You just called kissme an idiot. That's all she has been saying. Wake up dude and read what she's written.
Bogs, you're a smart guy. Much smarter than me. I cannot believe you've read through this thread and believe what you just wrote. THAT'S ALL THAT KISSME HAS BEEN SAYING!!! "Denard sucks sucks sucks." "He doesn't have the upper hand on us" (even though he's undefeated against us.)" And much more more. Sorry, but those things are completely foolish! Who is twisting things? Seriously bogs, now you're just making sh!t up, and it's embarrassing to you. I've gone through each and every one of her lines and your lines and responded to each line. I haven't twisted crap. Ridiculous. Those are HER quotes, and your quotes. She has absolutely said those things about Denard. Open your eyes man, damn.
The game plan was to let Denard run AND throw all over us??? You really believe that? OK, no use talking football with you anymore then.
And UM fans wasn't what I was talking about, and you directly quoted me. Stay on point. You're arguing something no one is talking about.
Dude, WTF are you talking about??? I'm not defending them. Never once have I even mentioned that. Read closely. My entire point of this whole thread is that Denard is someone we should be concerned about, and it's foolish to think otherwise given the past 2 years. THAT IS ALL. Again, for the love of God, just follow along and stop 'twisting' things and adding non-relevant things to make your non-argument look better.
Nope, not true. Go read kissme statements and all the crap she's talked. You'll sound much smarter and you'll stop sticking your foot in the your mouth in the process.
(Can't believe you sucked me in again, but that last post was filled with so many fallacies I just couldn't help myself.)
And one more time...I THINK ND WILL WIN THE GAME.
Now we are getting to the fact that we are on the same side. Like I have said before, it takes us a while.
And this morning I did have a house full of kids getting ready for school. So I didn't have the time to attend adequately.
I read through the posts where KissMe made her points. The suck,suck,suck, part came after she wasn't listened too. I get kind of tired of it too. I mean I don't think my points are that poorly communicated.
All I can see her railing against is the attitude that Denard is the second coming, and that Michigan certainly will win. Since Bama, my Michigan fan friends have been oddly silent. Two of them cannot even talk football at all. The level has toned down. On this site there are still three or four posters who put ND down at every turn, and you have warned them; I have read it. There are a couple more that just parrott everything they hear; I call them the Sky is Falling Crowd. You know who they are too.
If you had a problem with what I said, feel free to ask for a clarification. Two years ago the coaching staff said, and this is almost a quote,
they were going to do nothing to stop Denard except penetrate their line, one yard deep. Here then is my logic: With a record setting day, it wasn't enough to secure a win before the final drive. And that was only because we squandered a drive in the first half with a redzone interception of an inexperience quarterback that many have said shouldn't even have played at ND. AND with our starting quarterback out of play for half the game! So, Denard had a record setting day, and that wasn't what beat us. People on this thread undersand that logic. Someone said that if we have to rely on EG for 300 against Purdue, it will be bad. It will mean we have nothing else working for us. Same thing with Michigan. At that level Cam Newton is the only player I have seen that can carry a team on his back, far enough.
I will say it more plainly. Since we beat down Michigan four years ago, the games outcome has been a result of our team's poor play more than a good Michigan team winning. That is gone now. We are finally hungry, (it seems.) We are in much better shape and have overcome the
Weis conditioning program. The culture is different. I pitty anyone who comes in our house expecting an easy day this year. We have twice as many players that can play in our defensive front seven this year, as in any previous year, (within the scope of this conversation) and all of them are in better condition. And we will be able to set, and play the edge this year.
Use your eyes. Stephon ran 77 yards on Saturday, and he wasn't even badly winded. He was in better shape than the Navy defenders he beat to the endzone. Last, year, we had a good plan, (Diaco's second year adjustments) and we were holding our own. Then midway through the third quarter our linemen started to tire. Two minutes into the fourth they were pretty gassed. Why? Because the played two gap for 3/4 of their snaps. Try it some time. I did when I played and it was a beach. A defender gives up every one of his natural advantages in stopping a play, playing two gap. It is all muscle and will power. Please note that none of the freshman got in for Michigan because two coaches said we(they) couldn't trust them to play their positions correctly.
Should the cornerbacks have turned their backs? No. But the breakdown that cost the game last year was the d-line running out of gas. And some problems setting the edge as one of our smarter posters mentioned. Let's face it, we really lost it three years in a row. Nowhere was the cost of three unsuccessful coaches in a row, cementing a culture that did not allow for a return to winning more evident than against Michigan. Against Stanford, we may just not have had the horses. SC is SC and we have split with them. But Michigan, from Weis' final year to last, has been very fortunate to play us in this state, moreso than they have dominated anything.
Back to Kissme. I think she has been a great poster; don't you? Most of the time she is rock solid. So what? She made one set of comments and was jumped on. I feel like she is a far cry from some posters who trot the same stuff out time after time. It would be different if plenty of respected posters hadn't said the same kind of things, (too bad she wasn't asked for clarification before the frustration level built to boiling.)
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