I have seen play. Compared to other world talents its hard to rate but on a scale to 100 with messi and Ronaldo at 100, I would put him at about 82. He did very well in the toughest and elite league in the world for several years. If there is a ceiling for US field playerscin the international arena I would say he set it.
 
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Cack nailed it (sun shinning on a dogs ass and all that...) Omar and Brooks makes one of if not the best center national team combos ever IMO... Have to play them together... The rest of the back has and will continue to be troublesome...

In terms turning it around, my only real hope is they pull what the women did, in that Kiln is using the group stage to experiment, he stated pretty clearly he wouldn't, but whatever, and once the knockout stage begins they'll focus on their core gameplan with their best lineup... I, as omm noted, am starting to wonder if that lineup does not include Altidore...
 

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I will give this a shot and hopefully it makes a bit of sense.

The lineup we had last night was fairly experimental and would be considered a B or C squad. A good mix of rookies with few caps getting exposure against international teams and veterans prepping for the next four year tournament cycle. The formation was one Klinnsman likes to use though he will and does change it as needed.

Re the personnel....you are correct that Dempsey and Bradley are our most talented vets, they may have one more World Cup cycle in them but they are in top form above others on the squad right now. Johannsen is young and still developing chemistry with Bradley and Dempsey. I expect him to be a major cog moving forward because jozy has obviouly lost his way since Brazil. I am not sure what happened but he was playing amazing before blowing his hamstring in the 1st game and I have not seen him play as well since.

Mix Diskerud had the talent to be as good as Clint and Michael but he was used in an unfamiliar role for this tournament. I think Kinsman is covering his rear in case Bradley or Beckerman gets hurt or is otherwise unavailable for international duty moving forward (ie developing players that can play multiple roles not just positions). Likewise Zusi had a great cycle last WC but is not in great form now. Hopefully that changes.

Much of what we saw last night from the backline was merely no chemistry. That lineup has not played together for any meaningful amount of time. Ream has been in great form for his club team and Omar is probably our best center back. Evans and Garza are on the fringes for team selection moving forward and I think they either pick it up soon or we dont see much of them moving forward. I honestly have not seen anything from Garza to warrant much celebration but he was Cap-tied to the national team last night so Klinsman must want him around.

Guzan has been our Gk in waiting and he will most likely be our guy for the next two cycles.

Re Dempsey... yes he is our most skilled veteran and technically gifted player that I have seen play. Compared to other world talents its hard to rate but on a scale to 100 with messi and Ronaldo at 100, I would put him at about 82. He did very well in the toughest and elite league in the world for several years. If there is a ceiling for US field playerscin the international arena I would say he set it.

Love your overall assessment, but for some reason, I cannot get behind Mix. I have this discussion with my friends all the time. He is a nice stop gap and can fill in, but I do not rate him as highly as most. IMO
 

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OMM kind of asked similar things, and Cack kind of touched on it, but I wanted to bring this from the Haiti game thread to pose to you soccer gurus:

That was ugly.

I'm relatively new to really paying attention to the USMNT, but I have two questions:

1. Why is Altidore so hyped at all times? In all the games I've seen, he's never made a "wow" play/finish.

2. Zardes has been an animal in that spot for three straight games now. Will he get the go-ahead to be *the* guy over Altidore, or is he better as a sub?

Soccer experts, tell me what I'm missing. I'm really trying to learn lol, but this Altidore stuff perplexes me.
 
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OMM kind of asked similar things, and Cack kind of touched on it, but I wanted to bring this from the Haiti game thread to pose to you soccer gurus:

He had great year in the Dutch league a few seasons back. Like Suarez good. He transferred to the BPL and struggled. Then he got real hot heading into the WC in Brazil but blew his hammy and has since struggled to get back to where he was. I have no explanation why. He has been playing regularly....
 

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In terms of Altidore v Zardes they play different positions, Zardes is mainly an attacking midfielder who can play up front or even play defensive mid ( not his strength but he has done it)... Altidore can only play striker, his strength is his his shot and quite literally his strength, when you see you getting pushed off the ball or his powerful shots not finding their mark, he becomes a liability real quick.
 

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Wearing my Omar Gonzalez high school jersey to dinner today, that should change the team's mojo....
 
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